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In this episode of the Real Estate Pros Podcast, host Micah Johnson welcomes Christina Suter, a seasoned real estate professional with over three decades of experience. The conversation dives deep into the mindset and purpose behind successful real estate investing. Christina emphasizes the importance of aligning one’s internal values with external actions, suggesting that real estate should be viewed as a tool for achieving a fulfilling life rather than merely a means to financial gain. She shares her journey from starting in real estate at a young age to navigating market cycles and personal growth, highlighting the significance of discernment over judgment in decision-making.

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    Christina Suter (00:00)
    there’s this constant walk.

    of an outer purpose and outer success and an inner purpose and an inner success and getting the two to work together, that’s to me where power is. It’s not about a million dollars or five million dollars. That to me is where the power is.

    Micah Johnson (01:48)
    Hey everyone. Welcome to the Real Estate Pros Podcast. I’m your host, Micah Johnson. And today I’m joined by Christina, who’s been making some serious moves in real estate for about three decades now. Christina, welcome in. Glad to have you.

    Christina Suter (02:01)
    I’m so glad to be invited to the show. We just had this great free conversation. I’m sorry you guys didn’t get to hear it because it was really, really great. We’re like, oh yeah, we agree on that. Oh yeah, we agree on that. That’s really great. What does it mean to really authentically, like 30 years, I’ve been at it for a while. What does it mean to authentically have the grit, the mindset and the basis inside yourself, that sense of purpose and focus?

    Micah Johnson (02:18)
    Mmm.

    Christina Suter (02:25)
    to make your real estate portfolio successful, because it is not an overnight thing. It’s something that takes time, right? ⁓

    Micah Johnson (02:30)
    No.

    It does.

    It’s the ultimate snowball effect if you’ll just keep going long enough. One of the things I love about real estate, and I think I agree, our pre-recording call was awesome. All y’all wish you could have heard it, but we’re going to bring a lot of that good stuff right out of here because what I think our listeners are really going to get value of is the way you approach how it is what you do. And that is very important to come when it comes to real estate. It’s not just

    Christina Suter (02:53)
    Mm-hmm.

    Micah Johnson (02:58)
    what it is that you’re doing, but the whys behind it, how you’re going about it. Is it actually creating the life you want? So let’s dive in on that. For people who may not know you yet, what’s your main focus right now and what markets you’re operating in?

    Christina Suter (03:11)
    Okay. So

    I do a variety of things like a lot of people do. I run two meetings a month. I teach real estate. I have actual students. I am a consultant in real estate and I actively invest both in my own projects, but also I do joint ventures with other people and I’m a GP. So I have all the string of things that I do, but I think what’s most important and the thing that I get the most joy out of personally, and I love real estate investing.

    So not to demote that, is what does it mean? I work with mid to high net worth individuals and families on what it means to use real estate as a tool for getting to your life’s purpose, to living a life that is satisfying and anchored in the purpose and joy you want to be experiencing. Real estate’s a tool, guys. I don’t want to disrespect it, but real estate’s a tool for getting to be able to cultivate and craft.

    a life that you want to be living and the being who do you want to be while you’re living that. It’s an amazing journey because real estate is a journey when you can say it’s about me guiding it and me being the best me I can be. Therefore, I’m satisfied at the end of every day whether that deal worked or not.

    Micah Johnson (04:31)
    Right. And I love that viewpoint of it because it’s the beforehand, it’s the zoomed out part where it’s so easy to jump into real estate for money and strategy tactics and all the things. you could never think about the part you’re talking about and still have a very successful career. However, when you do add this portion in, all of sudden, so much clarity arrives. So much, it releases the rush that you feel in because it’s

    You just want closing days. You just want offers. You just want those parts, but you start to realize how much the in-between matters. Really down to that day-to-day life. I actually, one, living a life I enjoy, and am I doing the things that will keep creating that life?

    Christina Suter (06:03)
    Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it’s in some ways it’s a dual planning because I’m a financial advisor, right? So it’s we’re planning all about planning and I’m a geek. Truth is I’m a geek. Okay. So I love geeks. I love geeks. I’m a total geek. Right. Because it’s, but it’s about planning. Like how do I want to live? And then how does my money grow? So I get there. Right. So there’s the planning on both sides. Like you asked me a question, which I think I’ll get to later about like, well, what’s 2026, right? I don’t mean to hijack your flow and I apologize.

