Real Estate Investing Lessons From Rentals, Hard Money, Business Ownership, and Legacy Building

Ro & Tiana (00:01)
I would just piggyback on what my bride has said that it’s in you It’s in you it is Don’t let the world be the arbitrator of your destiny. I Mean it’s and I know that’s kind of deep and a little philosophical but it’s so true Don’t be afraid to be uncomfortable

Quentin (01:58)
Welcome to the Real Estate Pros podcast. I am your host Q Edmonds and I am excited to be here today. Y’all know when I do this big smile, it probably tips you off to let you know. I’m probably talking to somebody close to where I’m at. So, you know, we talk to people all over, but when I have people that’s in the Berlin, the DMV, y’all know I get a little hype. And so that’s with the smile. But then also these are people I can call friends. And so I think this…

is my first real friends that’s on it too. So I’m super excited. And y’all know what excites me the most is when we get to learn other people’s journey. Y’all know stories mean so much to me. And I have learned so much as talking to them backstage that I did not know. So I know you guys are going to learn a lot. And so I am super excited to introduce you all to Ro and Tiana Burnett. How are y’all doing today?

Ro & Tiana (02:55)
Hi Quentin Hello! How are you? Quentin! So glad to be here! This is awesome! It’s great being here.

Quentin (02:56)
⁓ good, doing good. I’m so glad

you’re here. Like this is super exciting. Knowing my audience and knowing, getting to know you all a little bit better. I’m like, wow. Like this is kind of like the perfect blend. And so I’m super excited that we get to learn from your journey. And listen, we got two for the price of one, right? So I am the type, I like to dive right in, right? So I would love for you to tell us.

What’s your main focus these days, right? If you don’t mind, give us a little bit of an origin story, kind of how you got started, how you wind up in the space where you are. And then tell us what part of the world you’re in. People love to know what people are geographically. So what’s your main focus, your origin story, and where y’all are? You too have the floor.

Ro & Tiana (03:47)
So our main focus, so basically we’ve been doing a lot, but we do real estate investing. We’ve been doing, you know, business, investing in businesses, as well as really trying to do passive income as well. So that is what we’ve been doing for right now. We also ⁓ do coaching and we have a nonprofit. So we’re doing a lot.

because we’ve done a lot. And so, and now we’re able to pay it forward. And so we’re able to provide to people and provide them with the lessons that we learned. And some people will be able to really benefit, I think, from our journey of what we have experienced in our lives being business owners and entrepreneurs during this time. Yeah.

Quentin (04:15)
Mmm.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love it. Ro, you got anything to add to that,

Ro & Tiana (04:39)
Yeah.

Yes, I do. Just to put a kind of a cherry on top of it, ⁓ we really are excited about where we are right now in terms of having the experience that we have, ⁓ the opportunities that we have, the skill set and the knowledge that we have, but also the energy that we still have. ⁓ It’s just so much of a blessing to be able to be at this point of our lives, to be able to have some decisions that

that we’ve made way back when they allow us to make decisions now that is not dictated to us, that we dictate, that we are the independent variable, that we impact the environment instead of the environment impacting us. Which it did early on in our business career. It definitely impacted us. So we are the agent of change. And that happens.

just by making good decisions, opening yourself up to learning, and quite frankly, being willing to take some chances.

Quentin (06:35)
Ro, when you

said that, it reminds me the difference of being a thermostat or a thermometer, right? Like a thermometer takes the temperature of where you are. A thermostat say, changed the environment around me. So that’s what kind of environment you said that. Tiana, I think I might’ve cut you off, man. Was you about to say something? I apologize.

Ro & Tiana (06:40)
as a clinical rights.

That’s it. Nope.

you are absolutely right. story. Yeah, our origin story. So basically, Ro and I got married later in life. But I started doing real estate probably 20, 25 years ago. And ⁓ my first property was a rental ⁓ that I had, which worked out really well. As nervous as I was, you know, getting tenants, I was like, this is

Quentin (06:58)
Gotcha.

Ro & Tiana (07:13)
that my first tenants were great, I said, I can really do this, which was a confidence builder in which I’m glad it ended up the way it did. I got really invested into real estate, started doing some wholesaling, actually purchased a wholesale property and it was a nightmare. ⁓ Did a flip, gutted, the gutting part of the ⁓ property was really exciting to me, but I purchased it in 2007. And for those who know what happened in 2008 when it was time to flip,

Quentin (07:29)
No. Yeah.

