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High Income Isn’t Freedom: How Passive Investing Creates Time and Cash Flow

By February 5, 2026Real Estate Pros Show

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In this episode of the Real Estate Pros podcast, host Micah Johnson speaks with Bronson Hill about his journey in real estate investing, focusing on diverse investment strategies, the importance of clarity in goals, and the pursuit of financial freedom through passive income. They discuss the significance of mindset and personal development, embracing uncertainty and risk, and the value of building relationships and networking. Bronson shares insights from his experiences and emphasizes the importance of serving others in the business world.

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    Micah Johnson (00:00)
    And it’s a whole mentality. And that’s what happens through personal development as well. You stop being the coolest person you know, and you start feeling a part of something bigger than yourself. Like that feeling right there where it’s, man, I’m participating in something that’s bigger than me. Nothing’s ever lit me up more than that feeling, right? It was one of the best days. Cause then it’s, everything’s way less personal. It’s way easier, honestly, to deal with stuff because it’s not about me. It’s just stuff that happens.

    Hey everyone, welcome to the Real Estate Pros podcast. I’m your host, Micah Johnson. And today I’m speaking with Bronson Hill, who’s been making some serious moves in the real estate investing space. Bronson, welcome in man, glad to have you.

    Bronson Hill (02:11)
    Hey, Micah excited to be here. I know we’re coast to coast. You’re in Florida. I’m in LA. So we can bring it home, man, and just talk about what’s happened in the US in real estate.

    Micah Johnson (02:20)
    We’re going to start on the edges and work our way in. So I think our listeners are really going to take some value away from our conversation today. I’m excited about it. Really just your story in real estate, what it is that you do now, and then how you keep making sure people understand how to get into this game, how to do it well. So let’s dive in there. For folks who may not know you yet, what’s your main focus right now and what markets you operate in?

    Bronson Hill (02:42)
    Yeah, so we basically we do real estate. We do a variety of things outside of real estate as well. We’re doing oil and gas other projects. So for real estate, we love ⁓ a few things. This year we’re focused on mobile home parks, you know, with a national operator. We’ve got some self-storage in the Midwest, actually in the South, South and Midwest. We love industrial. We’ve got an industrial project we’re doing in the Midwest. So I think, you know, a lot of Midwest stuff we like.

    ⁓ just because we see a lot of, and we’ve seen a lot of booms in Florida and Texas and other areas, and then we’ve seen some busts, right? We’ve seen some challenges of overbuilding or just some other issues. we’re really like certain sectors. We’re also love the senior housing space as well. And so just trying to find the right types of deals that really meet our investors’ goals of cashflow, which is what everybody wants today, and really having even some tax benefits in there too.

    Micah Johnson (03:31)
    It’s gotta be fun to be able to play nationwide, man. But the way that you go about it where, you know, when you’re playing in your own backyard, you get really limited to one asset, which it’s fine to do, not knocking it. There is a level of fun when you get to start researching outside as you grow in the business and get to see, look how this same skill touches over here where I can do this for oil and gas too. I can do it for this. I can look over here where you really get to spread your wings a little bit, do some cool stuff.

    Bronson Hill (03:56)
    Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and it’s really interesting. We’ve I wrote a book on the shelf here behind me called fire yourself. You give an Amazon number one bestseller. And basically we talked that, know, as an investor, you don’t have to be a one trick pony. You don’t have to be only, you know, a certain type of real estate. I just do multifamily or only do this certain area. I might unashamed goal is to own everything and operate nothing. Right. I want to be somebody who raises capital, invest my own money. And really, it’s important as an investor. I asked this question of like, you know, well, I’ve over 25, I’ve had over 2500 one on one.

    phone calls or Zoom calls with investors and we raised over 50 million. But basically the question is, do you want cash flow? Do you want appreciation? A lot of people are very unclear on what their goals are. And so it’s important to figure out what you want. If you want cash flow, ⁓ right now in real estate, that’s hard to do. There are certain things to do, but it’s hard to do it. Debt funds are great, like debt funds that provide consistent cash flow is great. Oil and gas is a great one. But as an investor, you have the ability to choose what really helps you meet your goal. So I don’t necessarily love real estate. I love what it does for me.

    but I also am open, I kind of as a free agent to other investments that provide things that are closer to my goals as I need them.

