Why Real Estate Wealth Is About Family, Purpose, & Relationships with Dominic Pavell

Dominic Pavell (00:00)
Don’t quit. There’s inspiration. There’s inspiration from anywhere. I’m actually doing this project not for myself. I’m thinking about my family. I have two kids. I have a son and a daughter. My son’s 21 now. He’s getting ready to finish school. My daughter’s 13. And my grandfather was probably my biggest mentor. And he built a business.

Quentin (00:01)
Cool.

Dominic Pavell (00:23)
and uh… he ended up selling it none of his kids my mom and my two uncles they never wanted to get into the business my mom did actually but he was he was an old school guy didn’t think that you know a woman could run a business and i usually you little chauvinist back then day but but it what what he always taught me though was built for your family uh… so and he regrets he told me you know towards the end he he lived he was ninety four years old that he should have let my mom take over the business and run it

you he regretted selling a may great money made a ton of money on the product of the planet’s on his business but uh… built something for your family is what he always said you know and that’s that’s where i’m at right now and it’s you know it’s the it’s the inspiration my kids give me the inspiration to do that i’m not gonna quit until i achieve my goal whatever whatever it takes uh… and i think that teaches my kids a great lesson you know whatever your passion is go for it

Quentin (01:00)
Yeah.

Hello everyone. Welcome to the Real Estate Pros

podcast. I am your host Q Edmonds and I’m excited to be here today. Have another fantastic guest. 20 years of experience, experience in the multifamily space, single family space, single family rental. So we’re to talk a lot about real estate, but also you’re doing a little transition as well. So I’m going be excited for you to learn about that. think it’s outlook, it’s innovation is absolutely incredible.

Dominic Pavell (03:04)
.

Quentin (03:18)
And so I can’t wait for us to just get submerged into his world. And so I want to take time to introduce you all to Mr. Dominic Pavell. Did I do a minute, did I do good with that last name? All right. Listen, in my head, I’m going here and I’m like playing it in my head. So I’m glad it came out well. But so listen, I’m glad you’re here, man. How you feeling today?

Dominic Pavell (03:28)
Hello. Yeah, that’s great. Strong strong.

All right. All right.

Yeah,

I’m doing great man. I’m doing great. Thanks for this opportunity. Yeah.

Quentin (03:44)
no, absolutely my friend. And so listen,

I am the type. I like to dive right in, right? So I would love for you to tell the people what’s your main focus these days. If you don’t mind, give us a little origin story, kind of how you got into this space, where you are now. And then man, tell us what part of the world you’re in as well. Cause people love to know that, know, geographically where you are. So what’s your up to, your origin story and where you are. Mr. Dominic, you have the floor, man.

Dominic Pavell (03:48)
Yeah, let’s go.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

⁓ thank you. I’m in Chicago, Northwest suburbs of Chicago, Illinois. So my real estate experience, know, for the last 20 years, I was in the multifamily condo conversions in the early 2000s before the crash. And then after that crash, I got into the leasing and small investment of those condos because the, you know, the

the owners were buying you know was with the subprime market at the time the owners were buying all these apartments they could buy as many as they could want it was zero down and they were and then they were like well I you know I can’t flip them now so I I need to cover the expenses cover the mortgage so we got into the that’s how I got into the the rental aspect of it and ⁓ and then kinda grew from there worked for a couple small multifamily businesses and then after about five years

Quentin (04:43)
Thank you.

Dominic Pavell (04:57)
I to take my own little step into the investment world, raise a small amount of money and started buying single family homes, started buying fourplexes and converting them. Actually, I bought an old bar marina, a small marina, and converted that into five apartments with a single family home on waterfront on the chain of lakes.

in say know it’s built a nice little portfolio up single-family homes in and rental apartment buildings and in about two thousand actually read around two thousand idea decided to go after my passion projects like liquidated my apartments and started the process of wanting to build a ground up multi-sport facility and house you know basketball baseball

turf field, turf football fields for soccer, softball and volleyball. And then, you know, just kind of been slow in the last year or so just in really just getting the ground running and with raising the capital and getting the financing. So, you know, at first I was trying to keep it small then as you network and as you know, everyone’s like, well, you know, $1 million or $2 million doesn’t.