    Micah Johnson (06:11)
    Hahaha!

    Go

    ahead.

    Christina Suter (06:31)
    There’s this external focus and internal focus, right? Like all of life, right? There’s an external focus and an internal focus. And I just, you I won’t answer the question because I think you have a plan for later. the point being that if you’re really highlighting what it is I’m passionate about and what it is that I bring to people and what it is that is cultivated in my community and people who want to work with me and people who want to talk to me and people like, you know, the people who like what I’m up to is

    there’s this constant walk.

    of an outer purpose and outer success and an inner purpose and an inner success and getting the two to work together, that’s to me where power is. It’s not about a million dollars or five million dollars. That to me is where the power is.

    Micah Johnson (07:15)
    It’s true alignment is what’s happening. Like you’re getting your internal world aligned with your external world. And at that point, the force to life goes away. And actually then for me, when I was shifting in that mode of my own life, the pressure went away, that urgency, like anything that happened, it wasn’t this reaction to solve the problem, it was actually your ability to just sit with it for a second, see it for what it was and create massive amounts of space to be like, okay, now what?

    how does this line up with what I’m trying to do? Is it getting me closer or is it taking me further away? And then the next step, right? And it’s constantly, there was a book I read about it called Bumpers, which was by a guy named Nick Peterson, who’s very much about this. Like when you know what you want to do, especially when you’re a high performing person that’s worked hard, earns money, your issue is not typically action. It’s not doing something.

    usually it’s doing too much. You start doing things that aren’t on the path anymore. And that’s what his whole concept’s about. When you can keep your eyes on what you want, then you know what to say no to. And then you can be really honest with yourself and then pivot. Doesn’t mean you say no forever. It just means it’s not right now. One of my favorite quotes is, the right thing at the wrong time is still the wrong thing. But the right thing at the right time, that’s life changing. And it’s…

    Christina Suter (08:31)
    Hey.

    Micah Johnson (08:36)
    It’s that waiting game, but if you don’t have that mindset, if you’re constantly running, you’re not available to see it.

    Christina Suter (08:43)
    Okay. Frickin beautiful. That’s fantastic. That is so well said. Like, you just want to cross three different concepts there. So the first concept in my mind is I use discernment versus judgment. Right? We constantly, in general, we are tutored into being judges. That doesn’t work. That’s stupid. I don’t like that. But we’re tutored into a state of judgment, but we don’t have to live in judgment. We have absolute choice to be able to say, you know,

    Micah Johnson (08:46)
    Yeah

    Hmm.

    Christina Suter (09:12)
    that train is coming right at me. see its headlights. It is coming right for me. I can stand on the tracks and scream and yell and judge the train all day long for being in my bubble away. Or I could just go, maybe I should move five feet over. Maybe I should just walk my, know, walk a couple steps that direction. And the simplicity and the ease when you move the concept of judgment or ego out of the way.

    and say, can truly just discern. And it’ll go so far for me as like, ooh, that pissed me off. Let me put my phone down. I’m gonna wait till I’m not pissed until I’m back in a state of discernment and then let me make a discernment, make a decision.

    Micah Johnson (09:49)
    Mmm.

    Christina Suter (09:56)
    based on all the factors because now it’s not about my ego, it’s not about my pissed and it’s not about my need to be happy or my need to be rich. I’ve had that problem too. I’ve run into that too. I wanted to be super, I have my super fancy story about how I had my super fancy project and how it, know, bit my backside. And all I could do was look back and go, yeah, I wanted to be fancy. So I got into something that didn’t serve me.

    That was why it failed. It didn’t fail because it failed by itself or the economy failed. It failed because I wanted to be fancy. And that was probably a huge growth for me in understanding that judgment versus discernment isn’t just anger, right? It’s wanting to be fancy. It’s looking good. Sometimes it’s even like, my God, what are people going to think of me? Just pure value or identity. You don’t understand this is what I do.

    Micah Johnson (11:10)
    Right?

    Christina Suter (11:22)
    that all those things can be in the way of you being able to just go discernment. And discernment opens the field up like you described so perfectly. Now all of a sudden you’re like, I can just make a decision. Cool. Now I can, is it value add or not? Is it cashflow or not? Is that serve my portfolio or not? And so the state of discernment is incredibly powerful. Go ahead.

