From CPA to Real Estate Investor: Building Passive Cash Flow After Losing It All

Mathew Owens, CPA (00:00)
It really, what it taught me was how to maintain emotional control when there’s chaos, because it doesn’t help you to have that emotional reaction and, and, and focus on the negativity. I have one story when I first flipped my first 12 unit building where I totally underestimated the renovation and I was supposed to make $200,000 and I ended up losing 50,000. And I told my wife,

put your hand on my chest. Like I can’t breathe right now. I just lost the salary and I was in this negative spiral. And I was like, mentally, like just I’d lost a salary that day.

Quentin Edmonds (01:15)
Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Real Estate Pros podcast. I am your host, Q Edmonds. and I am excited to be here today. I know I say that all the time at the beginning of every intro is always true. But today, you know, this one is, it’s a little special for me. And I’ll tell you why it’s most of the time as the host, I am the one that’s more creating the environment for people to, you know, to hold space for them to be able to talk about what they want to talk about.

But it’s like immediately when me and this gentleman started talking, I felt like he was holding space for me. I felt myself very relaxed, very calm and very centered. And so there’s a lot of alignment. If you guys been tuning into me, y’all kind of know how my flow goes with this podcast. This gentleman may not know, but y’all know. And he’s going to see, y’all going to see that he’s like the perfect fit for this pod. And so I’m so excited. I’m not going to, listen.

He was giving me his credentials. I just stopped writing because he just kept going and going and he’d go in so many different spaces. I just, I just stopped and I was like, I’m just gonna let him tell the people everything that he does. And so I’m so excited to introduce you all to Mr. Mathew Owens. Mr. Mathew , how you doing today, sir?

Mathew Owens, CPA (02:25)
Pretty good, man. Thank you so much for having me. Super excited to be here, man, and just add value any way I possibly can.

Quentin Edmonds (02:30)
Man, yeah, man, I’m excited for you to be here too. And I want to show them that I wasn’t given hyperbole. So this is what I want to do, man. I’m the type I like to dive right in, right? So I would love for you to just tell the people, what’s your main focus these days? If you don’t mind, give us a little bit of an origin story, kind of how you got into the space that you’re in. We would love to know that. And then, tell them what part of the world you’re in, geographically. People love to know where people are. So what you’re up to, origin story, and where you are.

Mr. Mathew , sir, you have the floor.

Mathew Owens, CPA (02:59)
Awesome. Thank you so much, man. I really appreciate it. So I’m based out in Southern California. I call it communism out here, but you know, it is what it is. Lots of taxes and things like that, of course. But I have a couple of kids out here. I have an 11-year-old son and an eight-year-old daughter and been with my wife for over 20 years now and just having some amazing time raising them. I don’t think I’ve been happier in my life since having the kids and things like that being able to, even though it’s hard, of course, but

Quentin Edmonds (03:10)
You

Mathew Owens, CPA (03:28)
being able to do that has been amazing, right? So, you know, I started off, I’m a full-time real estate investor ⁓ and I started off in 2006. I was actually a CPA. I’m still a CPA, but I was working for a CPA firm, working, you know, 60 hours a week, just especially during taxis. I want him to bang my head against the computer because it was just boring, monotonous stuff doing taxes and audit. And I, you know, I got to see the inner workings of businesses and stuff, but at the end of the day,

I was in a lot of pain. remember wanting to cry going to work, just being like, I can’t do this for 40 years and I needed a way out. I basically said, I had a stepbrother come to me and say, hey, you gotta come take a look at these real estate courses. I’m gonna come check them out with me. And I was like gonna flake on them, of course. I was like, yeah, I’ll be there, of course. And so then he calls me the day of and makes me go. And I was immediately hooked on.

multiple strategies and the energy of the room of lot of the real estate investors in the room. And I ended up getting my first cut my first deal under contract ⁓ in 2006 and quit my CPA firm job immediately. And ⁓ I went into real estate in 06. ⁓ So I actually we started flipping houses. I did everything wrong. I got an office at the World Trade Center in Long Beach.

