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In this conversation, Shifu Xi Miao Jingshen shares his extensive experience in trading, private banking, and wealth creation. He discusses the importance of understanding debt, the psychology behind trading, and the current economic landscape. Shifu emphasizes the advantages of private funding and banking, as well as the legal structures that allow for tax-efficient operations. He also provides insights into market trends and strategies for navigating the equity markets effectively.

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    Shifu Xi Miao Jingshen (00:00)
    In real estate you’d be looking at 12 months probably right? Yeah, but you acquire a place you’re looking to turn it over Refurb it move into it Airbnb it yeah move it move it on or move into it, you know So

    To me, real estate is flatlined. I think it’s peaked. at this point in my career, I’m out of real estate. I’m completely flat on real estate. But I’m still bullish gold and silver, even though they’re peaking. They may go a little bit higher, but they’re peaking.

    However, the equity markets are always available. So my goal in an equity market is simply on a daily basis because every day it makes significant moves that with a $6 million account, you can very easily earn $10,000 per day.

    Quentin Edmonds (02:32)
    Hello everyone. Welcome to the real estate pros podcast. I am your host Q Edmonds and I am excited to be here today. I’m excited about my guest. I love his approach. I know you’re going to get a ton of value out of what he has to say. And he’s the one he’s one of the first people I ever talked about feeling the vibrations of the market. And I love his approach to it. He even told me that, listen, he rise the ways, but he has definitely, he has strategies.

    So his strategies are so good. He has a 97 % success rate. That’s what he teaches. That’s how he, know, listen. So I’m excited. I’m excited for you. get to know what he do and learn his strategies. And so I’m going to let him do his whole name, but I’m going to call him Mr. Shifu, but he’s going to give us his whole name because it’s really beautiful. And maybe he’ll go more into about it later, but I want to introduce you guys to Mr. Shifu. Mr. Shifu, how you doing today, sir?

    Shifu Xi Miao Jingshen (03:26)
    Thank you, Q. Thank you. The name is Shifu Zhimao Jingchen, which is my given name through official channels from the Shaolin Temple in China as a Shaolin warrior practitioner of 46 years. So that’s how I regulate my humanity and my sanity. ⁓

    Quentin Edmonds (03:52)
    Absolutely. And listen, we’re probably gonna get more into that for sure. But for right now, I kind of want us, let’s start off you diving into your world. Like I would love you for you to tell people what your main focus is these days. If you want to give us a little bit of an origin story about how you got to where you are now, we’d love for you to do that. And then tell us what markets you’re operating in. Even if that applies, like, you know, there’s a specific demographic market that you operate in.

    We would love to know that as well. So sir, the floor is yours. Please do talk.

    Shifu Xi Miao Jingshen (04:24)
    Sure.

    Thank you, Q. Oh, boy. You know, I got involved in aerospace and IT technology. I was in that space for 25 years plus. And I started commodity trading back in the early 2000s with pork bellies and sugar and corn and all that jazz. And I read a book called You Can Never Lose Trading Commodities.

    And the guy that wrote it, I lived in Los Angeles and the guy that wrote it was out in the Valley. And he wrote that book and I called him up and said, dude, I gotta come talk to you. Like what you’re writing about is monumental. And I never did get to see him because he was breaking up with his girlfriend at that moment. But I read that book from cover to cover and I was hooked. I was hooked in the market. I was like, I have to figure this out.

    So I ended up taking a pork belly trade early on and pork bellies dipped to a historical low and I was in $11,000 deep and guess what happened? Pork bellies went down, down, down and then whoosh, but it took a year for them to turn around and I couldn’t hold on so I lost that 11K. But after it,

    Reversed I was like, ⁓ my god. ⁓ So I never wanted to have that experience again so I began to seek out other traders and people in the space who could You know bring me into a better understanding like Robert Kiyosaki and then other well-known equity traders that I found So I began to discover how to really rate

    ride those waves and understand the deeper meaning of the markets so I did ride the 2006 7 and 8 wave But I was locked in heavy into real estate and got pounded and But that only made me want more so years later I realized

    I like real estate, but I also want to ride the equity markets because it’s a billions of dollars, trillions of dollars market. So how do I work both of those to leverage that wave as best as I can? That’s all that was in my head, you know? And so through that process, I discovered

    Debt is good. And that you can operate privately and not just publicly. So when I realized that I never got a real estate license, but I began to trade real estate without a license and just privately. And I was like, ⁓ this is really great. I really like this.