doesn’t really liquid you know doesn’t really get us excited i’m like all great like what what you know what is it what is it takes i had to you know go back in and put pen to paper and and and figure the budget out in you know so now i think i’ve hit my you know my sweet spot where it’s going to be about a twenty million dollar project looking you know looking for a three and a half million dollar capital raise a guy like you know getting the financing it’s funny

any bank i can talk to you know and i’m a veteran you know i was in the army for ten years before my previous life and ⁓ any bank will say you really you raise thirty percent will lend you the money that that it doesn’t matter so that’s right kinda you know kind of been and i just want to make sure everything got my eyes dotted my t’s crossed in ⁓ and and make sure everyone it’s a win-win for everybody

Quentin (07:45)
Thank you, sir. Thank you for taking me on a journey, man. Let me know where you are, kind of how you got there. I appreciate it. And as you was talking, man, I was actively listening. I’m writing things down as you talk. So I’m going to kind of give a quick summary, then I’m going to make a statement and ask you a question. All right? And so, you know, started out in the multi-family condo kind of conversion space, got into rental, started buying single family home.

Dominic Pavell (07:48)
Yeah. Yeah.

No, thank you.

Sure.

Quentin (08:12)
started converting some of them into duplexes. And then you built out a nice portfolio of single family homes, apartments. You didn’t mention that at end, you was in the army for 10 years. And then, you went after your passion project, which was the sports complexes. And now, man, you hit your sweet spot. 20 million is kind of where you need to raise. And you are here. You’re here doing what you do. You’re figuring things out. And so I love it, man, because

Dominic Pavell (08:23)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Quentin (08:41)
Mr. Dominic, I have a statement where I say destiny has no wasted moments, right? Man and Woman what we do in life, the moments are building to momentum to where we are now. And we’re borrowing from the moments. We borrow from the success, the loss, the lessons, and we’re sure about who we are because we have built up the moments to where we are. So I would love to know, man, throughout the journey, get into this passion project, get into this space where you’re at, what have you learned about yourself?

Have you learned resilience, discipline, innovation? Like what is these moments? What has the journey taught you about you?

Dominic Pavell (09:15)
Don’t quit. There’s inspiration. There’s inspiration from anywhere. I’m actually doing this project not for myself. I’m thinking about my family. I have two kids. I have a son and a daughter. My son’s 21 now. He’s getting ready to finish school. My daughter’s 13. And my grandfather was probably my biggest mentor. And he built a business.

Quentin (09:17)
Cool.

Dominic Pavell (09:39)
and uh… he ended up selling it none of his kids my mom and my two uncles they never wanted to get into the business my mom did actually but he was he was an old school guy didn’t think that you know a woman could run a business and i usually you little chauvinist back then day but but it what what he always taught me though was built for your family uh… so and he regrets he told me you know towards the end he he lived he was ninety four years old that he should have let my mom take over the business and run it

you he regretted selling a may great money made a ton of money on the product of the planet’s on his business but uh… built something for your family is what he always said you know and that’s that’s where i’m at right now and it’s you know it’s the it’s the inspiration my kids give me the inspiration to do that i’m not gonna quit until i achieve my goal whatever whatever it takes uh… and i think that teaches my kids a great lesson you know whatever your passion is go for it

Quentin (10:16)
Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (10:35)
really, really truly go for it. mean, you’re doing your podcast, you’re doing a great podcast here, Quinn, and it’s, you know, that’s what you should do, do what you love. You know, I was in the corporate world and I wasn’t happy. You know, until I went off on myself, by myself and started building my own stuff, I could work with people on my own terms. And that’s what’s what really made me feel better about myself. Is there highs and lows? 100%.

But then you just got to step back and regroup and say, all right, who are you doing this for? And then every time, to me, I always say I’m doing it for my kids. And that’s where it helps me keep on going forward and not quitting.

Quentin (11:10)
Yeah,

yeah. Well, Mr. Dominic, you synthesized a saying that I always say here, when you know who you are, you know what to do. That’s what one of my mentors told me, right? So when you know who you are, you know what your why is. I am building with my kids. I know I can’t be restricted in a certain space. Like, when you are clear about who you are, what’s your why, you know what to do in every situation that you’re in. And so, man, I absolutely love that, sir. Absolutely love that.