California on the 23rd floor, you know, went into business with two step brothers of mine that were computer programmers and electrical engineers. And I’m the CPA that’s supposed to be able to sell stuff, you know, and have a personality, right? And at the end of the day, you know, I thought it was dope because my books were done and we’re flipping houses and you know, I have a 790 credit score and never missed a payment in my life. And then all of a sudden the lending market stopped when the 2000 and I’ll say seven, eight or six, seven, eight crash occurred.

⁓ and, ⁓ my ego got destroyed. ended up losing everything at that time and not being able to pay my bills, went into BK, lost all of my money and everything that I had, ⁓ built and my ego and just hunkered down and said, you know what, I could go back to a CPA firm and try to get a job, or I can just keep pushing. And I went and hunkered down, ⁓ work from home, had 30 grand of my name and that was it.

Quentin Edmonds (05:33)
Mmm.

Mathew Owens, CPA (06:25)
What I did though is I took out a bunch of money on my credit cards, tried to float the ship, paid all my investors back so they didn’t take the hit. And then I took the hit for them. And by doing that, they all reinvested with me and were able to start from scratch. And I just basically took the bullets for my investors at that time ⁓ and lost everything. I thought I was doing the, I was super scared to lose their money and.

immediately just jumped in and you know since then we’ve flipped over thousand houses now we’ve lent out over 500 million dollars and we’ve raised over 200 million in private equity for private investment deals and we do a lot of different asset classes from long-term rentals short-term rentals multifamily mobile home parks ⁓ all different types that side and then we also lend money and invest in lending we invest in accounts receivable financing

We own different businesses. I own a cannabis farm even. We diversify into all different strategies because I really think the whole goal is to diversify into multiple asset classes, multiple markets, and multiple operators where you don’t have to be the operator all the time to really develop that base passive cashflow stream and putting small amounts of money into multiple like that really gives you that diversity. But you have to control.

your wealth that way and build the right financial foundation first before you can move forward. And so that’s really my story and what’s happened. I took a major hit. I’ve lost money in, you know, multiple times throughout that. You can imagine after flipping a thousand houses, I know a thousand ways to lose money on a house now, you know, so, but, but there’s all different great strategies out there. If you understand and get the right education first.

and have the right mentors in place and have the right systems in place and operating like a true business. And you can really build a massive amount of wealth and build it to where you get the time freedom. You have the location freedom and the financial freedom that you really want.

Quentin Edmonds (08:25)
man, Mathew , thank you so much. Listen, I tried to do it again. I was trying to write as you was talking, right? This is your page, So I’m trying to write as you talk again. I just had to stop. was like, OK, OK, stop. But ⁓ one of my strong points that I did not realize throughout my life is that I love to archive information. ⁓ That’s something that I love to do and I love to pull from my archive brain.

Mathew Owens, CPA (08:26)
So lots of stuff, man.

Quentin Edmonds (08:52)
And so I’m always actively listening. so because I actively listen, what I have kind of done with this podcast is I will do a quick summary of kind of what you told me. I’ll make a statement and then ask you a question. Because what I’ve realized with the way I archive information, sometimes reflecting back and looking at the road that you journeyed sometimes really helps you where you are right now.

Mathew Owens, CPA (09:17)
Mm-hmm.

Quentin Edmonds (09:17)
Sometimes, you you made me going so fast, you didn’t recognize the signs. You know, you’re like, did you see that sign over there? You know, they said, you know, if we took this detour, we can eat this restaurant. And you’re like, no, I didn’t, I didn’t see it, you know, because I was in my own world listening to music or whatever. But sometimes if you can slow it down and reflect, you’ll see how the signs kind of made sense. And you kind of, it kind of was helping you along your journey even if you didn’t realize it, right? So I’m going to do a quick summary. I’m going to make a statement and I’m going to absolutely love.

asking you this question, my guy. I’m going to love asking you this question. All right. So two kids with your wife, who have you been with over 20 years? I that alone, I’m on my second one. After 15 years, I tapped out the first time. So man, bro, salute. And you said this is the happiest time of your life is raising your kids. Happiest time of your life. 2006, she was a CPA.