Ro & Tiana (07:43)
couldn’t sell it. And so now, you know, I’m using a hard money lender and ⁓ need to pay that back and ⁓ ended up renting out instead of selling that property. And it was when we were talking about the lessons learned, I learned probably a thousand and one lessons during that experience. was interesting, but hey, I made it through and we’re still doing it.

Quentin (08:09)
Yeah. Yeah.

Ro & Tiana (08:11)
Real estate started about midway through my military career. I was blessed enough to have a mentor who had been selling, real estate since he had been in the military. We met about midway through my career. I was so fired up, bought three houses at that location. I then went to my next duty assignment, bought another house. ⁓ And my strategy at that point was to buy and hold. I bought if there needed to be a little bit rear.

refurbishment, then we would, you know, gut them and, and that worked out pretty well for a season. ⁓ but for the most part that worked out. However, one of the, where I bought three houses, it’s all about timing because the assumption was that students, I was at a location where a lot of military students came every year. It was a military school. Well, the war broke out, Afghanistan broke out. So,

Timing will impact what you’re doing. Just understand that. If it had not been to that, I would have done extremely well. But as my grandfather used to tell me, if an ant will pot some pans, the world will be a kitchen. Bottom line, don’t be afraid to pull the trigger. You’re gonna learn lessons. You’re going to get into situations. You can do all the learning you want. You can read all the books, attend all the conferences and those things.

Absolutely help but every deal is different Don’t be afraid to make a mistake You don’t want to make a mistake, but sometimes that’s how you’re to learn the most in terms of some of your lessons Okay. Yeah And it was a third question that you asked us. I’m so sad Where we are from the Maryland DMV area? Yes. Yes, lower, Pennsylvania as they call us

Quentin (09:57)
Love it, ⁓ love it. Where you from? Where you guys located?

Absolutely. I get excited when I talk to fellow Maryland people, know, we talk to people all over Indonesia and they can call from Canada, Chicago. But when I got representing Maryland, I’m like, yes, let’s go. Absolutely. Absolutely. So thank you. Thank you for letting us in on what you do now on the journey, walking us through it.

Ro & Tiana (10:09)
Re-pleasant deal. ⁓

Yeah! Look at Marilyn! Love it!

Quentin (10:33)
And so, if you was talking, I was actively listening, writing some, some things now, you know, I got two pages. I’m, I’m actively writing, ⁓ actively listening. And so what I like to do, I like to kind of summarize what people say because I want to make a statement and ask a question. So I’m a little flared for the dramatics a little bit. So I like to show that I was actively listening, give a summary, make a statement, ask a question. Right. So, you see married later on in life.

Ro & Tiana (10:38)
you

Quentin (11:37)
tryna your journey started 25 years ago, investing in real estate. Got some, you know, did some rentals. You started building your confidence. You tried wholesaling, which I believe you said was a nightmare. ⁓ 2017, you got into some fixing flip that you couldn’t sell. And that kind of, know, transitioned you kind of like out of that a little bit. But that’s part of your journey, right? Enrolled, you was midway through military.

You met a mentor and then your next duty, you started buying another property and then you started getting into kind of like the buy and hold and you found out like time and is everything. Right. And so now you’re focusing on passive income coaching. You got the nonprofit ⁓ and now you’re kind of paying paying things for it and your expertise just throughout your journey is kind of coming into play. Is that a pretty good summary of what you gave me? OK, awesome, awesome.

So this is the statement I like to make probably every podcast. Destiny has no wasted moments. No wasted moments, right? Meaning no matter what we’re doing in life, we are building momentum to the people that we are now. And we’re borrowing lessons. We’re borrowing from the journey. We’re borrowing from the failures, because I always say failure is fertilizer, right? So we’re borrowing from the failure because they’re fertilizing us. We’re borrowing from the success. We are reinforcing our why.

We’re reinforcing our passion. We know what we’re doing just based on experience, just some omission, and just some different other things. So we’ve been building momentum during the journey. So I would love to know from you two, what have you learned from the journey? What have you learned from the moment? What have the journey revealed to you about yourself? Has it revealed discipline, resilience? Has it changed the way you know innovation, the way you think? What has the journey revealed to you two about you?

