Graphene Concrete Homes, Off-Grid Communities & A Lifetime of Deals with Garson Silvers

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In this conversation, Garson Silvers shares his extensive journey in real estate, from his early experiences in Texas to his current focus on sustainable and socially conscious investments. He discusses the impact of personal loss on his career direction, the importance of sustainability in real estate, and innovative building technologies that can help communities. Garson emphasizes the need for resilience in the face of climate change and his commitment to making a positive impact through his work.

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Garson (00:00)
after Hurricane Ike I bought a marina in two other sites and my marina got wiped off the face of the earth. I lost my wife to postpartum depression 45 days after Hurricane Ike. The SBA said they were help and no one helped and the stress got to her.

and she had postpartum depression and we had post-traumatic stress and I lost her to postpartum depression and that’s the nicest way to say it. ⁓ And that even pushed me more on my green path, my sustainable path because climate change is real. We have to be prepared for it. What I’m doing right now, I there I was doing design build on high rises on the waterfront by the Johnson Space Center.

I went through the whole design build process and here comes Hurricane Ike who washes our shit away. ⁓

Sustainability, being off the grid living is important to me because it wasn’t the hurricane that got her. It was the stress of being in an area that had been wiped out. mean, literally a 20 foot storm surge came through our marina on Clear Lake. And, you know, she left me with a two year old and a five year old. So I began to write about sustainability. My in-laws bribed me to move

back to California, which I did, but sustainability was dear to my mom, being an environmentalist, being a good steward of the land. ⁓ So now I’m in the process of acquiring a construction company that has resilient, fortified, sustainable homes made out of cement infused with graphene.

Dylan Silver (03:21)
Hey folks, welcome back to the show. Today’s guest, Garson Silvers, is a real estate broker and investor who’s now looking at investments that have a social conscious component to them. Garson, welcome to the show.

Garson (03:37)
Good morning, how you doing?

Dylan Silver (03:38)
It’s great to have you on here. I’m doing well. Thank you for coming on the show here today I always like to start off at the top by asking guests, you know how they got into real estate

Garson (03:49)
Well, let’s go to the beginning. My stepfather had a management company and was doing apartments in Houston, Texas. ⁓ I actually, even before then, at a high school career opportunity thing, ⁓ a broker came and was talking to the class. And I went to a special school that was kind of like Montessori, work at your own pace, kind of for

I don’t say bad kids, but kids hard to handle. And I worked, I worked at my father’s restaurant and grew up in the wine business. And this broker came in and I was working at my father’s restaurant at that time. So I’d go to work before school, I’d get out of school early and go work in the kitchen. And this guy came in and he says, I can work whenever I want. I make my own schedule.

And I make big money at a time and everybody needs a place to live. And I’m like, okay, that sounds smart. I started, and I finished high school half a year early, because it was kind of like a Montessori school. And I took, my mom was teaching at that time at Houston Community College, so I figured I’ll take a real estate class. And I took a real estate class and it was at night school.

It was couple nights a week and this isn’t bad. So I went up to college at a place called Southwest Texas State University. And it was in San Marcos, Texas between ⁓ Austin and San Antonio.

And the first house I bought was on a river and it was on the Blanco River. Made a beautiful rope swing in the backyard. And I figured, you know, cause my grandparents had left me a little bit to go to college on and

I think I spent one semester in the dorm. I didn’t like this communal living too much. was the jokes and the smells. In Texas, they would go deer hunting and slaughtered in the showers. I talked my mother and stepfather into buying a house so we wouldn’t be throwing the money away on rent.

Dylan Silver (06:56)
Yeah, that’s nuts.

Garson (07:08)
And it was a half acre on the Blanco River with rope swing and a deep swimming hole there, and it was paradise.

Dylan Silver (07:16)
want

to ask you actually a question about that ⁓ property if I may. So going to school at what is now Texas State, ⁓ You had the idea, hey, let’s not throw away the money on rent. I’ve said this to many people that if you’re going to be living in this metro or outside of a metro, wherever you’re going to school, you’re going to be there for four or five years, even if you’re there three years,

Garson (07:24)
Yeah, Texas State University.

I got closer to six years. So yes.