I believe you said you was working over 60 hours a week, right? Doing taxes, got born and got monotonous. And so what does this note? you said you couldn’t do this for like another 20 years. You might even say 40 years, but it was like, yeah, yeah, I can’t, no, no. So, you know, somebody reached out to you, talked about class, talked about real estate. You got hooked on it. In 06, you went into real estate and man, was doing well.

Mathew Owens, CPA (10:24)
40 years, yeah, right.

Quentin Edmonds (10:36)
I think by your own admission, know, for the first year, first year and half, he was a genius. And then 2007, 2008 came out, you you had a 790 credit score, but that crash, you lost everything. Bankruptcy was right there. And you said, man, should I go back to being a CPA or should I hunker down? Had 30 grand to your name, you hunkered down. And now, man, I had to stop. So one thing I got was you let out, you guys have lent out over 500 million.

but you was throwing out stuff and I was just like, all right, I’m stopping. So for the most part, was that a good summary, sir, of what you said?

Mathew Owens, CPA (11:07)
Hahaha!

Yeah, and I think one of the biggest key points and the takeaway that I think a lot of people should recognize is that that instance when I was looking back to say, should I go back to the CPA firm or should I hunker down and push through that right there is what made me successful is pushing forward with the grit to be able to push that forward. And I learned that not at that instance. I learned that in future hits that I’ve taken where a contractor stole five hundred grand from us, where a business partner stealing, where

You know, I had foreclosures happening and things like that. That’s when I learned it. When I had to say, forget it, put the emotional side, let it wipe it off my shoulder. And let me focus on solutions to that problem and moving that forward. If you write down 50 solutions, all of a sudden that stress, all of a sudden goes away and you can say, I got options. Let me focus on this. And so that piece I think was really important because I think that’s what makes or breaks you from a success standpoint at the end of the day is

Quentin Edmonds (12:35)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mathew Owens, CPA (12:44)
that grid and saying, I don’t care. just took a punch. I’m stepping back up and going forward again, you know, so.

Quentin Edmonds (12:50)
Absolutely.

So listen, you may have to repeat that all over again because you stole my thunder. I was leading you somewhere. was trying to be this really introspective host. No, but I’ll still listen. I’m going to make the statement, ask you the question. You may repeat a lot what you just said, or you may even give me a whole other angle. But this is the statement that I make most podcasts, Mr. Mathew . I say destiny has no wasted moments.

Mathew Owens, CPA (12:55)
I’m sorry.

Alright, sorry.

Yeah, cool.

Quentin Edmonds (13:17)
Destiny has no wasted moments. I mean, you pretty much synthesize what the meaning is, right? Like along the journey, we pull from every moment and it reinforces our mindset. It gives us our why, gives us our purpose. And so, man, I would love to know the journey, along the journey, the moments, what have they taught you about yourself?

Mathew Owens, CPA (13:17)
That’s a good statement. There’s a reason for all of it.

Mm-hmm.

Quentin Edmonds (13:41)
that they taught you resilience, discipline. Man, what has the moments taught you,

Mathew Owens, CPA (13:44)
It really, what it taught me was how to maintain emotional control when there’s chaos, because it doesn’t help you to have that emotional reaction and, and, and focus on the negativity. I have one story when I first flipped my first 12 unit building where I totally underestimated the renovation and I was supposed to make $200,000 and I ended up losing 50,000. And I told my wife,

put your hand on my chest. Like I can’t breathe right now. I just lost the salary and I was in this negative spiral. And I was like, mentally, like just I’d lost a salary that day.

Now it’s not a salary today’s day. It was like 2007 or eight, you know, and, you know, I lost that money. And immediately, I got up the next morning and I said, I don’t care. I’m going to focus on solving this problem right now. I’m not thinking big enough. How do I make this money back right now?

Quentin Edmonds (14:24)
Gotcha.

Yay.