    Micah Johnson (05:47)
    I think you nailed it right there, man. why, what are you doing this for? What’s the ultimate goal of the mission that you’re on? It’s absolutely critical to pulling it off because if not, you’re just kind of slinging stuff at the wall to see what sticks and man, that’s a good way to lose fast a lot and dedicating that time with folks like you’re doing.

    Well, it just ripples throughout the project. When you can know up front, this is exactly what we’re trying to do. It makes the hard conversations simpler and it makes the good conversations even better.

    Bronson Hill (06:18)
    Yeah, absolutely. You know, it really is. It’s important to get clear on what it is you want, what it is you’re doing. For a lot of people, I mean, for me, when I started, you know, I was a ⁓ medical professional making over 250,000 a year. And the thing that I wanted, I mean, I saw doctors that were making, you know, some were making millions a year and a couple cardiologists. I’m thinking about just making really, really good money. And, but they would work 60 or 80 hours a week. And I just thought, you know, that doesn’t feel like freedom to me, right? Freedom to me felt like time freedom. So I was like, well, I want to do something that actually will free up more of my time.

    Or if I spend the time, it’s at least in a way that I want, but I don’t feel like I’m going to work and I’m grinding, right? Most people, 70 % of people don’t enjoy their jobs. They’re not engaged at work in their business, whatever, just because it’s either it’s too easy, it’s not intellectually engaging, or they don’t have autonomy. But when you can create something that’s like, I’m going to create this life that produces this income for me, whether I go to work or not. Warren Buffett says, unless you want to learn how to make money while you sleep, you’ll work until you die, right? So that’s really, I think, the goal of everything we do is how do we help people

    that are somewhat a slave to like, whether you’re making minimum wage or you’re making a million dollars a year, if you have to go in and do it, if something happened, God forbid, you became disabled, you had a family you had to take care of, you wanted to travel, you had a health issue, ⁓ would you be able to do it? And so I think the thing is that’s where everybody should start putting money in this other bucket, which is called passive income.

    Micah Johnson (07:36)
    I agree, man. I agree because it’s never been more accessible than right now in our lifetimes. The ways you can get into any type of investing really, but especially in real estate, there’s truly passive ways to do it now. Like real estate got sold as a passive thing for a long time for folks that, you know, they went and bought a few single family houses and realized, hold on, there’s nothing passive about this. There are some passive ways, but it’s finding that way into it is, okay, what do I actually want to do? Cause you guys started with some single family, right? And then started,

    Bronson Hill (07:58)
    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (08:06)
    adjusting up as you went.

    Bronson Hill (08:08)
    Yeah, I think it’s important to continually change your goals and figure out ⁓ is what you’re doing in your life getting you the results you want. And for me, honestly, I looked at my life and I thought I’m making good money, but I don’t have the freedom. don’t want to be able to create it. I’m a songwriter, I’m a musician, I wrote a book now. I traveled to 48 countries. And so I’ve realized having the flexibility to be able to do those things has been very important to me. It’s been very important. so,

    Once a quarter actually get away for two nights every quarter and I just evaluate am I getting the results from my life that I want and if not what needs to change right and so It’s it’s so important that as you instead of just mindlessly a lot of people we know work really hard and They’re great at working hard, but working hard doesn’t necessarily mean making more money or more freedom or those things So it’s important to like work in your business or in your job But step back and think about am I getting the results I want and it’s I think that’s a very valuable skill that a lot of people overlook

    Micah Johnson (09:05)
    Is that what you dig into in your book?