    Micah Johnson (11:46)
    And

    it’s just a choice too. It’s available. That’s when you discover that it’s always available. And I was giving a talk a couple of years ago where I used the term, how you feel about how you feel is what’s messing you up. The first one is just information. It’s very important information. That second thing you’re doing, that’s getting you in tons of trouble. And it lines.

    Christina Suter (12:00)
    Yeah.

    Not necessary. ⁓

    Micah Johnson (12:12)
    Right, it lines up with what you’re saying. We’re built to be judges and not discerners. Very much, I like that, I don’t like this, I like this, I don’t like this, good, bad, good, bad. And most of the time, that is a waste of time. Who cares? Who cares if you like it or don’t like it? Does it change what you need to do? Like the train, awesome, you don’t like a train’s coming at you. Does it change it’s about to hit you? No, let’s shift to the side a little bit and then it’ll go by. I love that.

    Christina Suter (12:29)
    Right.

    And it’s actually

    inefficient, like you just described. And so sometimes again, when you’re high performers and you choose, I’m involved in several different business models, as you kind of can guess, when you choose to be in discernment versus being in judgment, you actually get more time and you get more control over your time because you’re just not spending time having the conversation. it’s great high performers to get there.

    Micah Johnson (12:55)
    Mmm.

    Christina Suter (13:05)
    to choose that. It’s hard because we’re usually high performance because of ego. But that’s the thing we have to surrender to actually get to high performance.

    Micah Johnson (13:10)
    Right.

    Christina Suter (13:15)
    is the ego. And to me, the projects are the same way. Like I was talking about that earlier, like outward action, inward action, outward action, inward action. I do outward action on a project. I don’t like the water that’s pouring. Like little I was watching a video yesterday going, there’s water pouring through the floor. Okay, that creates an inward action. There’s an outward action and now I need to do an inward action. I need to make a decision about that water pouring through the floor. So then it’s like, okay, well I can be pissed or I could whatever, right? I can blame.

    So I would actually, and my day is constantly a dance of that all day long and being able to steward inward action. So not to say the same thing again, but it is important to be able to cultivate that because then I think money naturally falls into play.

    Like control over time, control over money naturally falls into play. Now money becomes a representation of your values and not a representation of your identity. And then that creates more of what you are, more of your external life being a representation of your internal choices and values. That’s when I think you have real power over money. It’s when money is a representation of your values.

    Micah Johnson (14:26)
    That is extremely well said because you get those in the wrong order. And it does. You start looking at life different. it’s something I we all are on this learning curve, right? It’s you get it takes skill to get good at being human. That is like my I am obsessed with it. How do I get good at being human? Right. I always if you’re going to be a good human, get good at being human. Right. That’s to me the ultimate goal because I started looking at myself and all these are journals I’ve got about

    Christina Suter (14:43)
    Yes. Yes. Yes.

    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (14:56)
    I have almost four years of every day of the last four years written down. And to me, that’s data. I’m a geek too. like to see without data, everything’s an, it’s an opinion. I want to see what’s actually going on. And then once I started to see that, Hey dude, you’re the one in your own way. This is you doing this. You are causing this, which created the reaction that heavy ego reaction up front of well, but you sit with it for a little second longer. And it’s like, wait a second. Hold on.

    Christina Suter (15:15)
    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (16:06)
    The cycle in my life keeps repeating because I keep doing this. Wait, what happens if I just get out of the way? And over and over again, one of the coaches I was working with, we just call it rule of opposite. that. Most often it’s the opposite of that initial reaction when you’re upfront in personal development. Cause we’ve all we have are adaptations in my opinion, at that point you’re in survival mode and every human has to switch. You’ve got to get to that point where you can have that space. And that’s where.

    My opinion, just like real estate, the access is available to all of us. It’s one of the few things we all can get access to in a sense that can change our life completely. Personal development part, and then leveraging a tool like real estate into creating the life you actually want to live. That’s really possible. And if anything’s the American dream, to me, that’s it. It’s agency. That’s what freedom means to me. Real agency, not some made up thing.