Mathew Owens, CPA (14:39)
And I had just put in a bunch of work trying to find multifamily buyers and things like that. And I have a system for buying houses and buying property. So I actually found another multifamily and was able to wholesale it to another investor and make all that money back within about a three week period of time, which was insane. And it really just made that switch happen in my mind where automatically I’m like, no, don’t let yourself emotionally have that downtime of negativity.

fun as faster you get out of that the faster you can solve the problem. So like when you feel that coming on and that stress and that just like grit in your in your chest, you know, hurting you breathe, meditate, take a step back and like breathing you can literally it’s like a biohack to be able to completely calm your nervous system. And then it helps you focus on that solution right away and go right down everything you possibly can think of about

Quentin Edmonds (15:18)
yet.

Mathew Owens, CPA (15:35)
every negative thing and you’re like, actually, the chances of all these negative things are never going to happen or like 99%. And then, ⁓ and it’s just in your head and then what’s all of the action items that you can take right now. So that’s really what it switched is don’t let yourself have that, you know, negativity stay with you where you have to emotionally regulate to move that forward and be positive and, make money and make it back.

Quentin Edmonds (15:59)
Sir, man, Mathew , thank you, sir. Thank you for that reflective answer. ⁓ no. ⁓ So to your point, you’re absolutely right. Because to your point, I was about to say, I am learning. I’m just now learning. So I don’t have all the eloquent speech around it. But I’m learning there’s the difference between emotions and feelings. Like, emotions are the indicator. It’s the indication that I’m feeling something. I’m feeling angry. I’m feeling jealous.

Mathew Owens, CPA (16:03)
And it’s not easy, by the way.

Mm-hmm.

Quentin Edmonds (16:25)
feeling anxiety, I’m feeling. So it’s just an indicator and we all have emotions, but the feelings come in where I am looking at whatever I’m angry at and then I’m going to decide what’s going to be my response or sometimes reaction, which is not always the best thing, reacting more of what’s going be my response to the emotion that I’m feeling about this particular thing. And so my feelings, if I let my feelings dictate how I respond to it,

Yes, I’m a human being, so I have emotions, but I can still have these emotions and not let that, have that feeling take me to a place I’m not supposed to go. And so like you said, you gotta, you know, be self-aware. It’s okay to be angry. It’s okay to say, hey, honey, feel my chest. Like, I gotta get this under control. I’m feeling a feeling. I’m feeling an emotion. But how I respond to it, the feeling that I’m gonna give this emotion is gonna be something totally different. I’m gonna calm him.

Mathew Owens, CPA (16:55)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it’s that that

that that focus on the the strategic purposeful response without emotion versus being reactive and having emotion, right, which we all have trouble with sometimes, right? We all get mad at the kids are mad at something. And, you know, then you’re calmed down and, know, a couple of minutes and then you’re like, why did I react that way? Right. You got to catch yourself. But don’t beat yourself up because you can’t do it all the time. Right. It’s it’s part of life. Right.

Quentin Edmonds (17:44)
Yes.

There’s two books I’m to put out here. And people that follow me, you know, I don’t know if you knew here or not, but people that follow me, they know this is kind of stuff I talk about because I always say at the center of the business, in the business is the business owner. You are the center of your business. And so you have control of your mindset, have control of your temperament. It matters because you got high, high stakes decisions that you got to meet. You know, you got millions of dollars that’s on the line. But how do you center yourself?

Mathew Owens, CPA (18:42)
Mm-hmm.

Quentin Edmonds (18:54)
when all this chaos, I think you said it best, when all this chaos is going on around you. So this is something that we talk about here. So there’s two books I want to plug because like you said, it’s not easy. It’s a learned behavior. This doesn’t happen by osmosis. This is intentional. You have to be intentional. And so there’s a book by Dr. Caroline Leaf called Switch on Your Brain. She’s a neuroscientist and she tells you, she show you how to train your brain to respond. Sometimes we have defaults.

Mathew Owens, CPA (19:05)
Mm-hmm.

Quentin Edmonds (19:21)
Well, most of us have defaults on the way we respond. And most of the time it’s respond by negative thinking or, you know, know, being led by your emotions and your feelings. But she’s saying that she’s a neuroscientist and she says the brain is plastic and neuroscience, neuroplasty is the ability to bend your brain and make it do what you tell it to do. So it’s very intentional. The second book is a book by Jason Will Williams, Wilson, Jason Wilson.

