Building Barndominiums

Mike Hambright (00:12.654)
Hey everybody, welcome back to the show. I’m really excited to have a unique conversation today for my show anyway.

meeting with Josh Helm today from Texas Best Construction. He’s a barndominium builder. And a lot of you guys know that my wife and I built essentially a barn dominium, a farmhouse on some land. so we’ve had some good conversations here. But it’s a unique conversation from a little bit different entrepreneur than what we typically have on the show. But a lot of the lessons are going to be applicable to you guys. So Josh, welcome to the show. Mike, thanks for having me. Yeah. Yeah. The funny thing is, I think I told you this when you walked in, that I’m pretty sure we talked before we built

house because there aren’t you know we’re in East Texas there’s nobody the town I’m in is only 2200 people there’s not I mean there’s no builders there and though I flipped hundreds of houses in Dallas like none of my contractors I haven’t built one and none of my contractors are going out there

And so I had to start from scratch. we talked. And I think at the time, you weren’t going that far out. It’s probably 90 minutes from town. But anyway, it’s interesting how paths cross and come back around. Thanks for reminding me that and get the job. Yeah. Well, anyway, hopefully you get a couple of jobs out of today’s show. Yeah, so good to have you here. No, it’s good to be here. And I’m definitely excited to learn more about what you guys are doing here over at Investor Fuel.

So I was pleased to learn about the opportunity. Yeah, it’s interesting. I was talking a little bit. So just some of it’s based on my age. Some of it’s based on I think the way the market’s been from covid forward is people there’s this craze of people that want to buy land and have a ranch and, you know, trade in their exotic car for a tractor or a Kubota or whatever. So I went from like I’ve never owned a lawnmower as an adult to now I’ve got to mow one hundred and four acres. And I enjoy actually enjoy doing it. mean, sometimes

Mike Hambright (02:03.248)
I sometimes I’m tired of it, but you know, I’m also sitting in a cab with Bluetooth and listen to music and things like that. absolutely. Yeah, I think I think it’s I think it’s some of the seasons like what we’ve talked about that we’ve gone through in the past that sort of created a revival back to some of this generational living going through the pandemic, going through COVID, all these things really. It it it did something for us.

Although it was a very trying time, especially with the economy and all the things, but it did something for us mentally and probably spiritually to a lot of people that gave us a maybe a direction to look back and say, hey, what was valuable to us back when? a lot of people did kind of go back to let’s get some land. You know, let’s build a barnament or a ranch property.

Yeah, I think a lot of entrepreneurs just know, if it’s meant to be, it’s up to me. I’m going to have to figure this out. And I think going through a few things like that accelerated that. People are just like, yeah, you start to question, what is this all for?

Yeah, a lot of it, think, multi-generational families needed each other. And we were sort of in that place at that time. had built our barndominium home in the 2015 era, somewhere in that range. And so as COVID rolled around, I was actually in the midst of building a barndominium for my parents who had taken over

over our home office. they were living in my office where I’m at now and kind of made the kitchenette place up there. Meanwhile, on the first floor had my in-laws and then my wife’s grandmother who moved in with them. So we had all sets of grandparents right next door. So during that time frame, know, like I think a lot of people, but it was just a real…

Mike Hambright (04:19.502)
I think it’ll be a good joyful time for us to look back even with all the frustration of things that were going on. We had we had our family right there. We had some of the best dinners you know because it was a collaborative effort you know. You some other people to do dishes for once. Yeah exactly. So I think I think it reminded us like I said what what we had back in the day you know kind of a sense of community and there’s there’s that side of it and then there’s the

side where you just were locked down, right? You couldn’t go out public.

And so you wanted that freedom, maybe to get back out on some land and exercise some of that, the joy of what that can give you. So I like to mow my pasture as well. Yeah. So you didn’t start as a builder or a barndominium builder for sure. So tell us your backstory a little bit. if I’m telling a little bit of the backstory, always there’s been construction. My dad had an overhead fire protection

company did a lot of multifamily residential actually. And so as a young teenager I would work the summers with him. Spent most of my summers on apartment complex sometimes. I remember my 16th birthday we’re working on a project in San Antonio and you know just spent the whole summer down there working. And then right out of high school I did college a little bit. Ended up

looking to go into ministry to be like a worship leader actually for a church. And but I worked with my dad doing AutoCAD design and some of the fire sprinkler design work. Spent some time doing that for a season before I went try to make a run at doing full-time ministry. Well it didn’t take me long after I got married to realize that I needed a way to make money too.