    Bronson Hill (09:07)
    I talk about my book, it really is a process of, you these 2500 calls I’ve had with high net worth investors of, I know I should be doing real estate. I know I should be doing these other things. I have friends that do it. I don’t know how to do it. I’ve only done stocks. What’s kind of like why, you know, first of all, it’s like, why is what I’m doing with the stock market not working? And why is it like actually more risky than I think it could be? And really, what is the life I want to create for myself? So if I did want to be able to retire, maybe I don’t retire, but I at least have the freedom to. It’s amazing once you know, like, I don’t need to go to work for this job.

    like the bot, don’t have to be working in this way or I don’t have to go into the business or if I sell the business, I know I’ll have enough and I know I’ll have this skill to be able to generate capital. I’m already generating enough to cover my living expenses. That’s freedom. That really is, there’s a real mindset shift. So this is a guide of kind of like, first of all, how do you even get around that? Get your mind around it. It can sound kind of scary as maybe you never invested in a deal that’s one of these private deals, these passive investment deals. And so it’s a framework. And I think for anybody who’s raising capital or anybody who’s

    an operator. just a really good way to kind of get in the head of somebody who’s like in the space of like I’m somebody’s making money. I’m high net worth. Like what do I need to do? What’s step one, two, three to kind of get moving toward becoming financially free, not just enough money, but actual true freedom, which is freedom of time.

    Micah Johnson (10:54)
    And the word I like for it that what you describe is agency. When you don’t have to, you have agency in your life. When you are actually choosing to, there is a switch that goes off where you feel completely different. It’s like your internal world shifts and it’s like, okay, you wake up each day and you know, I’m choosing this. I’m now choosing to do this. Whether it’s hard or simple that day, it doesn’t matter. You’re choosing it. It weighs on you different. Man, it’s gotten me a lot more out of life viewing life that

    Bronson Hill (11:08)
    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (11:24)
    I got on I started thinking about it about 11 years ago. Actually when I got into real estate same kind of thing freedom I want a very certain way I wanted to live my life now I live that way and it is I love it I love it is created very intentionally for me to be right where I’m at right here with you doing the exact thing I’m doing so it lets me do all the other stuff I enjoy doing

    Bronson Hill (11:44)
    Yeah, it’s incredible, right? It’s incredible to have the freedom where you can choose, you know, what life do I want to live. And it’s really about creating your future. You know, I think a lot of people are victims of their own circumstances that life’s happening to me, but every successful person I know, you know, most of them have found a way. Actually, my second book is called Rich Brain, How the Wealthy Changed Their Brain to Change Their Bank Accounts. I’m working on that book right now, but it basically, know, Fidelity Investments came out with a study and they found that 86 % of millionaires are self-made.

    Right? So if you think about that, you know, our culture, we, in media, they talk about, it’s the rich and it’s the people with the, you know, the trust fund, those people. like most of those people actually did not come from money. Like almost nine out of 10 did not. And that’s, it’s, it’s, it should be both kind of a little bit shocking, but also like that should be really encouraging, right? That, Hey, no matter where I’m at, I can learn. are learnable teachable skills, right? That I can learn how to be wealthy. And it’s not just having money, but it’s, it’s the, the mindset it’s, it’s the habits that wealthy people do.

    And so I think that should be really encouraging anybody who’s kind of wherever you’re at. mean, if you asked me six years ago, what you have here, you’re going to quit your job, corporate job, you’re making big money and you’re to be replacing the income and doing all this stuff and raising over 50, $60 million. Like I’d be like, you’re crazy, but you know, that’s the way life is. If you just continue to move forward and recreate and reinvent yourself.

    Micah Johnson (13:00)
    Exactly. It reminds me one of my favorite quotes. If you don’t have resources, you got to be resourceful. it is everyone has to be resourceful. Like it’s the one thing I think about my own life. It’s when the hard part comes. OK, so what now? It’s not, man, it’s over. This didn’t work. It’s no. So what’s now? Like what’s OK, that’s OK. Now what? What is the next step? And that’s what I learned from the folks. me. My mentors, the same thing they showed me like, look, man.