Mathew Owens, CPA (19:43)
Interesting.

Quentin Edmonds (19:49)
It’s called the man that the moment demands. The man that the moment demands. And he talks about that us as men is that we have the capacity to be the man that the moment demands in that time. So yeah, there’s the time to be a lion. If a dog is chasing your child, it’s time for that lion to come out. It’s not time to be passive in that moment. But when we’re talking to our wives,

Mathew Owens, CPA (19:55)
Interesting.

You got me lying.

Quentin Edmonds (20:16)
It ain’t the time to be the lion. We ain’t chasing no pit bull. I mean, sometimes anyway, that’s a whole nother story. Please don’t, boss, don’t strike. But, but,

Mathew Owens, CPA (20:21)
Yeah ⁓

I talk tons of trash

to my wife all the time, so it’s all good.

Quentin Edmonds (20:29)
And here’s the thing,

sometimes that same feeling arises. You feel like you’re being threatened sometimes, but you got to know your wife ain’t no pit bull. The lion can’t come out. We can be nurturers. We can be cooks. And we can build carburetors. We can braid hair. If we can be plumbers, we can help our kids with homework. Like we have analytical brain to do all these different things. If we can be on a field and we can be ferocious, but at times if a player get hurt, we calm down and make sure that they okay.

Mathew Owens, CPA (20:34)
Right, right.

Quentin Edmonds (20:57)
We can do the same. We can control our emotions and our family. If people, know, things are going on, we can calm it down. So those are two books I highly recommend. And I know I said a lot, but brother, thank you for your reflective answer, man. Thank you, man. I appreciate your, and I knew I was going to love asking you that question. Mr. Mathew , what is next for you, sir? What is next with your business, with your next goal? What are you looking to solve or scale next?

Mathew Owens, CPA (21:20)
So I’m in the process of turning everything in my business passive. I’ve stopped flipping properties, I’ve stopped lending direct, and now we’re just repositioning our current portfolio and partnering with other investors that wanna come in and joint venture with us, where we bought the properties, we renovated them, we’ve tented them, we’ve got the financing in place, and then we just have the investors come in and partner with us and put the down payments down and we do all the work. And so we have a system for the asset management side.

but we’re not buying anything else. We’re just creating cashflow streams longterm. And then same thing on the lending side. We stopped dealing with tons of borrowers and lending all the time. We just buy the debt now. So we don’t have to do a lot of the work now. And, and, ⁓ we also have our businesses up and running and they’re cash flowing and we’re, building our business more intentional now towards being much more passive or we don’t have to operate everything. And we have teams and systems in place to do.

most of the work and we’re actually automating a bunch of the processes within our system with AI and with the different strategies and actually empowering our team with this and the whole vision with the team is we’re not going to quit until everyone on our team has passive cash flow and is financially free. And we look at that aspect is super important. It gives everybody the same vision moving forward where yeah, I could go stop right now and be cool myself.

But that doesn’t mean my team is. And so I want to make sure that no matter what we’re building enough so that our team is taken care of. And if we can build AI where our team doesn’t have to do 90 % of their workload, cool. I’m still going to keep them and I’m still going to go through and put them in place so that they can actually manage that AI and do that piece of it, because we can build the reality we want this way. And I think with a lot of people that have the same mindset and the same vision, you get the most power out of everybody involved.

So that’s what I’m doing. I love doing that for my team. I love doing that for my investors. We have investors of ours that get to travel the world through investing in our promissory notes and our deals where they’re making $30,000 plus a month in promissory note structures with these types of strategies. And it’s exciting to me to be able to say, Tope, you have something you can rely on that’s not the stock market that’s gonna go up and down that I help them from a tax perspective and help them.

create that financial freedom in their life. I don’t do taxes, but I help them, you know, not pay taxes to the government because they’re going to waste it anyways, you know, but so you can tell I’m very anti-government in this case for all governments, but you know, I want my, I want my bunker and my water barrels and food supplies and things like that and a farm somewhere. That’s my mindset right now. So

Quentin Edmonds (23:49)
Yeah, you.