Dominic Pavell (11:19)
Mm-hmm.

and

Yeah.

Quentin (11:39)
And so, so grandfather, you know, learned a lot from him. So you have some strategies, obviously some systems built in. One of it is knowing who you are, knowing you built it for your kids. Is there any other strategies that has really helped you kind of where you are now in the space of business?

Dominic Pavell (12:31)
That’s a really good question because to me it’s always changing. You think you might have a strategy and a path and then it takes you down another path. So it’s being able to adapt and understand like, that path wasn’t working, not getting stuck and going down a different path. ⁓ Whether it be the capital raise, whether it be your management style, your communication style, you have to be adaptable.

Quentin (12:48)
Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (12:57)
you know and it’s it’s a work in progress is always going to be a work in progress you’re never gonna perfected ⁓ i think also knowing that no one’s perfect and you’re not perfect you’re never going to be perfect you know and i think that’s kind of my passion when i when i coach i coach basketball also for travel travel basketball company and teaching our kids and he’s the kids i coach are you know sixteen seventeen years old wanting to play in college you know they have the grandiose

you know idea of being a division one basketball player but just know your passion if this is your passion just go for it doesn’t matter the outcome the outcome is you know not everyone’s a division one basketball player there’s you know there’s only what is it fifteen on a team three hundred schools that’s forty five hundred kids there’s only others in there’s you know there’s three hundred thousand high schools with you know it’s a you just do the math but if you love the game

And you want to, and your goal overall goes to be whatever professional it is, a nurse, a doctor, you know, a businessman, use that as your, as your feel to, go through your why, to figure out your why. I mean, I just took notes, as you mentioned that to figure out your why. I’m going to, in my next practice tomorrow night, I’m going to ask the girls that. Um, yeah, no, a hundred percent, because you need to know your why. You know, right now, my why is my kids.

Quentin (14:05)
Woo!

Dominic Pavell (14:12)
100 % no matter the real estate, you know, whatever it is you’re looking at or trying to do. What is your, what is your why? What is your real truly? What is your why? Not, can’t be the project. can’t be the building. It’s gotta be something else. It’s gotta be your family. It’s gotta be a loved one. It’s gotta be, it’s gotta be something with a purpose. ⁓ cause one thing I have learned to get, know, not to dive back when I was in the real estate business.

Quentin (14:30)
Yeah. Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (14:36)
you i worked for a small company we closed at the time the largest real estate transaction in illinois we were a broker networking and you know so we close this deal and i think you know half a million dollars on that one deal as a broker so you can you know anyone is paying attention to configure it out it was a large it was a large transaction ⁓

Quentin (14:42)
Mmm.

Right, right, You got a half mil? Yeah, yeah. huh.

Dominic Pavell (14:59)
Um, and it

should have been more actually fun thing is that the, the purchaser, was a, it was a, it was a sales lead, it was a sales lease back. Right. So two fortune 500 companies, one was real estate, one was technology and it was a sale lease back. And the, the real estate company owner called me, uh, called me and my partner and was like, look, we got to drop your commission. Cause there was originally normal, normal real estate commission 2%, you know,

Quentin (15:08)
Mm.

Dominic Pavell (15:27)
2 of commission, you know, that was the normal real estate. He goes, I just, you guys did a phenomenal job. I can’t. And he literally said this. goes, I can’t make you guys millionaires on your first transaction. He told us that he’s like, and this was at the closing table. Closing was at one o’clock. He calls us at 10 AM. He was like, look, dude, you’re changing this or we’re not going to close. And you’re like, well, I want it to win, win because he had other projects. I’m like, yeah, whatever.

But that experience taught me it can’t be about money. It can’t be about money. Your why has to be more something else. I’d rather build generational wealth for my family. And that’s my why.

Quentin (16:04)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Well listen, I want to ask you this flat out. know you, I kind of can imagine what your answer going to be, but I still want to ask it. What’s your next real goal? Like, what are you looking to solve a scale next?

Dominic Pavell (16:58)
My next real goal, honestly, is to take this company public. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. But the lesson, the message behind it is what’s going to be important. That’s just the means to the end of the business. I just learned this. I coached basketball for 20 years, played when I was in high school, played when I was in the Army.