    Bronson Hill (13:22)
    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (13:28)
    One thing my mentor says a lot is, Mica, we know exactly what’s coming. We just don’t know when it’s coming. Here’s how you prepare for it. He’s in his later 60s. And I’m just, I appreciate the heck out of it. Cause it’s just like, ⁓ okay. That makes way more sense. And I wasn’t taught financial things growing up. I had come from a pretty weird background story.

    Bronson Hill (13:32)
    Yeah. Yeah. That’s great.

    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (13:48)
    But getting to learn it in my adult life and now having kids of my own, it’s just like, wow, a lot of it wasn’t what I thought it was, right? You think it’s, you do think it’s all, they just got to start ahead and all this stuff, but 99 % is mindset. Man, when I got into personal development about 11 years ago and that light went off, it was just like, my God, life is happening for me.

    Bronson Hill (14:11)
    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (14:13)
    And it’s the way I’m telling myself the story about all the stuff’s happening that’s making me miserable. can literally change my story and change my life and just started living that out, man. And I agree, I’m excited about that book coming out because it truly is here. It’s here’s where you’re wealthy first. And if that wasn’t the case, then all those folks who lose their money from the lottery wouldn’t lose their money if money just made you wealthy. But money’s not just the thing that makes you wealthy. Learning how to keep it.

    Bronson Hill (14:13)
    It’s good.

    Yeah.

    Yeah. Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (14:41)
    And part of that is, man, you’ve got to go through the hard stuff. I was obsessed with golf for a long time. I wanted to be a pro golfer. That was a dream for a while.

    Bronson Hill (14:48)
    Nice.

    That was my dream too when I was in early college. Yeah. I loved it.

    Micah Johnson (14:52)
    Man,

    I fell in love with it. But in the thing I started to notice when I was playing and working with high level coaches and getting to be around like top guys, they didn’t get there by accident. No one, they were never just born and could hit the golf ball good. Like they have worked their rear ends off.

    for millions of swings you never saw. And it was one of the reasons I love golf. It’s a true meritocracy. You can talk trash all you want until you got to put the ball on the tee. And then you got to go play the game. And now we’ll find out how, okay, how good are you? What can you really do? And then learn it in golf. Most of it’s in your head. Once you learn how to swing, now it’s just in your head. Now you got to learn how to stay out of your own way. And…

    Bronson Hill (15:23)
    Yeah.

    See ya.

    Micah Johnson (16:18)
    In that journey, man, it helped me connect a lot of dots in real life. We think professional athletes aren’t a business. They are a business. I think more people should focus on their life like a professional athlete. If you went and saw what they do to be that, you would be the top 0.01 % at what you do too. It is an endless dedication to their skill, constantly learning.

    Bronson Hill (16:42)
    Yeah, absolutely. It’s 100%. You talked about personal development. think personal development is like, the core of everything. And if you want to change anything, I talk to people and go to real estate meetups locally in LA. it’s like, I just share, if you want to change your life, you’ve got to think differently and you’ve got to be willing to make changes. Because it’s very predictable. If I just look at my life, I can pretty much predict the next three to five years what’s going to happen. OK, I’m going to have these same struggles and

    know, finance or relationships, or I’m going to do this, or maybe I’ll go on a vacation, or you can kind of predict it. But if you want to make a dramatic change, you’ve got to think much differently. And the limitations, like there’s no difference between Elon Musk or, you know, Bezos and these really wealthy people, except that they believe they could do it. And they were willing to kind of continue to reinvent themselves. And even Elon, it’s interesting if you listen to him, and he’s not, you he’s not perfect. He’s, you know, a very imperfect guy. But he said something that

    ⁓ He was being interviewed. He’s the richest man in the world. He was interviewed I think in the last year or two and he said, you know, there’s been three times I really seriously, I thought I was gonna lose everything. And he’s like, it still might happen. So it’s kind of like this idea that like, you know, even when you have being willing to tolerate risk, right? They say that sometimes your willingness to tolerate risk in your life is, you know, your ability to be successful. If you’re willing to tolerate the uncertainty, it opens up a lot of things for you.