Ro & Tiana (13:32)
you

I will tell you the journey for me goes back to what you said the failures was was not my in destiny even though it felt like it was an end on occasion because some of them were so great it wasn’t it really it goes back again to what you said nothing was wasted I am such a better individual because of the valleys

Quentin (13:41)
Mmm.

Ro & Tiana (14:00)
and the mountains, right? So it took both to make me who I am today. There are people who say, and I used to say it, don’t you wish, or if you had an eraser, wouldn’t you do? And of course I would have, but I would not be the person who I am today. And so because of who I am as an individual, my highs and my lows, my good and my bad, my

Quentin (14:03)
Come on, that’s there.

Ro & Tiana (14:30)
mountains and my valleys, I am able to share and be the mom, the wife, the business owner, the entrepreneur, the minister, the staff pastor, the person who I’m supposed to be today because of all of the things that I have gone through. it took me time to understand that it was working for my good.

Quentin (14:43)
Yeah. Come on.

Mmm.

Ro & Tiana (15:00)
all

of it was not just the good part, but all of it was. And I didn’t understand that for a very long time. I was like, who was for me? Not knowing that there were, he was for me. He was for me. And so therefore I am who I am. Cause I had to believe, I had to believe I had to go back to my root. I had to go underneath the dirt and go back to the root.

Quentin (15:16)
What?

Ro & Tiana (15:27)
of what was told to me when I was a child. And once I started believing the report, the good report, I was able to come to who I am today.

Quentin (15:42)
So well said, real talk to me, sir.

Ro & Tiana (15:44)
Yeah, she stole all my thunder. Yeah, she got it. Yeah, I got to pick it up and drop it again, but I don’t know if I have enough stuff. The bottom line is, I believe what I learned about it, what God says in his word is true about me. I mean, that just kind of summarizes what she said. Understanding that we already win. Understanding…

and really trusting that I don’t care what it looks like today, because I’m telling you, I went through, we went through some seasons that it just, it looked crazy. Yeah. And in our context, because we are a team, just depending on each other, when showing up and being there, that teamwork is fundamental and that unity between as far as our marriage and making that three.

full core that is unbreakable, that can sustain anything, that we are conquerors, that God made us again as creators. We are here to create. He’s given us the power to create wealth. I believe that. He adds nothing to us with sorrow. he gives us, sorrow is not gonna come with that.

and just believing that and have that fundamental, ⁓ fundamental, ⁓ understanding that we win. And then you add the detail. The detail is the learning, you know, reading, you know, getting mentor and, another thing, be careful who you associate yourself with. Be very careful who you, what you put into your eye gate, your ear gate. Be careful about what you speak.

I mean, the knowledge is kind of a little philosophical, but it is so true. Yeah, that’s what they say. If you have nine broke people, you’ll be the tenth. You’re right. So it’s right. You have to be careful who you surround yourself with. we currently have some opportunities that seem… That seem good. Really good. But we’re praying. Do we want to associate ourselves with that person? Not calling that person bad, but maybe that’s not…

God wants us to be associated with. Having the discernment that say all money ain’t good money. I ain’t playing spades, I ain’t playing dominoes, but all money ain’t good money.

Quentin (18:54)
Wow.

Thank you. Thank you for your answers. I’m always intrigued by people’s answers when I ask them that question. And one of reasons why I ask that question, because I want people to know at the center of your business is you. And for both of y’all, it’s y’all, right? But we know how to do is one, right? But the business owner is at the center of their business. So strategies want to change.

You know, you’re going to make money. You know, sometimes, you know, you’re to go do a, long spot, but Hey, what, what is your mindset? What are you doing? Like, and sometimes you’ve got to look back at the journey and realize how you got to where you are. You know, one of my mentors told me, um, when you, when you know who you are, you know what to do. Right. And so sometimes you got to really know who you are. You got to take inventory on how did I get here? What’s my wild, what’s pushing me forward?