    Christina Suter (17:01)
    and

    Micah Johnson (17:04)
    that it gets tossed around as, but internal, just, all right, I can choose this. And it’s not cause I’m just making it up or doing it for bad reasons or being misinformed. I have a pattern that I live where, okay, information comes in, sit with it, sit with it, sit with it. And the more I’ve done that, the longer I realize action becomes inevitable. It becomes obvious when to take it. If you just keep living it in steps, it’s not like you have to guess or hope or wonder. All of a sudden you’re just there and you’re like, this is,

    What was one thing the day before it wasn’t obvious to do, you just keep living out and the next day it’s like, okay, this is what I’m doing now, which kind of ties back into what you were talking about for 2026, which I wanna dig into, which is that, what do you focus on this year and how is that internal external world that you use to make choices affecting it?

    Christina Suter (17:56)
    All right, so ⁓ external, internal, right? So external world, okay, so we’ve just gone through two years of multifamily getting hammered because of the high interest rates. We’re now starting to lower interest rates. That window is gonna begin to close, just is. It’s just kind of the way the math starts to work. Yes.

    Real estate prices does not always go down when interest rates go up. They have a common cause, which is usually inflation, which can cause real estate to go up. At the same time, interest rates go up because real estate is a commodity and therefore it will appreciate at the same time that inflation is appreciating. But there generally is a break point.

    which we hit in multifamily where multifamily started to go down because it hit the breakpoint where we had too much negative arbitrage on multifamily buildings that were purchased, especially for buildings in 1998, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022. That particular bracket we ended up having way ⁓ negative arbitrage in those buildings. Now those buildings are fragile and they’re coming to market. Not as quickly as I thought though.

    Darn, I was hoping for little faster. They weren’t there. But I’ve specialized in the 5 to 50 market. So I am getting some traction in the 5 to 50 market. And I was able to buy three buildings in the last second half of last year. I think it might have actually been in the last quarter. And then I closed on another one this year so far. So definitely getting some of the traction I’m looking for in that 5 to 50 range.

    Micah Johnson (18:59)
    Yeah.

    Nice.

    Christina Suter (19:21)
    with the investors. So I’m watching the multifamily market and when is it going to close in 2026? Is it going to stay open during 2026? And we can continue to have deals.

    Single family started to go down. Just now I’m seeing in Tulsa and Indianapolis, which is the primary places I invest. I’m starting to see single family is now starting to soften. Florida in particular is also softening. There are other states as well. But the two I invest in is Tulsa and Indianapolis. So now I’ve also doubled down again in buying single families. I do midterm rentals and room shares. Those are the assets I like to purchase and then basically buy a single family four and two and make it either a midterm rental.

    or make it into a boom share, which I will convert into an eight and three or eight and four. Those are my favorite asset classes. That’s my external world focus as far as that. My internal world focus. So I started with years and years ago, I started with a single family of my very own at 17 years old and I owned it and my mom gave it to me and I rented out to my aunt and uncle. Okay, so that’s how I started. Just like pure basic 17 year old going to college don’t know what the heck I’m doing.

    Micah Johnson (20:03)
    Thank

    Yes.

    Christina Suter (20:27)
    Okay, let’s do realistic, So, but then I moved into some other single families and then they highly appreciate it because they’re in California. So then in 2001, I moved into multifamilies in California and then 2000 and then 2004, I was like flipping and I owned in seven different states and man, it was really, I was so smart. Wasn’t I smart? I was so smart. Okay, no, I wasn’t. The truth is the market was going up like gangbusters.

    And I wasn’t as smart as I thought I was. And so in 2008, I was eating crow and dismantling a portfolio I had created. My daughter was born in 2009. So by 2010, 2011, I had sold every single door I had. All of them. Across every state, every place I owned, I sold every door. And I came home and I used that money as a hard money lender to people I knew, know, and trusted because I had been in real estate for a while. And I raised my daughter.

    Micah Johnson (21:10)
    Wow.

    Christina Suter (21:23)
    And so I was home with her and I worked two days a week as a consultant, but I was home with her most of the time because that was my why. Why did I want to invest in real estate? Why did I want to build wealth? I wanted to be a blooming parent. And based on my own childhood stories of my mother being a single mom entrepreneur, right? Being a bit of a latchkey kid. ⁓ Well, definitely a latchkey kid. Let’s put it that way. Definitely a latchkey kid. Mazed by my sister, really, truth be told. Mazed by my sister.

    I wanted to be there to pick up my daughter from school. That was my why. I just wanted to be in her life and not be distracted by the need to earn money. I reorganized my life, is everything was falling apart because my commitment was to be a mom. So I converted everything into hard money lending, worked as a consultant two days a week. And when my daughter hit kindergarten, I was like, okay, I can go back now. I can re-engage again. So I did. you know.