Dylan Silver (07:44)
You were there six years. Chances are you’re gonna see the property that you’re in appreciated. Now there’s no guarantee, there’s no guarantee, but over a five year period, if you’re in an area outside of a major metro or in a major metro, you have a good likelihood that your property is gonna appreciate. I’m surprised more people don’t look at this, because you’re gonna be spending so much money on rent.

Hey.

Garson (08:12)
I

was able to talk most of my friends parents into buying houses. had my license, I got a job working for a property management company there named Skyles and he’s still there. you know, sometimes I think it would have been a much more simpler life if I would have stayed there. But Skyles ran all the apartments. So I got to lease apartments and meet everybody, you know, in the beginning of the year and I made enough money.

Dylan Silver (08:17)
Yeah.

Garson (08:39)
during that lease up period like the month before school started to carry me through lot of the times.

Dylan Silver (08:48)
Do you know, do you know Garcin if they

had the outlets in San Marcos then or was that years later?

Garson (08:53)
No, they built those about the time I was leaving. The outlet malls, yeah.

Dylan Silver (08:56)
Hey, so

what was San Marcos like then? Was it very rural?

Garson (09:01)
It was a nice quiet college town. The college was the main business. you know, was just a, you know, it was great. And people, you know, you’d go floating on the river and inner tubes and we could go floating right up to behind our house on the Blanco. You had the Blanco and the San Marcos River, which were both just pristine at that time. That was, you know, back in the eighties and ⁓

where I lived was kind of rural. My property was on River Road and there was nothing out there. There was maybe a dozen or two homes. And they had Jerry Job Corps across the river from us at the old Camp Gary. ⁓ It was really a nice life. It was a wonderful journey. And I got really in tuned with nature there because

I had my little half acre on the river and I was a steward. one of, you know, later on I learned, actually I heard that comment several times in my career that we really don’t own anything. It’s the banks, it’s the government, you pay taxes, you pay, you know, your mortgage. And so we’re just stewards of a land and we pay to be that steward. You know, some people are lucky enough to pay their things off.

But for the most part, I had this beautiful river property and we had a giant catfish that lived under the reciprocating tree where the rope swing was. We could catch them and eat them, but we kept them as a friend. ⁓

Dylan Silver (11:11)
I want to ask you about ⁓ real estate being a focal point and at what point in time did you decide, hey, this is what I’m going to do with my life. Did you know when you were at?

Garson (11:21)
I

know when I went to college that’s what I wanted to do with my life. I had two opportunities when I went to college. I was real good in math and I could have gone to UT and been an aerospace engineer, but I couldn’t find an apartment. And that was one of the key turning points. There wasn’t enough apartments in Austin, places to rent to accommodate a place to stay. And so I decided to go to Southwest Texas.

And my, as said, my stepfather was in the real estate. I’d already been, my parents had had rental properties and I’d fix seats and you know, bathroom showers so it wouldn’t leak and learn how to be, try to keep it a sustainable business because if you know, your water bill gets out of hand or whatever, you gotta be on top of things. So I learned some simple trades going up.

And actually I walked onto my first construction site when I was 15. I went and bought a tool belt and a hammer and they were building some homes in Houston near my two blocks away. And I said, I’ll go get a job as a helper. And so I’d learned something. So I kind of knew, you know, it’s, I can go back even a little farther. One of my, my aunt Diane,

married a man named Joe Ravitch who was, I think he was an architect and then became a developer in New York. And I remember he helped me build a log cabin once and we had all the toys, you you had the Lincoln logs, you had the Rector sets, you had the Legos. So I grew up with some of that and I like building and I like creating. And so the earth, if we’re a good steward and

or have little bit of artistic skills, it’s a great canvas to create your own life or reality.

Dylan Silver (13:13)
Right, right. I want to pivot a bit here, Garcin, and ask you about moving out to Beverly Hills, right? So I imagine there were some steps along the way before that happened, but when after you got out of school, first 10, 15 years before. Okay, yeah.

Garson (13:27)
I moved here before I got out of school. It’s kind of good story. ⁓

Southwest Texas is a very fun life. is a great ratio of girls to guys. ⁓ When I was 23, I think I was in my third or fourth year there, ⁓ I got married. ⁓

So that was part of it. And then my father had moved out there. He had been in the wine business most of his career and he had a backer that ⁓ owned a savings and loan, Mercury Mylum, a J.B. Harrelson. And J.B. moved him out here to be a consultant on buying vineyards. So I had about one more and ⁓ in between them when I was in college, I did get my broker’s license.