That way you can always stabilize yourself when business is going up or down, ebbing and flowing, you still can stabilize yourself. And that’s why I love asking business owners that question because I want people to hear, because again, people on different parts of their journey as they’re listening in, some people, they’re right with you, they’re clapping right along with you. And some people are like, oh, I’m right in the middle of that right now. And I just, love asking that question. It gets people’s perspective on that. And also, you know,

I get to drop little nuggets about the Bible and the Word of God. Sometimes I’m more overtly, sometimes I’m more covertly, right? But when I’m talking to people like you, could be kind of overt. And so, all things work together for the good of them that love the Lord and are called according to his purpose. The Bible talks about we make our plan, but the Lord determines the outcome. Another ⁓ translation says we make our plans, but the Lord determines our steps.

And so I love how y’all synthesize that is that he had the plan. He was working together for your good the whole time. And so again, thank y’all for your answers. I absolutely love it. I appreciate it. Yes. Yes, ma’am.

Ro & Tiana (20:57)
And I do want to add just one more thing that you talked about,

which is something that we do even as a family. We do strategic planning every single year, the top of the year. So this is not just something we do from a business perspective. We do it from a family perspective. We actually write it out in our office where we are now. We can see it right now. can see, we can look at our strategies of what we do from a personal perspective, from a ministry perspective, from a business perspective.

from a family perspective, right? And we want, and this is something that we even incorporate and we share it with our children. It’s like, what do you wanna do for this year, for this year, for five years, for 10 years? And it helps us stay focused when you start divvying off ⁓ of the strategy that you thought was what you were supposed to be doing. It’s like, wait a minute, let’s go back to.

what we thought, what we said we were gonna do. It’s important, so.

Quentin (21:59)
So I love it because I get to quote all these proverbs and stuff like that. I love this conversation. I love the fact I’m talking with y’all because there’s a proverb that says, write division and make it plain. Another translation says without division, the people cast off their restraints. And so the fact that you all can look at division, you won’t drift from it because the division, it puts the constraints on you. That’s outside the parameters of what we talked about. That’s outside the guardrails of what we’re pushing for. And so, no.

Ro & Tiana (22:14)
Yeah.

Very good. Love it.

Quentin (22:29)
I love it. love

it. Speaking of visions, I would love to know what’s next for you guys. Like what’s the next real goal? What’s the next, what are you looking to solve a scale next? What’s next for you?

Ro & Tiana (22:41)
Okay, so one of the big events that’s happening really quick, I’m able to walk away from my ⁓ civilian job, ⁓ really good job, ⁓ but to do the purpose that I’m supposed to do in the context ⁓ of what God has clearly, you know, anointed us and graced us to do. ⁓

be fully active in that, amongst some other things, church and other businesses. I’m in school now, so I need to finish that up. We are stepping away so we can fully support some of our, my wife has just started this coaching. And what you said about the foundation, about business, who you are.

And I’ll put a plug in there for her coaching that coaching really starts at the fundamental level before you can build anything substantive in business. You have to understand who you are. ⁓ Our pastor says who you be. So without understanding that you’re building whatever, whether it’s business or relationship, whether it’s ⁓ other types of endeavors, it’s built on a foundation that you really don’t understand.

So there’s this book called Business by the Book. I forget the author, but it’s a really good read. read that right as we were getting into our franchises. So we’re excited about that. And for me, it’s also the building of legacy, the building of generational wealth.

allowing, we’re a blended family. Fortunately and thankfully, the kids, the children come, I still call them kids, the children, the young adults, the adults come together. Yeah. They come together very well. And we are teaching them, our goal is really to teach them about what you can do with what we’ve already laid as a foundation.

Quentin (24:41)
The kids! We sat down and I sat down and I’m sorry.

Ro & Tiana (24:55)
So you have ⁓ an opportunity to start here or you can start back down here if you’d like. It’s up to you because we have placed the bar here. These are all the resources. We’re taking all of our knowledge, all of our intel, all of our money, all of our resources and we’re pouring it into this business, BG Kingdom, right where God is building the kingdom.

and you get to be a part of that. Or you can start it at your level, whatever you want to do. But just know that we’re here. And that is my goal. Our legacy, generational wealth, it matters. We want some trust fund grand babies. Yeah, it matters. That’s what we’re doing. And we’re also investing in hotels. We have opportunities that I did not have growing up.

It wasn’t even a thought in my mind. My mom was very entrepreneurial. She had the, you know, she used to do hair, you know, in the kitchen, but she, I don’t know if anybody, and I come from a very large family that really was a business owner, entrepreneur. So our goal is to really make sure that we’re doing this for our family and we’re doing this and we’re helping other people that are interested in not starting from the bottom. You don’t have to.