Mike Hambright (06:25.232)
So the ministry wasn’t quite going to do it at the time. So I started doing roof sales and spent probably six, seven years just chasing storms, doing that type of work, and was really successful. I really enjoyed that process so much that my wife and I started on roofing company. We ended up doing that for several years until the 08 housing market crashed.

of having a roofing company really really changed a lot of my mentality so you know I shifted my focus to diversify the things that I knew how to do was really sore about what roofing had done for me even though I was skilled at doing it but I just you know I wanted something different and I started doing more commercial roofing stucco those kind of things at that time okay and then how so

So how did the barndominium thing come along? So the barndominium deal happened because as I diversified the type of work that I was doing,

I started building some houses with, was working with my cousin, actually, I was in a partnership deal with him, and we were building some conventional homes. And so because I did remodeling, conventional home building, commercial roofing, manufactured stucco, I mean stone and stucco and all these other kind of things. And so it’s like whatever, right? Whatever pays, that’s pretty much what I was willing

to do in construction.

Mike Hambright (08:09.832)
what really shifted me into the barndominium was when my wife and I started our company, Texas Best Construction, we had built a barndominium for my in-laws because they came to us and they’re like, we’re going to sell our house and we’re thinking about building out on your land. Which is always nice to them. Yeah, it’s always nice to know that there’s an opportunity for that.

And so I did spend some time really thinking about it we found out, hey, this could be a good thing. And so we spent a few years really planning that out. And I ended up drawing the plans on some graph paper. And we built a 75 by 40 foot structure. It was two story on one side. So we left about, I want to say 40 by 40.

of it was for living. On the first floor we had like a 1500 square foot living quarters for my in-laws. Two bedroom, two bath with a nice little setup. And then we, the rest it’s like was extra space so we just decided we wanted to build like a large craft room for my wife and a big office area for me so that I could

do some of my roofing, sales, or some of my business work.

And again, this started in 2015. 2016 is when we started Texas Best. So this was a developmental shift once we built that structure before it became our office place. Didn’t have any idea that that’s what it was going to be, but that’s what it ended up being. That’s how every entrepreneurial journey starts that way. Like you didn’t know this is the path I was going to go down. You’re trying to solve your own problem usually. And then you see, well, other people have this problem too.

Mike Hambright (10:08.431)
need something and I have a skill that I can help them with. Yeah, yeah and so we built our barndominium right next door to our conventional home. Interesting story with the property was we because of the 08 deal we really needed a restart you know financially all the sales and stuff was going great for us in 2011 but my wife had picked this house it was sitting on a

kind of a abandoned property. It’s like a 3500 square foot home, two story brick home on 10 acres that had been vacant for two years. Had quite a bit of trouble and looked in despair, but she’s like, this could be a place. And I’m like, wow, this is it, And so we…

went through a lot, ended up doing a short sale purchase on that property, which turned out to be the real blessing in it all because we were able to get a steal of a deal for that property during that season, now is a very, we did a lot of remodeling and all that as well.

But I would say that’s part of our redemption story. If I had a lot of time, Mike, I’d have to tell you a lot more about that, just the ups and the downs through that season. starting Texas Best, though, was a new start. Really, we had been successful in the other, and we’re like, hey, this would be a good place to go. We set out. We’ll build some fences, paint some houses.

you know, do some roofing, remodeling, bathrooms, kitchens. That’s how we set out with Texas Best. And the idea behind Texas Best was to really not so much to say, we’re the best. It was more that we wanted to just put our best foot forward. You know, there’s a scripture that says, whatsoever you do, do it as unto the Lord.

Mike Hambright (12:23.298)
That was really the whole mantra of Texas Best. And we kind of set our feet in that direction. But because we had built this barndominium, we found and we put a sign out in front, people started stopping. And we had several people that were like, hey, could you build us a barndominium?

And that through just some of our remodeling and our connections through some of our other work that we were doing for several years of Texas Best, we weren’t building Barndominium. I would say 2018, 2019 is really when we kicked it off. Yeah. And then you did a few and then you knew you were onto something. We did a few and then we made the mistake of putting it on YouTube. And that’s where it really

Took off. Yeah. Yeah, so let’s talk a little bit about That like your social media platform and you have a massive footprint. You’ve got half million people on your Facebook group a couple hundred thousand people So subscribe to your YouTube channel because you’re creating content We’ll come back to the barndominium kind of crazed because it’s also a very hot topic right now You know has been for a few years, but so what was the catalyst to say like let’s put this on social media I’m sure you

had no idea at the time that it would become the craze that it has or your channels would be so successful. Right, we had no idea. It wasn’t a calculated move, that’s for sure. I had 130 subscribers already on YouTube. When we started the company, it’s like I did this whole work jam video. I did that, which kind of showed a little bit of everything that we do. And then I did another video that said,

building your dream barndominium in four minutes because we had built our barndominium. It’s like I just took a really bunch of photos and showed it.