    I personally believe that we sort of have a wisdom greater than ourselves. And that wisdom was saying, yep, now’s the time. Get your ass back out there. I’m like, okay, All right, fine, I’ll go back. I thought I at least had another year or two being a full-time mom, come on. So I got back out there. But really what I discovered over, and then I started doing private equity, right? So I was doing private equity. But in 2026, the thing that I started lining up in 20, I think in 2024, for 2025, 2026, 2027 is,

    Micah Johnson (22:27)
    All right.

    I hear you.

    Christina Suter (22:51)
    I have intentionally and consciously not been a syndicator. I’ve been large and in charge. I’ve owned, I’ve kept control. I’ve had private equity that’s shared the control. But now I understand having seen two cycles, I feel like I can be a syndicator, but on my terms, I don’t want 200 investors, people I barely know trying to ride a cycle up on the three to five year timeline.

    Both cycles I’ve had a chance to look at were based in bad structuring, bad financial structuring of units of some kind, whether it’s negative arbitrage like we saw in this last downturn or whether it was bad credit scores like we saw in the previous downturn and too aggressive lending. And even then 3 % down, 5, 10 % down. Like that’s a setup. So I want to do my own GP deals, which I am doing now. And I want to be able to say, no, no, no, we’re going to do

    five years, 10 years, 15 years, we’re gonna focus on cash flowing properties as close to cash flowing day one as possible. And we’re gonna be able to ride the train of appreciation because appreciation is natural in a commodity compounding product, which is what real estate is. So I wanna have 35 investors. I wanna have 20 investors. I wanna have people I know I can trust.

    Forgive me for being arrogant, but people I know I can trust, people that I know I’m creating a fulfillment on the purpose for them. I become a vehicle that helps them get there. My clients and my students.

    I know intimately what their purpose is, what their goals are, who they want to be, why they want to be there and why they want to cultivate. And I literally have this one client is like, but I want to invest with you. I’m like, that’s really great, but it’s not advantageous for you. See, if you borrow the money in order to put it in my projects, I don’t have a project for you for you to earn enough money to make sure you’re getting a better return than what you have right now. So no, you can’t invest with me right now until I have a product that’s going to give you a higher return than what you have currently. No, that’s

    against my integrity, it’s against my values, it’s against what I stand for. A life of purpose and freedom. That takes, that gets in the way of you having that life. I don’t want that. It would hurt me to know I was doing that. Personal, personal feelings, personal point of view. ⁓ So therefore that’s what I’m creating. So that’s my expansion in 2026. So my outer work is doing more GPs, but my inner work is stop being so selfish.

    Creating create you like I gotta find good deals. I know how to run them I’ve been at this for a while Stop being so selfish share my good deals. Let other people have access let other people Live the life that I want to be living and live it next to me and live it together So we can all get to that final point together faster ⁓ But it took me a long time to learn how I could do it on my own terms in a way that felt integrous and complete That it was about community

    Micah Johnson (25:57)
    Very well said. it seems like a natural point that you arrive at as you keep doing this, real estate’s funny about how it takes you through just life lessons. It’s very much a people business. It’s very much a relationship business. Once you understand how the math works, the rest is only people. You can’t buy a house on, you can’t buy anything on your own. You need a team of people. You need attorneys and lenders and every.

    There’s so many things that you need to have that as you go along, it forces you to start asking yourself those questions. And you can tell the ones that override their own integrity, that override their own purpose, because they’re getting later into their career and they’re burning out. They’re not healthy anymore. They’re not doing those things. And they build a trap, which was originally what they were not trying to do. And that’s what breaks my heart for a lot of entrepreneurs is

    Christina Suter (26:42)
    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (26:53)
    You got into this with the best heart, but along the way, you built it in a way where it trapped you inside of it. How do we get you out of that? How do you get back to that place? Because when you have that financial paycheck being paid, along with your emotional paycheck being paid, now we’re doing something. Now you get something out of each day, right? You don’t just need a closing. You don’t need the day the money goes in. You don’t need to sign a contract. You just need to do what’s in front of you.

    And now you see a way clearer than you did before because you lived through it. You went through the hard parts and are able to say, and it’s one of my favorite things about real estate and how big it is, it allows you to grow. There’s not one way to do it. There’s multiple ways. There’s ways where if you’re listening to this and you want to get into the business, you can partner with someone like Christina. Go through her course, learn about it, understand it so that then you connect to it in a way that’s repeatable. It’s actually going to get you where you want to go.