You know I’m I hear

you, It’s almost like you’re forecasting where I’m about to go with my questions, Because I promise you, this is the next question that I was going to ask. And again, I’m love asking you this question, just based on what you said. You want to empower the team. want every team member to experience that passive freedom, passive freedom, know, income deep pass. But you know what I’m trying to say. Yeah, So here is my question, brother.

Mathew Owens, CPA (24:20)
Absolutely.

Quentin Edmonds (24:24)
When you hear the word relationship, what comes to mind?

Mathew Owens, CPA (24:26)
When I hear relationship, I look at somebody that can, you can, when a relationship you’re helping each other grow as people, you’re helping each other grow on, based on the skillsets of, the resources of that relationship, right? They may have relationships, they may have resources with business, but they also may have resources with like emotion or emotional regulation and clarity and experience and advice and

family and all different types of things that you can help with. And so to me, a true relationship is where both parties are doing their best to try to help each other any way they possibly can. ⁓ Otherwise, the relationship isn’t worth it, or it’s only one sided. And I think that everybody can really push to help each other and we all become better for doing so.

⁓ And when you start going to tons of networking events all the time, in the very beginning, I was going to five networking events a week for three, two to three years total. think I was trailing off at the end of year three, was like five a week, but we were going nonstop developing relationships with people that have resources, that have knowledge bases, that can help from a skillset perspective and just building our team, building our resources and building the people that we want in our life.

I think by having the exposure to a massive amount of people like that, it really helps you pick the people that you want in your life and be very strategic about that, which is actually extremely important because you think and talk about different things and different goals with different relationships. Sometimes your high school friends and stuff are not necessarily the people that you should be hanging out with, you know? and there’s nostalgia there. So it’s hard to not to break off those things or not. don’t necessarily have to break them off.

You just have to realize, hey, let’s be very intentional about who I spend the most amount of my time with.

Quentin Edmonds (26:18)
Yeah, man, I knew I was going to enjoy your answer. Most of the time, my follow-up commentary to that answer is the word community. Community is common unity. It’s when people are in common unity. So they’re in unity pushing the goal forward. And uniformity and unity, two totally different things. Uniformity means we’re doing the same thing the same way, all of us doing the same thing at the same time.

Unity is when people are different things at different times, but with one common goal in mind. So everything you just said to me synthesizes that empowering people, ⁓ know, knowing what the, what the type of relationship that we’re in, but knowing that we both are offering things to this, to this relationship, to build a goal or vision so all of us can thrive and move forward and have success in it. so.

Mathew Owens, CPA (27:06)
Absolutely.

Quentin Edmonds (27:07)
Man, Mathew , before we go into your contact information, is there any last words you want to give, man, like of motivation, inspiration, education? Like if you came with something on your mind, you wanted to make sure the viewers definitely knew. I kind of want to make space for that,

Mathew Owens, CPA (27:22)
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, one of the biggest things that I think people should focus on is taking a step back out of the chaos and writing down their vision and where it should be, because you can’t get there without knowing what that looks like. And everything you do should be intentional towards obtaining that vision. And, you know, sitting down with your kids, for example, or your family and doing a vision board and brainstorming about all the things that you you you want in your life and you want to bring into your life.

I really believe that your, your, your mindset and everything is a major magnet. so both positive and negative. So if you’re negative, you’re going to attract that, right? So it’s the law of attraction that you’re going to be able to attract that positive. And the only way to attract that positive is to have it in your head at all times. I have a list on my desk of all the things that I want. and I even have affirmations on, my, ⁓ on my actual, ⁓ desktop and

I’ll actually read them for you right now. I’m the creator of my reality. I’m in control of my daily habits. I live in the moment with my family. I teach my kids daily. I’m the best version of myself today. God is always with me and today is my day. And if you repeat that in your head every single morning, and I even have my daily habits of things that I wanna do like meditation and stretching and working out and reading and.

you know, getting outside and getting some sunlight and taking my vitamins and at night eating horrible. And you know, all those things that you want to make sure you remind yourself every single day and it’ll push you forward. But having that, that why, and that vision really pushes you forward and gives you the motivation to do hard things, which it’s not easy. It’s never going to be easy. And you have to know you’re going to take hits. You’re going to do that. Once you know that, that that’s going to happen at some point.

and you’ll be able to get through it way faster and way easier.