Quentin (17:03)
Got you. Okay. Yeah. I’m glad I asked because I didn’t hear you say this. This is good. That’s wow. Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (17:23)
played on the scout team in college. Basketball is my favorite sport. was better at baseball, but basketball is my favorite sport. Did you, did you know that who, so who is the, who is the inventor of basketball?

Quentin (17:35)
Is it Naismith? Naismith am I saying that right? Naismith. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

Dominic Pavell (17:36)
Naismith yeah, James Naismith. Yeah,

and not to get too political, but do you know James Naismith invented basketball as a ministry to get the order? Yeah, look it up. Yes. yeah, it started in the YMCA.

Quentin (17:45)
No! ⁓ you’re talking my language!

⁓

that makes all the sense in the world. Yes! What?

Dominic Pavell (17:54)
Yeah, yes. So,

so when I talk about my businesses and stuff like that, it’s still going to have a message of, you know, of the Lord. ⁓ So, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah. So that’s what in the grand scheme of things I see, you know, I tell, you know, I was proud of my son. We didn’t really, you know, I’m a Catholic kid growing up, went to Catholic school and everything, but we didn’t really force it on our, on our children. Like they were baptized.

Quentin (18:02)
Come on. What the hell you talking about? You talking my language? Yeah, man.

Gotcha.

Dominic Pavell (18:20)
and counting confirmed and stuff like that but you know my son started going to church with with with this just his roommates from college and everything and just did it on their own that’s how i i i i view it and so you know when i coach and i talk to the kids i don’t you know i’m not forcing it down there and say you know you gotta breathe in the lord you gotta do this but you know he has a plan for you so you just have to trust his plan it’s gonna come to the ups and downs and highs and lows

and you just have to work through it and he’ll guide you along the way. So that’s kind of, know, as I went through this process and it’s been, you know, three or four years, I’ve really been going down this road of trying to build this facility. I just know that he has a plan and it’s, you know, I’m going to get there eventually. It’s going to be tough. It’s going to be hard, but, but he’s got his, I know he’s got his hand on me.

Quentin (18:47)
Yes.

Yeah. Nah, man. Thank you, man. Thank you for that input. I fell in, basketball is my number one sport. I love basketball. I fell in love with basketball, playing basketball at a Christian school, Christian high school. And that’s, that’s when I fell in love with basketball. It taught me so many just life learned lessons. And then I, you know, I stand with you, man. I always, well, not always, but a lot of times I’ll say this scripture on air, you know.

Dominic Pavell (19:10)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Quentin (19:31)
that we make our plans, but the Lord, he determines our steps. Right? And so, you know, he, he, he’s in charge of the outcome, but we partner with him. We, we work like everything is on us, but we pray like everything’s on him. Right? We put our hands in the cloud, but we know that the outcome, determines the outcome. But I love how it’s, it’s to you, it’s your, it’s, the passion. It’s like all you feel like he’s selling you do is the purpose of it all. And I’m with you, man. I tell people all the time, I do this, my,

My purpose is to unite my passions through storytelling. My purpose is, God put it on my heart to unite people with other people, to unite people with themselves. And so just to hear basketball, I started out as a ministry, I never knew that. And I’m glad you mentioned that. That means a lot to me. So yeah, yeah, yeah. So man, I love your perspective, you two kids, you building generational wealth. Talk about your grandparents.

Dominic Pavell (20:03)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Quentin (20:24)
partnering up with people, trying fundraising, you’re coaching. So I’ma love asking you this question. You hear the word relationship, what comes to mind to you?

Dominic Pavell (20:33)
It’s a great question. And sometimes I’m at fault because I value the relationship so much. But my buddy who started the basketball company who I work with, a lot of people always say like, how are your teams so good? Right? And we got kids and we just know how to build relationships with them. And it’s trust, it’s no matter what it is.

Quentin (20:48)
Yeah.

Yep.

Dominic Pavell (20:55)
building and maintaining relationships. I coach 20 years now. I got kids that are in their 30s, know, having two or three kids and, you know, send them text messages and they’ll send me messages back and, know, say, hey coach, thank you. And that’s what it’s all about. You know, that’s the true wealth. And whatever you do is the relationships that you have. You know, I don’t know my win-loss record. swear to God, I coach probably 1500 games.