Mike Hambright (14:25.358)
Video of that okay well I came back to that and it’s like there’s 20,000 views on that video Wow and you’re like What’s this all about you know? Like said that had been going on for a couple of years that that that was the first week We started business. I put that video up. You know but mainly just to show you know you take all the Your best photos or whatever and you put all that in a collection. It’s like

Then I went to

Later I was doing I had an assortment of remodeling that I was doing I had probably four or five major remodels, you know where kitchen bath whole house remodels and then I had a burnout house that I was doing for an insurance job and You know, I was really needing some good quality photos because my thought was on Facebook This is where we really had the I felt like we had a real thing going, you know

because I had like four or five thousand people on Facebook who was following us there and and the pictures really seemed to stir up the Engagement and so I just wanted to be consistent. So I reached out to a friend of mine Photographer who had been doing some real estate Photography as well as he had been doing YouTube as well had a YouTube channel and stuff but

I reached out to him, his name is Drew Peterson, he, you know, I hired him to come and we just set a budget and said, can you come every week and we’ll just do some content. And he’s like, yeah, we could do some YouTube videos and HGTV style and all this stuff. And I’m like, what? I don’t know about that, but.

Mike Hambright (16:19.658)
So things just started clicking, but I said, OK, we’ll do it. We made some videos. Really wasn’t doing anything the first six months.

much at all. know, we might have had 20 or 30 more subscribers. But at the end of the day, I liked the content. And I liked what we were laying out, you know, so it’s like, well, we’re going to continue this. Then I had some, because we had several projects that were just in developmental, I didn’t have a lot of like finished projects. So I started seeking out like try to find some finished projects. And we just

it just happened to be that my parents were going to sell their 10,000 square foot barndominium. And it just clicked, you know. I’m like, we need a video that.

My dad had built a barnum in him and we have been seeing barnum in him’s you’ve seen them I’m sure over Texas for the last several decades So the barnum in him is not a new idea but we just fell it kind of fell in our lap because we did it out of necessity and We wanted to put a good plan together to build them and The rest is all favor and a lot of prayer and the Lord putting us in the right spot Yeah, so there’s the lesson there for a lot of people. mean there’s a tough

of people, I’ll just tell you, we have a podcast here, right? there are, I bet you just in the real estate space, there are 500 podcasts that did a few episodes and have never come back to it. And they’re just hanging out there, right? And there’s a lesson there in. sounds like our podcast. Being a hundred, but I mean, you know, not giving up and just pushing through and you kind of question, is anybody even watching this? Does it matter? And then at some point there’s a, there’s a hockey stick moment, right? Right. At some point.

Mike Hambright (18:08.656)
It’s something that clicks around. Hey, this is really working if you stick to it, right? I think people definitely quit Because they don’t see instant results and like for me The reason what kept me going is because I felt like with time There would be an accumulation

or build up and I don’t know why I was dumb enough to believe that but it was true and of course you you start listening and caught some Gary Vee through just association you know hearing a lot of what Gary was saying about just you know sharing you and sharing

and bringing value and really just trying to be vulnerable. I feel like during that season, it really is part of the magical potion. Because I kept thinking, every time I make a video, I’m like, okay, who’s gonna come on here and tell them?

tell everybody that I don’t know what I’m doing. You know, because that’s really what you’re thinking. You you feel a little bit insecure if you’re not in that authoritative place. And I just wasn’t there, you know. I was developing. But I was sharing. We all are. Yeah, I was definitely developing. And I’m still in that place today. Yeah. So that’s, think.

maybe some of that secret there. Yeah, and I think some of it is just documenting your real story. A lot of people that create social media content, it’s not real. And your stuff’s very real. On this show, we have real conversations. I sometimes question, why am I doing this? But I do it to have great relationships and build friendships, and who knows where that’ll go.

Mike Hambright (19:58.701)
But I think just being real and having real conversations, it holds you accountable too. Because you want to continue to level up because you put yourself, for one reason or another, under the microscope, right? Exactly. And I ask those questions as well, like, what am I doing? Because there’s a lot of challenges that come with not only being in construction business, but sharing that out there. So I could talk forever about

all the many challenges that we’ve had as a business that is constantly sharing your work to the public while you’re working for individuals like there’s competition there’s

concern about why is this one ahead of this, you know, some of the immediate challenges that we’ve had, you know, early on was with that, which ultimately, and I always tell people like, look, we’re a construction business first, right? Like that’s what we set out to do to provide a service, to do a really good job. And the expression of that is to have

the pride in the work that you do that you want to share. But there’s some days that you just, you you realize the challenges are more and you don’t feel like sharing anymore because

you’re just not perfect and there’s not enough perfect to share. So you have to, that’s where that vulnerability comes. You have to be open to that too. Because people appreciate the imperfect. They really want that. They want to see that you’re no better than them and you’re not. We’re all the same, right? We’re fragile. We’re loaded down with burden and we’re stressed to the max, but you got to find that strength on the day.