    I don’t need to operate in that space. And so the last deal that I did in Arizona was through my private banking channel. So I bought and sold that property privately without having to disclose to any government entity the profit amount.

    Even though it was the short-term sale, was only like a year and a half.

    when When I discovered that I thought ⁓ my god you can originate operate and terminate privately Without any government agency without any government oversight without disclosure and without taxation completely and legally by title 26 irs code And that whole paradigm

    Just through my brain out the window. I was like You can this actually works like it’s amazing. So when you apply that to real estate you can Hold real estate short term and I know there’s lots of tricks with multiple LLC’s and corpse and trusts and whatnot but Holding real estate privately is different

    So you’re not subject to the increase in profits. You literally are not required to file. So you have two things or three things going on. I started to really discover that debt is good. Debt can pay you. Operating privately pays even better. And that you can, if you align yourself with the proper private channels for funding,

    You can then receive funding at a huge discount and profit from that. So as an example in the international capital equity markets, I discovered that you can borrow millions of dollars for one tenth of 1 % versus a real estate hard loan is about 25%. So I began to switch over to

    Equity markets as a core model rather than real estate even though real estate’s done. Well ⁓ I’ve done much better in the equity markets than the real estate markets. So So there’s there’s basically to recoup or recount There’s kind of four strategies that I use debt is good Private banks are great Private funding can be amazing

    And the fourth one is learning to ride the cycle waves in the equity market. So what cycle waves? Is it a daily cycle wave or an hourly cycle wave? I actually ride the 30 second to five minute cycle waves in the equity market because it’s safer. There’s less risk.

    And so I’ll be in and out of the markets five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 times a day. And when I’m done for the day, I’m done with my risk. Like I’m, I’m finished. Whatever happens overnight or what happens on the weekend does not affect me. So in 2018, was like, if debt is good, let me go down that path.

    Let’s let’s try something. So I incurred almost 200 K in legal federally recognized debt. And I received that money from Uncle Sam did not have to pay it back. Legally, it was mine. Technically, it’s mine. By law, it was mine. And I never had to pay it back. I kept it. It was a

    a one way interest free, I won’t call it a loan because it was essentially a distribution. So I use that distribution to then

    build the private, additionally build my private banking setup. And that private banking is through Title 26 of IRS code where we’ve got Everson versus Board of Education, which is a landmark case. We’ve got multiple other cases. Title 26 US code, you do not have to be incorporated.

    Hmm, so my private entity is actually an unincorporated entity Because when you become incorporated they’re now in the public sphere and under the eye of the watchdog So whether you’ve got a 501 503 508 it doesn’t matter Those are all public entities, but if you read correctly in title 26 You will read that there is no

    mandate no law that requires you to incorporate. You can remain unincorporated. This is a legal null. So you don’t have to notify the Secretary of State. You don’t have to file. You are basically applying for complete exemption

    when you get an EIN, but that EIN is an exempt EIN and there’s a certain way that you have to do it. So again, you can operate or you can originate, you can operate and you can terminate without notification of anybody. It’s buried in…

    Title 26. Yeah, it’s kind of a mind blower, right? Yeah, absolutely. So you can exist, all of people that do this with me, we exist in a legal null. Now, this has also been recently held up in several cases in US IRS tax court. And in those cases, every time

    guess what the judge is forced to say. Now, this is not common law. I’m not talking common law. I’m talking federal IRS law. In all those cases, the judge said, case closed, I have no legal jurisdiction. So I’ve studied common law. I went to the George Gordon School of Common Law. I spent years there. I’ve got cases that I tried to push through federal courts and the Supreme Court.