    Micah Johnson (18:00)
    And when you said that first and then you said that word uncertainty you reminded me of the Virginia satir quote most people prefer the certainty of misery than the misery of uncertainty and when you can embrace that opposite side and Realize like what you just said Elon Musk said nothing’s changed He still experiences life the same exact way the same stress still hits him as it from his first company to everyone he has now his

    Bronson Hill (18:13)
    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (18:30)
    is different, what he gets to play with is different, but that stress is still the same. It’s still that feeling. And he’s just learned how to acclimate as he’s went up. And that’s something I was learning early in career is that ability to have that stress. it is, you have to be able to handle it if you’re going to grow something big because it’s part of it. You have to handle that risk well. Right. A friend of mine, he’s like, man, learning how to spend 300 grand a month in my overhead, that was

    Bronson Hill (18:51)
    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (18:56)
    It took me a bit to get used to that. Now I’m used to it and I don’t mind it. I can see it. I see what it does. Because, you know, in real estate numbers are funny to us. Numbers don’t mean what they used to. They don’t like, whoa, big numbers. Like we talk about big numbers all the time. And then you start seeing them like when they hit that reality, man, okay, now you got to swipe your card for that. Now you got to do this part. it’s and the human struggle of it doesn’t go away. Like that’s what I can encourage anybody.

    Bronson Hill (19:13)
    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    Micah Johnson (19:23)
    All of us still go through the human part. Everyone still feels nervous. Everyone still has bad days. Everyone has the hard things show up. The main difference is how you think about it. Your whole process going through it.

    Bronson Hill (19:34)
    Yeah.

    100%. Yeah, it really is. Robert Kiyosaki wrote the book, Rich Dad Poor Dad. I was in a small room with him once and he was just sharing. was like, ⁓ wealthy is not having money or not having money. It’s being able to lose everything and quickly figure out how to make it all over again. And he just talked about it. he’s been bankrupt, think, twice. Twice he’s lost everything. And now he’s a very wealthy guy. So it’s funny how

    And we’ve had things, we’ve made lots of money in our deals. We’ve had deals that have been absent hormones. We’ve had deals that are total losses, right? And it’s hard to talk about those, but like, you we learned a lot. And sometimes when you get your butt kicked, like, you know, terribly, it’s like, those are the best learning experiences. And so again, that’s what you said, life isn’t happening to you, it’s happening for you. So as an investor, as an individual, as a ⁓ son, a brother, a child of God, whatever your beliefs are like,

    It’s all preparing you for something greater. And I think if you have that approach, you’re going to just keep getting better and better and better. And then all of sudden, you’re going to see opportunities where you never saw them because you’ve committed to growth. You’ve committed to growing. And then these convergences happen where you’re in a situation, and all of a sudden, you see an opportunity that no one else sees. And actually, I was sharing this before we started. had a guy that when I was first starting, this is a question that comes up for people. How do you get started? How do you ramp up? And I was like, how do you go to raise over $50 million? Well, I’d raised $100,000 for a deal. I started a local meetup.

    And I found my first investor there. And for the next six months, I was just trying to, how do I raise more? I couldn’t figure out how to go bigger. And I was at this high ticket event, which I run a mastermind for high net worth investors. This was on a cruise actually. It wasn’t my event, but somebody else’s event. Approached a guy who was wildly successful, who was teaching other people to raise money. And I said, how’s it going for you guys raising money? Is there a way you could kind of help and kind of have these certain things in place? And I just kind of started asking questions, not thinking I was going to do it. But then he said, well, how about, and so we kind of like.

    created this thing together and off that one conversation, Micah, I basically, I made a million dollars off that one conversation, right? I raised $15 million together over the next 18 months while still working my full-time job. I did a thousand one-on-one Zoom calls. mean, some of them were in the car, they were 6 a.m., they were taking Tuesday off and stacking calls all day. But I just think, you know, being in a place where you’re able to add value to others and you’re open to that conversation, you’re gonna see opportunities where other people, they don’t see them.