    There’s other ways to it grows with you. that’s, that’s, I have ADHD and in my life, I grew up farming starting about 13 and I just went a bunch of jobs route. I did so many different things and it wasn’t until real estate that I found that room to keep growing inside the same thing. I was annoyed. I was changing stuff all the time, but it was just in these tiny little boxes. And then I got to real estate was like, Whoa, got started as a realtor.

    Christina Suter (28:16)
    Mm-hmm.

    Micah Johnson (28:20)
    about two years in, I met my first investor and I was like, what is this? This is amazing. Let me play in this world. Worked with him for a while and then adjusted again. And it’s just been this constant refinement to where now I worry about my day. I want 80 % of my day to be doing things I enjoy doing. 20%, there’s always stuff we don’t like. I’ll leave that for the 20%, but I wanna take my kids to the bus stop every day. I wanna pick them up.

    Christina Suter (28:41)
    Mm-hmm.

    Micah Johnson (28:49)
    I wanna see them when I have them. They’re from a past marriage, so I get them every other week. The week they’re with me, I want to be with them. I want them to be with me. It’s why I work from home. I built this life. I tried to start building it in 2014 to sit exactly where I’m sitting right now so that they’re literally inside the house. I have them this week and they’re sitting in there. I got an 18 step commute home and I can check on them in between calls. It’s my favorite thing, right?

    Christina Suter (29:06)
    Bye.

    Micah Johnson (29:16)
    to wake up and enjoy what it is you’re doing, knowing I set this up on purpose. This is intentional. And once it’s intentional, then it’s not so easily shaken. You can handle market cycles knowing it’s just a market cycle. I’m not going anywhere. I’ll figure out how to capitalize in this one and move on. Other hard life situations, they all gonna find us, but when you’re operating from that place, they don’t shake you down.

    Christina Suter (29:23)
    That’s right.

    Micah Johnson (29:42)
    You don’t fall apart. You don’t have to rebuild. And that’s what I went through multiple times growing up was that rebuild thinking you got to get torn all the way down over and over again until figuring out, hold on. The foundation’s wrong, brother. You got something wrong at the bottom. We got to solve that down there and then start building stuff because you’re building things on things that are already broken. So we’re not getting deep enough.

    Christina Suter (29:59)
    What?

    Micah Johnson (30:06)
    That was the last 10 years of my life is literally understanding the question of, okay, why are you the way you are and all the ways you are? And once you understand that, what do you wanna do? Go.

    Christina Suter (30:17)
    I was

    33 when I went, I’m the problem. I started personal growth at 25, but I was 33 when I really concretely went, this mechanism is the foundation. This mechanism is the thing that needs to change. This mechanism is the thing I have to create peace with and work on and get clear on. And then everything else becomes stuff that comes and goes.

    Like you said, you don’t change your values. You don’t change your ethics. You don’t change your personality. You don’t change who you choose to be as a human being when you’re standing in the grocery store line. You know, like this is who I am and I’m going to stay this way. And maybe some people are raised with that. Like, it consistently as a consistency? Maybe they have it in their twenties, but I sure as heck didn’t. I had to go find mine. Like I really had it. And the beauty of finding it is it’s now mine. It’s mine.

    Micah Johnson (31:04)
    Me neither.

    Bingo, right there.

    Christina Suter (31:13)
    It doesn’t go away.

    It’s just completely mine.

    Micah Johnson (31:16)
    And that is, again, personal development is one of my favorite things to talk about. And this is something I say when I’m working with people. As humans, our equality is only in the fact that we’re human and we all come with the ingredients, but not the same recipe. I cannot solve yours. I’ve spent my entire life solving mine. That’s what showed me that there is one and that the best thing I could do for you is solve me. And the best thing you could do for me is solve you because neither one of us can help with that.

    or do that for each other. Once we’re both in that same alignment, now what we can do is exponential. You reduce friction. You’re not fighting yourself as hard as you’re trying to push yourself.

    Christina Suter (31:53)
    exponential.