Quentin (26:23)
Again, y’all say so many things that synthesize, y’all talking about the kingdom language. you know, one of the things you said when you talked about, you your kids, you know, the Bible talks about how they are kind of like the arrow in the bow. And you talked about, you know, opportunities that you create for them. Like, even Jesus said greater works than these, we gonna do, right? Because he was, when he chose to be in this body, he was limited to earth, when he chose it.

Ro & Tiana (26:37)
Mmm.

Quentin (26:52)
but there was gonna be a time when he was gonna go away and he was letting them know that y’all gonna do greater works because y’all gonna take what I did and it’s gonna be so many of y’all, y’all gonna start expanding the work. And that’s how it is with your kids. Like you give them everything that you’ve given them, but then they’re gonna build, they’re gonna take what you gave them and then what they learn, what the God give them. And it’s almost like a bow. They can be shot out and go so far off because they are equipped with so much that you’ve given them and so many opportunities. And so, oh man, I just.

I love the way that y’all thinking and I love to ask this question. Y’all talked about kids, y’all are here. Y’all talked about businesses, franchising. So I’m gonna love to get your perspective on this word. When you hear the word relationship, what comes to mind for you two?

Ro & Tiana (27:36)
you

Gosh for me it’s it’s how do we yeah break it down by the root word relate relate How how relative relative is a root word of relate so relative to my bride? What position am I in what position is here? because when you look at relative to me she is X relative to her I am Y

that relationship really helps to form ⁓ either a powerful mechanism to go forward or a powerful mechanism to go back because that relationship can spiral up or can spiral down depending on the nature of the relate. So with us,

When I tell you for the time I met her, I was talking about team, team, team, teamwork, teamwork, we’re one, we’re one, we’re one. And ⁓ largely or conceptually she brought into it. However, that we’re still aspiring to, it takes time. It’s an aspiration. What I’m describing is aspirational. It’s biblical because the Bible talks about.

The two shall become one. Shall become, infers a process. It doesn’t mean you are one. So when I say relationship, when I hear it in our context, in our marriage, that’s what really speaks to me. And the notion that everybody’s relationship should abide in, in my estimation, biblical principles. Now, but those principles,

how they play themselves out are the tactics. The tactics, can, tactics may be different. Tactics will differ, but principles remain the same. So how we relate may be different, but we are producing the same principles. I love that. That’s really good. And when I think of relate, like you said, but it’s not just people relationship. It’s like with everything. How do you relate to

when we’re talking about business, how do we relate when we’re talking about finances? How do we relate with each other as we’re talking about all of the different things, especially in business? It can be really hard. We work together. with, when I was growing up, I was like, man, how do people that are married work at the same job, work together? You know, so, and then we do it in business, right? And initially that was extremely tough for us.

And I used to tell him, you’re not the boss of me. I quit. I quit. She quit about six times. Yeah. I quit. And he’s like, OK, I’ll see you tomorrow. ⁓ you go through those things. It’s very, very hard. But we had to understand, for us, we had to get those roles intact. So that was crucial.

Wait, wait, wait. And so when we decided that we were going to define the roles and the two, you know, again, going back to the strategies, this is going to be your role, this is going to be your role, and we’re not going to cross roles. And there were times when I literally had to, when we’re dealing with employees, relationship, this is my husband, but I got a team member who’s been offended by my husband. And now I have to put on my HR hat and say, husband,

Get out of the store because ex-employee is not feeling comfortable with what you just did with this new policy. Actually, the relationship wasn’t husband, it was owner. Yeah. So that’s how we related in that circumstance. was a relationship. ⁓ boundary is a relationship. Boundary is a facet of relationship. So there were certain boundaries we had to set. The role defining.

Quentin (31:31)
Yeah, yeah.