    Micah Johnson (21:26)
    Wow.

    And it’s a whole mentality. And that’s what happens through personal development as well. You stop being the coolest person you know, and you start feeling a part of something bigger than yourself. Like that feeling right there where it’s, man, I’m participating in something that’s bigger than me. Nothing’s ever lit me up more than that feeling, right? It was one of the best days. Cause then it’s, everything’s way less personal. It’s way easier, honestly, to deal with stuff because it’s not about me. It’s just stuff that happens. I’m not special in any way. It’s just what’s

    going on in my life

    so that I can keep moving forward. And there was one thing we talked about in the pre-call, I want to make sure we get in before we wrap up. And it piggybacks off what you were just talking about about actually approaching successful people. How to approach them and provide value and create those conversations. What would you say to someone who has a question about that?

    Bronson Hill (22:37)
    Well, have a friend who he’s become a friend. has, uh, we kind of connected randomly. This guy has over 4 million followers. He’s kind of a public guy now. I mean, he’s just all doing all kinds of different things. And I was like, well, maybe we could partner together. And again, I’ve approached him in a way that’s just simply, how can I serve this person? I thought, you know, a lot people approach him saying, Hey, what can you give me? Right. Oh, will you mentor me? Will you help me? Will you promote this? We whatever. But I’ve been, I’ve been really trying to say, well, is there a way I can help serve this guy? Is there any way that I can help?

    Micah Johnson (22:58)
    Mmm.

    Bronson Hill (23:05)
    bring value here. And it’s very, it’s really a way to stand apart because most people show up in a networking and they hand out business cards, they shake hands, they talk about what they’re doing. And that’s a terrible way to network, but it’s what everybody does, right? It’s not bad to talk about what you do, but it’s important to like, as I’m talking to you, Micah, I’d say, hey, Micah, tell me what you, and while I’m talking to you, I’m thinking about what you’re saying.

    And I’m thinking, who can I introduce you to? Who’s in the room that I met that also does what you do in real estate or would be a good contact for you? Or is there a book or a resource or a podcast I can just immediately tell you about that would help you? And when you’re that kind of person, people in Warren Buffett says is they will only work with people they like and trust. What builds trust and what’s build likability is when you’re someone who’s giving to other people. in this great book, ⁓ influenced by Robert Cialdini, he says, we have this thing in us called reciprocity.

    that if somebody does something small for us, right, we feel like we have to pay it back. And the brain doesn’t associate with, I’ve had people literally, I send them a book, and then they invest $100,000 in a deal. And it’s like, book was less than 10 bucks, right? I like, I send them a book, and they’re like, and it’s, yeah, exactly, but like, it’s funny, but I didn’t do it necessarily, hey, so this person, but I really say, how can I help this person? Well, I think this would help them, or just being that give first kind of person. So I think,

    Micah Johnson (24:06)
    I’m not the author’s copy.

    Bronson Hill (24:21)
    anybody who wants to get ahead, if you just simply show up to rooms with amazing people and you just really think, how can I help this person? And you come over that actually, don’t go up to somebody and say, hey, how can I help you? That’s like the worst, but like, I’m gonna think, well, I thought about your business and I’m curious how it goes in this area. And if you thought about this, or is this a way could help you here? And it’s like, that’s people do not go to wildly successful people and do much of that. But when you do it, it totally sets you apart. It makes you appear. It makes you a problem solver instead of, this person is more work and wants something from me. And it’s a great way to stand apart.