    To no avail because common law they’re trying to kill common law but IRS code law is Current federal law now they may change it at some point. I doubt it But it’s current law. Okay, so you’ve got these two things going for you then the third is Seeking out private funding Through the correct channels and

    This week, my private funder just announced that they’re doing a special just for a week for 1 10th of 1 % interest per month on up to $6 million. It’s a mind blower. So then what my people do is we take the money and we put it into the equity markets.

    and we trade equity markets. It’s never been any easier ever in history that I can think of. It’s kind of a mind blower that you can take that much money.

    and use it To work in the markets now, how do you work it in the markets is the next question, right? There’s a dozen different ways you can do it I prefer to stay because of the times that we’re in I prefer to stay Very risk adverse because I don’t know what’s gonna happen silver just jumped Today it hits sixty four dollars

    Right on. ⁓ So I’ve been waiting for this trade in silver for 15, 17 years. ⁓ yep. So I have taken some out because you start scaling out when silver gets too high or gold, you start scaling out. So I’m using the same strategy that I use

    Quentin Edmonds (19:15)
    Wow.

    Shifu Xi Miao Jingshen (19:33)
    in the equity markets for gold and silver right now. Yeah. So.

    Quentin Edmonds (19:40)
    this so, so fascinating. mean, everything that you said, I am finding fascinating. A lot of stuff I did not know about kind of hearing for the first time. So I definitely thank you for walking us through the journey. Let me ask you, what’s the next real goal for you? Like what do you have a next goal in sight, target in sight that you’re trying to hit?

    Shifu Xi Miao Jingshen (20:01)
    Absolutely. ⁓

    In real estate you’d be looking at 12 months probably right? Yeah, but you acquire a place you’re looking to turn it over Refurb it move into it Airbnb it yeah move it move it on or move into it, you know So

    To me, real estate is flatlined. I think it’s peaked. at this point in my career, I’m just about 70. So at this point in my career, I’m out of real estate. I’m completely flat on real estate. But I’m still bullish gold and silver, even though they’re peaking. They may go a little bit higher, but they’re peaking.

    However, the equity markets are always available. So my goal in an equity market is simply on a daily basis because every day it makes significant moves that with a $6 million account, you can very easily earn $10,000 per day.

    That’s what my students are doing is about 10K, somewhere between four and 13 or 14,000 per day. As a base level.

    doing $1,000 a day is not difficult. So as an average, if you’re loaded up with up to 6 million, then even 10,000 a day is pretty decent. Now, it sounds like a huge amount of money, but in today’s market, things have really changed. And so the availability

    of capital acquisition is off the charts. It’s just off the charts. So for real estate, it would be one year. And for the equity markets, I wouldn’t look ahead more than one day at a time because they’re that crazy right now. Yeah.

    Quentin Edmonds (22:27)
    Listen, you have given people a ton of knowledge and a ton of resources, a total kind of mind shift in a way that I’m sure people kind of think about things. So listen, Mr. Shifu, if someone wanted to get in contact with you, wanted to collaborate with you, learn more about what you’re doing, how can they reach out to you,

    Shifu Xi Miao Jingshen (22:46)
    Absolutely My email would be the best it’s info info@ kaivalya.trading that’s K AI V a L y a dot trading

    [email protected] is the easiest way to reach me. And ⁓ that’s also my website.

    HTTPS Wack dot dot whack whack, whatever it is. Yeah, kaivalya.trading on there I give more information and you know how to connect with me, but the times that we’re in right now and the opportunity in 2026 has never been more amazing. It’s just it’s really really quite incredible.

    So private debt reduction, private funding, private banking is available for everybody. If you have debt or even massive debt, ⁓ I know how to clear that very quickly. I know how to get people funded very quickly. ⁓ and the other thing about funding, there’s no credit required.

    In private funding, the way I do it, your credit score can be not good and you can still get funded.

    Quentin Edmonds (24:22)
    Well, listen, y’all heard him. Y’all have the value, sir. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for your stories and for your time. Thank you for your perspective. Really, really appreciate it. And so, yeah, again, I just appreciate you being here.

    Shifu Xi Miao Jingshen (24:38)
    Thank you for having me on the show. It was wonderful. Nice to meet you and all.

    Quentin Edmonds (24:42)
    meet you as well. So listen, y’all got the value. Make sure you’re subscribed because I keep telling you we’re going to continue to bring up incredible people. And today was definitely no different. Sir, I thank you again. Aloha from Maui. Aloha. We’ll see you on the next time.

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