Ro & Tiana (31:50)
A lot of people think, well, if you’ve got a certain boundary, well, no, that’s how you relate. In this specific setting, to create this principle, the relationship has to be, okay, there’s a boundary. I don’t cross this boundary. That means that expands to every other part of our relationship. So it’s an as you research, as you understand it, you need to be deliberate about that. And understand, you know, just because I got on Boss Hat today, soon as I stepped through the door, I have on

servant husband hat. Yeah. That’s how, you know, so, and you’ve got to be ready to jump back and forth between those as required. Don’t carry one into the other unless you have to, you know what I mean? It will help you in your marriage when you understand what the roles are, what the boundaries are, what you’ve set aside, you know.

when you get into your safe space, which is your home and your workspace, which is just that. I love the story of the Bible where they’re rebuilding the wall, ⁓ you know, when they come back. And if you read, and I forget exactly where it is in word, but the relationship, how they relate as they’re built, certain people had to build this section of the wall. Certain people had to build this section of the wall.

Quentin (32:52)
Yeah.

Ro & Tiana (33:16)
And all of them are related because they are working together. And when you look at that example, that principle, I think it manifests or at least is a tangible example of relationship in action where it is literally going to complete something that is going to be protective in nature. It’s going to be productive in nature.

Quentin (33:41)
So listen, I do close to probably 100 podcasts a month. So I do a lot of podcasts. And I always ask that question. I’ve never heard someone so eloquently rig down the relate part. Thank you. That was a master class of my relate. I love that. And even what you added at the end. So this is why I normally tack on at the end.

Ro & Tiana (34:04)
Thank

Quentin (34:04)
when we talk about relationship is the word community. I always say, community is common unity, right? It’s people who are submitted to the division, submitted to a common goal. They may do different things, but they are committed to the goal so that it can move forward, so that we can achieve the same goal. And so when I think about relationship, also always think about that word ship. Like eloquently, y’all explained the relate part. Now we got relate within this ship.

Ro & Tiana (34:31)
Yeah.

Quentin (34:32)
and the ship

Ro & Tiana (34:33)
Yeah.

Quentin (34:33)
is going somewhere. We are constrained to the ship. You can jump off the ship, but depending on where you are, you know, that may not be the best option. So we on this ship. And so it could be a rowboat. The larger you grow, it could be a yacht, you know, and it can continue to grow. But what are our roles? How are we relating while we’re on the ship, powering it forward together? Somebody got to play specific roles as the ship goes together. And so.

Ro & Tiana (34:36)
Yeah.

Quentin (35:01)
I absolutely love how y’all talk about relationship. That was brilliant. That was absolutely brilliant. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So listen, is there any topic that I have not brought up that y’all would like to talk about? Is there any other words of inspiration, education, motivation? Like, I’m not sure if y’all came in maybe with a message on your mind that you felt like, hey, we want to make sure people know this because I know y’all are strategic.

Ro & Tiana (35:03)
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

Quentin (35:30)
If there’s like a certain message that you wanted to send, I want to make sure that I create space so that you can land that message.

Ro & Tiana (35:36)
Yeah.

So for me, I would say it’s time to move. It’s time to move. That has been the thing that has been just plaguing people for so long. They feel like I have to stay at this job. I have to stay at this, ⁓ you know, doing what I’m doing. ⁓ I can’t go back to school. I can’t start a new ABC. It’s time.

to move. And as Ro is already shared, I do have a coaching program ⁓ that we provide that help you become unstuck, if you will, to get out of that mindset that I can’t do this. I’m too old to do this. We started our businesses. We were well into our 50s. People told us we were crazy to start our business at the age that we were.

because they were like, you should be retiring, enjoying life. Guess what? We were. Because all those many years that we were doing whatever we were doing, that wasn’t our heart’s desire, right? That wasn’t my heart’s desire. I always wanted to be a business owner. I had now had a chance to do it in a brick and mortar. So it is time, I’m talking to you, it’s time for you to move.

Give them website. ⁓ should I give them the website? I can give them the website.

Quentin (37:05)
Not yet, not yet.

Bro, is there anything you want to say to that?

there anything you want to leave? Any parting words?

Ro & Tiana (37:10)
Yeah,

I would just piggyback on what my bride has said that it’s in you It’s in you it is Don’t let the world be the arbitrator of your destiny. I Mean it’s and I know that’s kind of deep and a little philosophical but it’s so true Don’t be afraid to be uncomfortable

Because at the end of the day, ⁓ comfort equates to status quo. If you’re comfortable in doing something, ⁓ there are so many analogies about comfort versus about being challenged and being uncomfortable. It’s in physicalness of how you, the process by which you create muscle.

is rooted in being uncomfortable. That’s just the nature of the beast. So I have learned literally when I’m uncomfortable to associate that with advance, with progress, with… So even though I don’t feel it, I know this is something that is moving me forward. Even if it’s frustrating, that’s uncomfortable. Even if it’s agonizing, that’s uncomfortable. Now I’m not saying be a…

A harbinger for pain, that’s not what I’m saying. ⁓ Uncomfort and pain are two different things. But recognize that…

doing everything to be as comfortable as you possibly can is going to lead you most likely to meteorocracy. So don’t be afraid to change and be uncomfortable because that’s where the most growth happens is when you are in positions that cause what’s in you to come out.