    Micah Johnson (24:51)
    Man, man, if you’re listening, he just dropped gold for you right there. When you can truly approach it that way with that giving mentality and the secret sauce to that is actually caring. When you’re doing that, you’re actually listening. What Simon Sinek calls letting them empty their bucket. Let people talk and then ask good questions back. You know the value you bring. If it comes up where it’s you, awesome. Like you’re saying, you know other people.

    man, you should go talk to this guy. You should do this right here, because same experience. When you do that for someone that’s achieved those high levels, nobody does that stuff for them. Everybody just wants something. And man, when you can show up and actually give real value.

    A friend of mine did it for, thinking of a story where he sent a guy a gift ⁓ of just uncut $2 bills is what they were. But this guy’s whole thing is the $2 bill slogan. He was a former producer for FX. he had a, he’s produced a bunch of really good shows and my buddy went and saw him and then he sent him this just in a frame and here you go. He had this big impact on me and now they’re friends, right? They’re full on like friends and it’s just like.

    Bronson Hill (25:50)
    Wow.

    Yeah, amazing. Yeah, yeah.

    Micah Johnson (26:03)
    It’s so brilliant when you actually listen and you actually care. And I learned that seat from Dale Carnegie and how to win friends and influence people. He says, look, if you don’t care of this, it’s not gonna work right. The secret is caring. And man, that has led me down more paths to opportunity than any other I’ve ever been on.

    Bronson Hill (26:23)
    Yeah, 100%. It’s just being observant, helping others, helping, you know, do to others you have to do them doing to you. And it’s the idea of like, if I just, you most people do kind of everything. You can’t be like, I’m just gonna give all the time, everybody give everything away. But if you’re just simply saying, hey, can I create value for you? And I know if I can create value for you, there’ll be a way, you don’t create value over time. If somebody says, hey, you’re someone of value, let’s get you in here. Like it just, it’s amazing. And I’ve seen it again and again where people are willing to go to work for free or for…

    just, hey, let’s just do it for something and just see how it goes. And then it opens up to something really great. ⁓ but it gives, gives an opportunity for you to really show up. And again, this is, think one of the biggest things when it comes to real estate business life of just being that, Hey, how can I help you and serve you to people that are more successful and they will lift you up, right? You’re the average of the five people you spend the most time with. So if you want to be more successful, just get around people that have doing more success and find a way to bring value to them.

    Micah Johnson (27:17)
    Right, right man. And that’s as statistically true as it can be. You are the five folks that you’re hanging out with and it requires growth and you can learn a lot from there. Bronson, man, I really appreciated your time, story and perspective today. Thank you for joining me. For those that are listening in, I think you said you had a gift for them, right? That they can go check out.

    Bronson Hill (27:37)
    Yeah, I’ve got a gift for your listeners. put it together. I’m really excited about it. It’s basically my three favorite investments of 2026. so it’s just a ⁓ guide of these are the three things I’m most excited about. And so I don’t know who really talked about them on this show, so you just text the word all one word CASHFLOW to 33777, that’ll ask for email your name, it’ll send it to you, and then it’ll also keep you in touch on future deals and stuff we’re working on as well.

    Micah Johnson (28:00)
    I we didn’t get to the 2026 stuff. got deep into another part of the conversation, but I think it was important. Again, thanks so much for being with us. For those listening in out there, if you got value from today’s episode, don’t forget to like this episode. Share it with someone else that you might think get value as well. Make sure you check the show notes. We’ll have that information that Bronson gave us for you to text. Get that free gift. Take advantage of what he’s excited about for this upcoming year from, again, I always say this when you learn from folks who are doing it well, who have the right

    heart, the right mentality and a great track record. So take advantage of that resource. As always, please don’t forget to subscribe. We appreciate every single one of you that joined us along the way. We have more conversations coming up with operators just like Bronson out there building a real business in the industry. Thanks for joining us. We’ll see you soon.

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