Dylan Silver (14:08)
Hmm.

Garson (14:17)
I worked for Scowls most of the time, one of my uncles introduced me to a wildcatter who was an oil man. He was a young guy, he was about 28. I was 19 at the time. I stayed out of college a year and that’s why I said I was up there six years. I ended up putting my sister and her husband into my river house and I went to work for Jeff.

I was like his gopher or his right hand. I went and found a ranch for him because this guy had struck a bunch of oil wells in a row. And he was an architect actually by, he went to Texas A &M, became an architect. And my uncle met him on an airplane and he needed a guide to Houston. And I got a job because he was moving his business from Midland, Odessa to Houston, Texas. And he needed someone who could be his guide to the city.

And it was just fate that here I am, 19 years old, I get a job working for a guy who’s 28 years old, who’s like ⁓ J.E. Cardham, know, Jed Clampett. He’d made his money hitting oil and the Austin chalk. And, you know, I helped him buy a ranch. Boom, big money. And what else did I do for him? office space.

And he had me proofreading drilling leases. And then I started doing like land man work. I went out to farmers and talked them into letting us come explore their ground. So we’d make a deal with them, you know, give them little land bonus. I think it was like $500 an acre and they’d get an eighth or a sixteenth or something like that royalty and they get paid and we’d have to put it back the way it was. And that was a very important thing I learned

Dylan Silver (15:54)
Right, right.

Garson (16:44)
You can go in and drill on someone’s farm or ranch. You put it back the way you found it. Unless you find them a lot of, unless you find them oil, which we did. mean, Jeff hit like 28 wells and you we’d have to put tanks on it and you know, a little bit of road and you you always had to make a pond that collected all the shitty material, you know, the contaminants and we’d usually put a, a,

lining down so it wouldn’t leach into the soil. And so sometimes I’d get to run out there when they hit a well or I’d take them out drilling bits from Houston. Because most of the wells he hit were in what’s called the Austin Chalk, which was in like Gonzales and ⁓ Goliad and Schuylenburg and that central Texas region. So I got to learn that.

part of real estate. got to drive down these old dirt road to find farms and ranches to go talk to people. And I’d have to go to the old county seats before they had all this electronic title work. And you’d meet the county clerks and say, I want to find out this property and this property is offsetting it. And how do I find this neighbor? And it was all down at the county courthouses.

Dylan Silver (17:57)
Was there one segment of real estate ⁓ that you were particularly focused on or were you working across multiple segments?

Garson (18:06)
Well, the main thing that’s

always paid me is leasing, whether it was leasing apartments in college or properties. And then while I was leasing, Texas was booming. was the oil thing. So guess who got to go do due diligence for developers? I’d find them the sites. I’d make sure it was entitled, go through the whole process.

Dylan Silver (18:28)
as you.

Garson (18:35)
That was my big sale. That was the mammoth. But while I was chasing those big mammoth development deals, I had to eat. So we had to catch rabbits and those were leasing the apartments. I’d make anywhere from a half to a month’s rent when I leased out an apartment. ⁓ So I ate well. ⁓ But sometimes…

During the end of the semester I would have to go start delivering pizzas because I wasn’t leasing any apartments and I didn’t manage my money right. I spent it as a medic, made it, but it was a good life. Also during that time, you take what you can get when you’re in college. I ended up working for this guy who worked for his brother and his brother would buy ranches and subdivide them.

Dylan Silver (19:06)
There’s no more apart.

Garson (19:28)
into little ranchettes that they put trailers on surrounding San Marcos. So I learned to work heavy equipment. I learned about subdivisions. I learned about some water rights and wells. And you you could have five people on one well. And if you went over five and you got to, you know, go get permits from the Texas Department of Natural Resources or, know, so I learned from everyone. just kind of sucked it in, trying to

I wanted to learn about real estate and that was really my goal. So I got to learn about helping developers build apartments. I got to learn about helping developers subdivide land into smaller parcels and then sell it and finance it. I moved from, got me moved from, I’m trying to be politically correct here, from San Marcos to Beverly Hills is my father.

Dylan Silver (19:57)
Yeah.