    You know, it’s funny because I have a master’s in psychology. So one of the things I do is once I figured that out, and then I went and got my master’s in psychology, and then I realized that being a consultant was more powerful to me than being a therapist. And so therefore consulting in first small business and then in real estate, being able to hear when people are making foundational statements, oh, you just made a foundation, your desire to be a parent.

    your desire to have mastery in life so that you can respect yourself, your desire to express and cultivate. Like you were saying earlier to tie these two together, you were saying earlier real estate is so massive of a field that one, I love working with people because I can hear when they’ve hit that line and I go, there it is. That’s who you want to cultivate yourself to be. There’s the beginning of your values and the declaring of your values you want. Like there’s that.

    But real estate serves almost all of them. I mean, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m just too in love with real estate, but it sure seems to me like you can be an artist. You can be a geek, right? You can be about people. You can be a project manager. You can be, you can be passionate about, you know, creating people better quality lives. And you can be a landlord. You can be passionate about creating better quality lives and do city planning. There was so many things that you could engage in that’s based in your values that real estate can be an expression of that.

    I haven’t hit the edges either. Like I have to intentionally keep myself in my rails, like you talked about. So that I keep building mastery in this area, so that I keep creating finer and finer products to be able to understand who, know, reach my goal, reach my, you know, my sense of personal mastery. That it’s like, no, I’m not going to do commercial. Stop looking at commercial. Get over here. Get back in your lane, Christina. Cause it’s just so much.

    Micah Johnson (33:29)
    Hi.

    It’s an abundance of opportunity. And that’s, once you get into this business and learn how to say yes, your next mission is learning how to say no, how to keep that focus. And then like we’ve been talking about, slowing it down. There’s no rush. You can’t rush it. There’s no way to do it. And you hinted at it too. Especially once you find that stable point and you get your time back in a way that I remember that day where I felt life slowed down, just like.

    Christina Suter (34:17)
    Mm-hmm.

    Micah Johnson (34:18)
    Whoa,

    holy cow, this is different. Why did they feel so much different than the day before it? I was aware of it, I was present for it. I was in each moment and not narrating the moment, watching it from the outside, right? Trying to, am I doing this right? Am I doing this?

    Yes, I agree. Ultimately, I don’t think there’s an edge to it. I don’t think there’s an edge to it. You can find a way. You can find a way again, whether that’s you like to do the house or you just want to put the money in, whichever there’s all kinds of ways to participate. All right, Christina, I could go on and on and on. I’ve loved our call today. So for the folks that are listening that they’ve identified with it too, and be interested in possibly finding out more about you, making a connection, what’s the best way to find you?

    Christina Suter (34:39)
    Okay. I know. We’re too much alike.

    All kinds of Yeah, we can go on and on. I can be quiet.

    really pretty simple. So there’s howtoliverrichlife.info, howtoliverichlife.info, or there’s just my name, christinasutter.com, S-U-T-E-R, christinasutter.com, or there’s real christinasutter on Instagram, because I am the real christinasutter. Right, just saying. I am the real one, babe. ⁓ Here we go, this one, there you go.

    Micah Johnson (35:27)
    BOOM

    That’s main

    character moves when you hit the reel on the front. I love that.

    Christina Suter (35:39)
    So, but you know, really just check me out. I have two meetings a month. I have a podcast. I have social media. Like you can check me out all over the place. You can call me. My phone number, 310-463-5942. As a mentor used to say eyeball to eyeball and belly to belly. And he had a little bit of a belly. So in his case, it might literally have been belly to belly, but like this is a human business.

    Human is how we get it done. So my phone number 310-463-5942. Let’s just talk.

    Micah Johnson (36:12)
    Thank you for sharing that. For those that are listening and watching, you’ll be able to find her number, her links in the show notes. Reach out to Christina, see if it’s a good fit, connect, because she nailed it. This is a human business. Whether you’ve been doing it a long time or you’re just getting in, nobody does it alone. And when you can partner with good people and grow with them, it’s not just deals you do, it’s a community that you build. And that, can’t tell you how much that just fills your life with value. So.

    Christina, again, thank you for being here. For those listeners out there, absolutely. Thank you all for listening. If you got value out of today’s episode, please like this episode, share it with someone else you think could get value out of it. As always, please subscribe to our podcast if you get value as well. We appreciate everybody that does. We’ve got more conversations coming up with operators just like Christina, who are out there building real businesses that are affecting real people’s lives for the better. So thank you, Christina. We’ll see everybody on the next episode.

    Christina Suter (36:42)
    Thank you, Micah.

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