Quentin (39:02)
I cannot thank you enough for coming on. You have highly spoken to a lot of the angles I try to take on this podcast. Yeah, we’re going to talk about real estate. We’re going to talk about strategy. We’re going to talk about different things. But I’m always concerned with the person that’s in the business, right? That’s what I’m always concerned with because, you know, we got a lot of podcasts out there, a lot of books that we talk about that teach you strategies, implementing different things.

But I feel like one of my goals, what I’ve been called to do, is to help people recognize what’s already in them, what’s powering them for it, right? What is your center? Why are you doing the thing you do? And I feel like if people understand their mindset, why they are in the position that they’re in doing what they do, I feel like for me, that is planting seeds that they can grow from and be a lot better within their business. so ⁓ if someone wanted to get in contact with you, they wanted to reach out, collaborate.

Ro & Tiana (39:35)
you

Quentin (39:58)
Learn more about what you’re doing, get in contact with you. How can they get in contact with you too?

Ro & Tiana (40:03)
There you have it. This is where you do this. ⁓ So I am an author as well. have a book called Single Doubt. So you can go to www.single-out.com and order the book. We also have www.bgkingdom.com. That is our website where you can also learn and sign up for. ⁓

Quentin (40:08)
you

Ro & Tiana (40:32)
the sessions that we just talked about, the courses that we offer, and we offer just so many things. And so again, take a look at our website, order the book, have a workbook to go with it. If you take the course, you get that, that is included in the course. And so we hope to hear from you. One more other, we talked about relationship and relating, related to those two courses are also go to www.purposeai.com.

So though that will literally help you ⁓ Take that business nugget that idea that dream that impulse in you that says I have to do this and we can help you do that So between those three websites, we should be able to help you if we’re here for you. We’re here for you We’re excited and again, that’s www.purposeai.com

Quentin (41:27)
Listen, let me say three things to you both sincerely. So first, thank you for your time. You could have been doing anything else in the world, but you chose to give us your time. I believe time is our most precious commodity, right? I believe we do what we do to decide. I mean, we work and we do what we do to decide who are we going to give and what we’re going to give our time to, right? So the fact that you gave us some of your time, that is to me, very, very valuable. And so thank you for giving us your time.

Secondly, thank you for your story, for your narrative. You know, I get to say sometimes Jesus taught in parables. So I believe stories are so powerful. A parable is an allegory, has multiple meanings. And so y’all have shared so many facets of your story. And I believe stories, they plant a seed in people. We may never see the growth, but the seed is still there. And that growth can happen two years, five years from now.

Ro & Tiana (42:17)
Yeah.

Quentin (42:23)
And I believe y’all have literally planted some seeds that can literally course correct somebody’s life. So secondly, thank you for telling your story. Lastly, thank you for your perspective, for the way y’all think in bringing that perspective to this platform. I greatly appreciate y’all coming on today.

Ro & Tiana (42:35)
Bye.

Thank

Very well. Thank you. Our pleasure. Thank you so much. appreciate Thank you for trusting us. Yes. Yes. Thank you. We really appreciate it. And we wish you

Quentin (42:45)
Absolutely. Oh, no. Absolutely. I appreciate y’all.

Well, listen, y’all heard from Tana and Ro. Listen, look into the show notes. Everything that they said, how to get in contact with them, the resources is in the show notes. Do yourself a favor and connect with them. It’s going to change your life. I mean, I’m just going to tell you, I’m just going to put it flat out there. It’s going to change your life. So definitely connect with them. But definitely make sure you’re subscribed here because I promise you, we’re going to continue to bring up

Amazing people just like Rowan Tana. So I say thank you to y’all again I greatly appreciate it and then listen everyone else

y’all having an incredible day