Garson (20:22)
was out here in California. had about a semester to go. I was already on an extended plan because I quit college in the middle to go work for the oil man. Oh, and the oil man sent me to Australia for three months. I imported five drilling rigs to Australia. And the biggest thing on TV was Dallas, I was JRUing, I’m working for a guy named J.E. Carter.

And I made application to import five drilling rigs and at the time there was only 19 drilling rigs on the continent. So I was in high demand. I I was getting romance by banks and ⁓ mineral exploration companies and developer, know, whoever was in the land business wanted those drilling rigs. And at that time you had to make a 51 % ownership deal with ⁓ Australia.

Dylan Silver (21:17)
Nope.

Garson (21:17)
You

you had to partner with your locals. You just couldn’t, they were keeping the big boys out. And so I went there and I was cutting deals and you know, wearing my suit and my cowboy boots and met all kinds of beautiful women. And then I went back to college and, yeah. Oh, it was, but

Dylan Silver (21:23)
Wow.

It’s tough to go back after that.

Garson (21:40)
The guy I for sold out to United Camp So. And actually I got to meet Leon Jaworski from Watergate fame because he was representing, I think he was representing the guy I worked for, or United Camp So, I don’t remember which thing, but I got to be the fly on the wall and see that deal negotiated. And they were real happy to buy him out because of his oil wells.

Dylan Silver (21:58)
Yeah, amazing.

Garson (22:05)
that he had flowing and also because of the deals I struck in Canada because they wanted to get into that market. So it was all, you know, the grace of God and divine providence. And I went back to school and I had money at school. So that was a fun thing. And I had a house. I moved into my sister because she’d been living in the river house with her husband. And ⁓

I say there was a big women to men ratio there and I had a good time. And we, and we’d have big parties in my, in the backyard. What?

Dylan Silver (22:37)
You didn’t

miss Australia too much is what you’re saying.

Garson (22:40)
Oh I did. Australia was one of the greatest adventures of my life. The Bank of Western Australia had big luncheon for the American 6th Fleet and they gave me a better seat than the Admiral and they sent me next to Miss Universe.

Dylan Silver (22:55)
That’ll make anybody miss Australia, yeah.

Garson (22:58)
Yeah, it’s like, ⁓ wow, this is very cool. And the people were very nice to me because I had my Texas accent going. I had guys that would shut down their surf shop to take me surfing when they found out I was from Texas. Let’s take you, come on. It’s like you’re shutting down your business to go surfing with me. So it was quite the life. It was quite the adventure, the journey.

Dylan Silver (23:14)
guys.

Yeah, thank you.

Now,

Garson, we are coming up on time here. I do want to ask you, I know you’re involved in so much now with a social conscious component. How can folks learn more about what you’re doing these days? Maybe how could they reach out to you or your team?

Garson (23:27)
but it always had real estate in it. ⁓

Okay.

Okay real quickly, short story,

after Hurricane Ike I bought a marina in two other sites and my marina got wiped off the face of the earth. I lost my wife to postpartum depression 45 days after Hurricane Ike. The SBA said they were help and no one helped and the stress got to her.

and she had postpartum depression and we had post-traumatic stress and I lost her to postpartum depression and that’s the nicest way to say it. ⁓ And that even pushed me more on my green path, my sustainable path because climate change is real. We have to be prepared for it. What I’m doing right now, I there I was doing design build on high rises on the waterfront by the Johnson Space Center.

I went through the whole design build process and here comes Hurricane Ike who washes our shit away. ⁓

Sustainability, being off the grid living is important to me because it wasn’t the hurricane that got her. It was the stress of being in an area that had been wiped out. mean, literally a 20 foot storm surge came through our marina on Clear Lake. And, you know, she left me with a two year old and a five year old. So I began to write about sustainability. My in-laws bribed me to move

back to California, which I did, but sustainability was dear to my mom, being an environmentalist, being a good steward of the land. ⁓ So now I’m in the process of acquiring a construction company that has resilient, fortified, sustainable homes made out of cement infused with graphene.

And when you put graphene in

cement, makes it 20 % lighter, 100 % stronger, and every square foot of it can hold between 3 7 kilowatts. I’ve had it under contract for a while, negotiating it. I got contracts in Dominican Republic. We can go exercise through a contractor friend of mine, Craig Danto. There’s about 600 homes currently that we can go build in Puerto Rico.