Quentin Edmonds (29:16)
man, so well said. One of my mentors, they said, when you know who you are, you know what to do. And so with affirmations like that, you are training yourself to know you like Dr. Caroline Leaves said, you’re rewiring your brain, training your brain to know who you are. That way, no matter what situation you get in, you know exactly what to do.

Mathew Owens, CPA (29:17)
Haha!

Yes.

Quentin Edmonds (29:36)
You know exactly, I’m going to eat right. You know, I’m going to be here for my family. You know, I’m just trying to remember some of the things you were going to tell yourself, but you are telling yourself, this is my why, I know who I am and I’m going tell myself every day who I am. So no matter what situation I get in, I know how to operate. And so, man, I appreciate you, sir. Listen, if someone wanted to reach out to you, connect with you, collaborate with you, learn more about what you’re doing, how can they get in contact with you, sir?

Mathew Owens, CPA (29:36)
Absolutely.

Absolutely, Matt.

Yeah, they can actually just go to my website, mathewowens.com and it’s spelled with one T in Mathew because I say my parents couldn’t spell even though they were engineers and CPAs. ⁓ yeah, mathewowens.com and we’ve got 200 point due diligence checklists on there. We’ve got master classes on how to build wealth and raise capital on how to find deals and how to analyze them, all that different stuff for free for people on there. And if people want to reach out, you can contact us through that website, mathewowens.com. Thanks, man.

Quentin Edmonds (30:30)
Absolutely, man. Well, let me say three things to you sincerely. One, thank you for your time. I feel like time is our most precious commodity. Yeah, I know how how podcasts work, but still you did not have to give us your time, man. And so I appreciate it. ⁓ And you gave it to us for free. Let me move on. Let me move on past that before you try to send me an invoice. But now, seriously, but now, seriously, man, thank you for your time. Thank you for a precious commodity that you have. You gave it to us. I appreciate that. ⁓

Mathew Owens, CPA (30:43)
No worries.

Thank you.

Quentin Edmonds (30:59)
Secondly, man, thank you for your story. Thank you for the gift of your authenticity. Thank you for the gift of your vulnerability. Thank you for the gift of your transparency. I believe our stories, our narratives have a way of planting seeds. We may not know when it grows, right? We may not know when it takes root, but that seed can grow two years from now, five years from now. And so you really planted some seeds, man, that can literally course correct somebody’s life. So thank you for that.

And lastly, man, thank you for your mindset. Thank you for the way you think and bringing that mindset to this platform. You had to pay for that mindset and experience and losses, some even in money. But you brought that mindset to this platform. And I greatly appreciate you being here today,

Mathew Owens, CPA (31:42)
No worries at all. Thank you so much for having me. I’m excited to be able to share, share the stories and, you know, share the knowledge and share the mindset. Cause it’s a really, it is a learned thing. So it takes time to develop. whenever something bad happens, I just say, ⁓ this is good for me. Even though you want to laugh it off and be like, great, you know,

Quentin Edmonds (32:01)
Oh,

man. Oh, man. When you talk, my mind, I totally got that archived brain. So many things come to mind when you talk. So I always know when I’m in the presence of somebody that’s feeding my soul, because when they talk, I see in pictures, I see in pictures and then my mind starts to pull from, from history and things that I’ve read and it shapes into like life application for me. So, man, I really appreciate you being on today, man. Real talk. Yeah, absolutely.

Mathew Owens, CPA (32:03)
ha.

Sure, don’t worry, thank you so much,

Quentin Edmonds (32:28)
So listen, y’all tell me, come on. Y’all got it. I know y’all enjoyed that. You can’t tell me you didn’t. So listen, get in contact with Mr. Mathew His information is in the show notes. So get in contact with him, but definitely make sure you are subscribed here, because I promise you, we’re going to continue to bring up amazing people just like Mr. Mathew . So sir, thank you again. And everyone else, you’ll have a fantastic day.