Quentin (21:08)
Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Right, right, right.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (21:23)
You I know I’ve won more for sure,

but you know what, but I got 30 dudes that went to college. got another 20 or 30 girls that, know, in the last five years that, that I’ve been coached that have gone on to college. you know, I have a girl that I coached my first girls team ever. She’s a college coach now and she, she wants me to be her assistant. Like, you know, and that’s just maintaining relationships. When you, when you meet somebody, you have to invest in them.

⁓ no matter what it is not if it’s not basketball outside of basketball always following up with them always sending congratulations always sending them thank yous and and highs and just hello and how are you doing that’s way more important than anyone’s win-loss record or whatever project you’re working on in business it’s the relationships you build with the individuals you know and so to my fault sometimes i i need to cut them short and i i’m just too loyal i’m too loyal of an individual

Quentin (22:13)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (22:15)
⁓

to you know but there’s been a couple of that cuts still but there’s been a couple of still got cut but you know but it’s okay you know anything things happen for for a reason you know guy again got so got your hand on place on your on your shoulder so ⁓ but that you know the overall well-being response ⁓ relationships is what’s really important

and believing in the individual even when they don’t believe in themselves and they know they’ll believe in you it’s nothing there’s nothing better no more better feeling than having eight nine ten twelve you know in i float around and coach a helpful coach bunch of teams so you can you know we got two hundred kids in our program two hundred kids i’ll come up to you and say coach i need help with this or i need help with that there’s no better feeling in the world than having someone just asking for help

Quentin (22:57)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I started laughing when you started mentioning your win-loss record. You said you don’t know it. Because literally, as you were saying that, I was saying in my head, I’m actually undefeated as a coach. I’ve learned some coaching, I’m undefeated. Here’s the thing, Mr. Dominic, only coach two games. I used to coach our alumni games. So like when the alumni would come back and play the current team.

Dominic Pavell (23:13)
⁓ Okay.

Quentin (23:20)
I coach two of those and we won two. that’s how I do my record. ⁓

Dominic Pavell (23:20)
Yeah.

There you go. It’s,

it’s funny you say that in seventh grade I got cut from the basketball team, but I should have made the team. was all my friends, you know, and I’m still friends with now. They still say that, but I was, I’m from Chicago and my mom remarried. So we had moved to North Carolina and this is kind of where it built. I built my passion for basketball. There was no Dominics in, North Carolina. And, and so the coach.

Quentin (23:29)
⁓ wow.

Wow, yeah,

Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (23:51)
You know, he wasn’t picking the little Italian kid. It’s okay. That’s fine. So no, but I say that it’s cause then the wrestling coach, came to me and said, Hey, we need you to wrestle. need, you know, numbers. I was like, I never wrestled. Like, so he’s like, so we came and wrestled. I wrestled. And at the time I was in the 98 pound weight class. yeah. And, and, so I won the first man I won the wrestle off in our, in our, in our match.

Quentin (24:03)
Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (24:16)
and ⁓ i go rest of the first school met me i would like to get right indicated in the first period you know i’m feeling great and the next week the rest of the the one kid that we have and i’m friends with them today he was a state champ like in seventh grade but he he was all but he was like a hundred and he was in the hundred five-pound class and they had another hundred five-pounder was good so the coach had him lose weight

Quentin (24:20)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (24:42)
cut weight to go to my class because I problems a first year wrestler and so he beat me you know in the wrestle off he beat me and I was like okay you know whatever but I guess so I that was I you know I finished out the year I never got to the varsity match I always wrestled the you know the lower level whatever did fine and but yeah I’ll say at the top level wrestling in seventh grade I’m 1-0 I’m 1-0 that’s it

Quentin (24:45)
Yeah, wow.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Let’s go. Let’s go. Let’s

go. I love it, man. I love it. Yeah, like I said, basketball meant so much to me. I started, I was varsity all my high school career, but I started 10th grade and 11th grade. Now, Mr. Dominic, I’m a good five, nine, five, 10 in high school, all of 245 pounds. So I was like the point forward, know, I love Charles Barkley. That’s who I modeled my game.

Dominic Pavell (25:12)
Ha ha ha ha!

wow.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah,

that’s my guy.