Out here in LA, ⁓ you had 18,000 homes destroyed by the fires. This is Cal Fire approved. The buildings that made it through the fires and the palisades were Tom Hanks’ home, a synagogue, both made of concrete.

the Permastron Form System, I can make a house look like whatever I want with cement with the system I have. can make it look like wood panels, can make it look like brick, can make it look like cobblestone or stucco, but it still has that resilient fortified aspect of being cement fiberboard forms that stay in place that are infused with graphene. Allure, think, is the company that makes

Elementra is the company that makes the panels for us. And then there’s a special coupling spacer that you put the rebar in and you put your conduit and your plumbing through. And you can do a concrete roof or you can do a pre-engineered wood or steel trusses for your roof. But the main thing is you got to be fireproof. And these are also earthquake proof. You can’t say proof, resistant.

Dylan Silver (27:23)
Yeah.

Garson (27:23)
It’s resistance and then then you know these have been tested for cat 5 or a Dade County approved their state of Florida building Approved building code approved. They’ve been tested in Texas Tech wind tunnels for f4 and f5 tornadoes Even you know with being close to Cuba the what is it called the Havana syndrome?

EMPs won’t go through the walls with graphene in it. Yeah, I mean you still have your openings, your glass doors, your doors and what not, but you gotta have resilient fortified homes and they gotta be off the grid because that’s why I lost my wife to suicide, the stress of dealing with the calamity after the catastrophe.

Dylan Silver (27:54)
Whoa.

Yeah, just goes on and on. ⁓

Garson (28:18)
So that’s

really my passion and then my other passion and I have a deal going right now with a company called My Mushroom. And this is like a full circle story. The first property, not the first, but I was in a partnership, I went from doing homes in Beverly Hills and working with developers and commercial leasing, my first wife, she got tired of me in LA.

to Houston with my children. So I moved back to Houston and I worked for guy who had one time probably the paper or contract for deeds on 40,000 homes in Houston all in the hood. And I got him into doing junk commercial property because I didn’t like dealing with that level of residential. And I bought a farm from the federal marshal and the farm had been taken and it was in Tombaugh, Texas.

Dylan Silver (29:02)
Yeah.

Garson (29:09)
And in order to get a conventional loan on it, I had to loan first with Jack and it wasn’t a conventional loan. He was a hard money guy. I got a loan from B of A and B of A would not take more than 10 acres with a house. So I had to divide off four acres and I called it Mushroom Enterprises because it was kind of swampy up there in Tomball. But right now I’m dealing with a company called Mice Room and they have mushrooms.

They grow them in a clean room lab that have helped your cell to cell communication and has your body make their own stem cells. And so it can help people through nutrition overcome diseases like cancer, diabetes, and things like that. And actually I’m using them now and they’ve helped with, I’m diabetic, the neuropathy in my hands has gone away and I’ve been doing them for about two months.

Dylan Silver (29:44)
Okay

Garson (30:02)
The way I met with them was through another doctor out here and they want to build a 200,000 square foot clean room grow facility on my property. The reason Dr. Vaughan put us together was I had a plan to do climate control greenhouses with hydroponic grow towers in it. I’ve been working on that for a while because I want to feed people. I’ve done a lot of work in India. I’m published in books.

Dylan Silver (30:11)
Wow.

Garson (30:28)
like the Global Sustainable Community Handbook. ⁓ I sit on Beverly Hills Technology Committee when it was active, hasn’t been active lately, which is sad because they have a lot of technology here. But ⁓ we have homes we’ve designed, me and my partner, and Vid Jofre, that are off the grid. They’re like ADUs. You know what an ADU is? Additional Dwelling Unit. We call them ⁓ ZMUs.

These are off-the-grid housing that you can put in the middle of the field and you’re good to go. They make their own water, they make their own electricity, they have water management systems where nothing’s wasted. ⁓ We were making those in India. The real estate journey has taken me a lot of places, which doesn’t make a lot of sense because I learned to own your block or own your area like San Marcos.

Dylan Silver (31:01)
Wow.

Garson (31:24)
commercial office leasing in Beverly Hills. And I came here because my wife didn’t like being in San Marcos because I had too many old girlfriends there.

Dylan Silver (31:31)
Hey, that happens.

Garson (31:32)
So we came out to California and I was helping my dad for little bit to find vineyards for JB Harrison who had a mortgage company and I got a friend of mine a job doing the packaging of mortgages into HUD bonds or to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds. So I got to learn that aspect of real estate, the back end of real estate of the secondary market of notes.

And I applied and I got a job from a guy at a company called Buckeye. Buckeye owned about 14 buildings in Beverly Hills, two in West Hollywood on Sunset Boulevard, and one downtown, and four in the Valley, medical buildings. And I was their in-house leasing guy. And I competed with this one woman, Marja Dean, an old actress, who was, she got to take the calls and I had to go out canvassing. So I met.

I got thrown out of the best buildings in Beverly Hills canvassing. You couldn’t do that job today because of all the electronics and security. But back then I got to meet all kinds of people. met doctors, I met ⁓ people in the entertainment business, I met titans of industry, you Beverly Hills. you know, Donald Sterling was one of our tenants. ⁓ Don Cornelius was one of my tenants. ⁓

Dylan Silver (32:30)
Sure.

good.

Garson (32:53)
Danny DeVito and Michael Douglas when they were doing their, know, tell of you Stone or whatever it was, movies. I got to meet all kinds of people. Art Linkletter, Sammy Davis, ⁓ Kurt Vonnegut. ⁓

Dylan Silver (33:06)
Yeah.

That could happen in Beverly Hills, right?

Garson (33:10)
Yeah, Ray Bradbury. I’d wander into her office. You never know whose office you were wandering into. So I met all these really accomplished people. L. Ron Hubbard’s daughter. You know, you just never knew. All different types of people. So I got to meet all these people and I’d wander in and talk to them. They didn’t like my Texas accent too much. They told me to lose the accent and I’d go,

what accents, you know, and it’s so all this has gone into what makes me today and my thing I really love is alternative energy and you know I say the drilling business was a little bit of my dark age because that wasn’t being we tried to do is be as good as through it as we can but I have a dear friend Al Moir who has who’s building

Dylan Silver (33:39)
That’s right.

Garson (34:05)
solar farms in the Central Valley here. So, I’ve helped them with that. that’s real estate too, because you gotta find the right land, you gotta have right interconnects, you gotta have the right electricity. so, right now, everything I do has to have a social conscious purpose. Making the world a better place. Making the world, I get job offers too, and a lot of them wanna do green development.

I’m kind of an expert. I’ve built a sustainable micro township in India. Here you’d call it a planned urban development mixed with a spiritual retreat. There it’s a sustainable micro township and the business is medical and spiritual healing. So I’ve done everything you can imagine in real estate, which is good for someone who’s a little AD. I know how to juggle four or five deals at a time. And that’s what was taught to me by

Dylan Silver (34:48)
Wow.

Garson (34:59)
Ray Kaufman, was a great guy who ran ⁓ Buckeye to a certain extent. It was also George Conheim and Bram Goldsmith who started City National Bank who were also the founders of Buckeye. Herb Schaeffer was the accountant. He was kind of hard to deal with. And Dick Jampel was the architect. But these guys, they were my mentors, man. They taught me. And I learned and sucked it in like a sponge. And I butted heads with them too because

Dylan Silver (35:13)
Right.

Garson (35:27)
You know, I’m brutally honest. And in the 45 years of real estate, I’ve never been sued for any deal I’ve been involved in. Now I’ve been sued on fighting the big banks on properties I owned in Houston when my wife committed suicide and we had bars protection insurance and B of A just didn’t want to acknowledge that. And then they sold it off to someone and sold it off to someone. And I still have my farm.

Dylan Silver (35:35)
Hey, that’s amazing. Yeah.

Garson (35:55)
After 17 years, I haven’t been able to take it from me.

Dylan Silver (35:57)
Garson, are coming up on time here. I want to thank you for coming on the show today. Thank you for sharing your story. And then also, what an amazing, ⁓ really, ⁓ career in the real estate space. Everything from San Marcos and that first property when you were at school to these international deals to then all the amazing people that you got to meet out there in your neck of the woods. But thank you.

Garson (36:22)
Well I come back to Houston too,

I have projects in the hood, I try to keep my roots planted there and we’re going to grow over mushrooms on the farm which will save people’s lives. It’s real estate, you never know where it’s going lead you because you’ve to learn a little bit about everybody’s business you’re working for.

Dylan Silver (36:41)
That’s right. Thank you, Garson.

Garson (36:43)
Thank you.

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