Quentin (25:36)
Yeah, right. That one of my favorites. But come my senior year, we had a young man that was growing to his own. His name was TJ. Grew into a 6’9 master, drop step, dunking on people. So I wasn’t starting anymore. And I was six man coming off the bench. So the way our league was designed, the two top teams of the league, their whole starters went to the All-Star game. So our whole starting five was going to the All-Star game.

Dominic Pavell (25:50)
Buh-Duh-Duh.

Quentin (26:01)
but I had two of our guys fake six so I could play in the All-Star game. It was from the leg. Yeah, it was just like, right! Right! That’s the relationships. And listen, our whole squad scored in the All-Star game. I scored one point off a free throw, but we all scored, you know? But I’m just to your point, man. Like you said, we developed these relationships over the years. I’m so extremely tight.

Dominic Pavell (26:05)
But see, that’s the relationships. That’s the relationship. Yeah.

No.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Quentin (26:25)
with every guy from the basketball team. we talking what, 20 years, 25 years now? So yeah, so I’ll just emphasize when you talk about relationship, it’s so important. And like you said, some friends are for a season, some of them are for a lifetime, but you just slide and you build your boundaries around what works for you.

Dominic Pavell (26:29)
Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Quentin (26:47)
Man, brother, I appreciate you, man. This is a great conversation, sir. Listen, if someone wanted to reach out to you, connect with you, collaborate with you, learn more about what you’re doing, how can they get in contact with you,

Dominic Pavell (26:49)
Yes. Yeah.

Yeah.

⁓ It was so my my email address is is Dominic D O M I N I C underscore Pavell P as in Peter A V as in Victor E-L-L at and then it’s sports S-P-O-R T-S T-E-R-Z U-S-A

Yeah, that’s my email address. My phone number is 847-224-1174. Text me. Text me first. I’m terrible at online. If I don’t have your name in my contact, I ain’t answering. But you you text me to Quentin. it’s yeah. Yeah, that’s you know, that’s how you can get a contact. I do a podcast. It’s going to it’s actually my first episode is going to be this week. Same thing. Just talking sports and then talking business. You know what kind of business you’re doing. It’s open to anyone.

Quentin (27:31)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ Yeah.

Dominic Pavell (27:47)
And we’re just going to have conversation. That’s all we’re we’re doing right now. This is a great format when you’re doing a great job.

Quentin (27:53)
Mr. Dominic man, I appreciate you, sir. Let me say three things to you sincerely, One, thank you for your time because I know, I mean, yes, it’s a podcast, but still you did not have the gracious with your time. Like I can’t do this by myself. This episode, I couldn’t be just me, right? So I thank you for your time, valuable time, and I appreciate it. Secondly, man, thank you for your story. Thank you for your narrative. I believe stories have a way of planting seeds in people. We may never see the growth.

but you put a seed there and that seed can grow at any given time. So I really believe you planted seeds that’s gonna really possibly change somebody’s life. And that’s not how probably, but that’s just how these things work. They hear something and it sparks something. And then before you know it, things start to change. So, man, thank you for your mindset, sir. The way you think and bringing that mindset to this platform. I appreciate you being here,

Dominic Pavell (28:27)
Thank you. Right.

I appreciate you. And remember

that spark, that spark didn’t happen for no reason though. There was a guy that did it.

Quentin (28:46)
Y’all hear it right? Y’all heard the gems. Y’all know what this man putting down. So listen, everything Mr. Dominic mentioned, all his information is in the show notes. So please get in contact with him, but definitely make sure you’re subscribed here. Cause I promise you, we’re going to continue to bring up amazing people just like Mr. Dominic. So sir, I say thank you again for being here. Appreciate you so much. ⁓

Dominic Pavell (28:47)
Yeah.

Thank you very much. Don’t forget to look up, don’t forget to look up Naismith

Ministry. Yeah. All right. you, sir. Have a blessed day. Okay. Okay.

Quentin (29:11)
You don’t even got to tell me, That’s right up my alley. That’s how I roll. So I appreciate you saying that. I don’t know, absolutely. All right, you too. So tape it. Don’t go nowhere just yet. I want to talk to you. But everybody

else, listen, we going to talk. But listen, y’all have a fantastic day.