Mike Hambright (21:58.045)
today and to go back to the principles that lead you to do a good job. Yeah. And so that’s part of it. Yeah. And so some of it is is is probably fate that you

we’re getting into this at the time that this kind of craze was just taken off. I don’t, I don’t need, I’m going to ask you a question. You might not have the answer to, but do you know what kind of happened with unit growth for barndominiums in that era where you started? And I mean, it’s definitely taken off like nationwide, but I don’t, it’s, it’s, don’t have any bar charts to show everybody, but, but you clearly, you, you caught something early. I’ve seen the bar charts because if you search the trends like Google trends, you can definitely see that chart and it is in that

from 2016 to up to now, you know, and you can see a dramatic chart increase from during that season. So I wouldn’t completely give COVID the credit because I think it started a little bit initially before, but what’s happened with the barndominium is,

stylistic you know people are now building them intentionally for a style you know this is not just it’s not just a means to an end like it used to be and that’s where there’s a lot of adjustments there’s a lot of financial calculations because you know the barnum in him today that we built today

is as much or more than what you would build in a conventional home. You’ve got as much effort for efficiency and all of the performance that you want to have than

Mike Hambright (23:48.559)
what you used to do when say a rancher built a structure with and wanted to corner off a place to sleep while he was there checking on his cattle on the weekends. Yeah. You know, that’s that’s where we’ve come. And so now it’s like, oh, we’re building an intentional home. And I think people should think differently about it. We want that on the financial side, right? We want them. Everybody wants to build a barn a minimum. That.

equals less money but is valued at great amounts of money. And I say it’s like a get out of debt free card or something where we can buy into something really cheap, sell it for a lot of money, but it just doesn’t work that way when you put the value there upfront.

You know, it’s gonna have the value there at the end as well. Yeah, you know a lot of people are passionately upset Because they cost more money, but it’s everything that costs more money It’s not just barnum errors and I think the definition of what is a barnum enium is everybody has a different definition I think there was a time where it was kind of utilitarian, right? It’s like part storage and there’s a little bit of living quarters and the truth is is I think we we don’t I guess that what we built, you know, it’s really more of a luxury farmhouse

that has no storage. I mean, we have a garage, but we also have a separate barn. So it’s not probably the classical barndominium and has a different look and feel than the traditional barn dominium as well.

Yeah, I don’t really care what anybody doesn’t really matter what it’s called right, but exactly I mean that’s evolved because people want to get more out of their properties than they did in the past maybe right Yeah, and I kind of take the same position as you Mike. It’s like well. I don’t care what people call it either you know At the time barndominium when we coin when we’re coining what a barndominium is it was understood you know at least in Texas and And there’s a lot of people who are passionately trying

Mike Hambright (25:49.697)
trying to gatekeep what you call it. Well, if you don’t have a shop attached, now it’s a schaus. If you have this, or if you have a shop attached, I guess. I don’t know all the rules. But there’s a lot of people in the northern areas that are coming up with their own lingo about it. But the initial first barndominium that ever…

where it started was somewhere way over on the east, want to say maybe New Jersey, I can’t remember exactly, but the first time was a horse ranch. A guy had the idea to build

basically these barns with that half was living and the other half was the horse stalls. So, and they, was in the newspaper. was barndominium was coined then at that point. And that was, I don’t know how many years ago, but I don’t know. can’t remember exactly when it was, but that that’s the earliest site of that term. But what it’s become today is far different. Like we’re building sports barn and many arms and,

It’s more of a style, I think, than anything. If free span structure is really where I draw the line, because if it’s post frame, you kind of got those trusses involved, you’re doing that free span, or if you’re using a steel structure, you’re spanning, that to me has more of a, it’s a barndominium.

it could be post frame, could be hybrid steel frame, could be a bunch of different things because there’s so many ways to do it. You could stick frame it and call it a barndominium. One of our editors, as we ride around, he’s like, I’m starting to figure this out. Everything’s a barndominium. It’s like to us, it is because…

Mike Hambright (27:53.519)
think for a lot of people, it’s probably more about the land than the home. mean, they want a nice home. And for us, it’s our second home. So we wanted something that was easy to maintain. So it’s all steel structure. we kind of built. We went above and beyond on some things that we hope would allow it to live on.

ever and you know I mean having flipped like hundreds of houses in Dallas we’ve done a ton of foundation work and we made sure that that thing is never gonna move out there like tons of drilled piers and massive slab but it was just because I flipped so many houses I’m like man I don’t want this to be a problem in three years from now

So I want this to go on for generations to come. Yeah. And I would say based on experience, like I, we made some early mistakes ourselves, you know, because I, I, I recruited some help when we built our barn and Minium in 2015. And, you know, some of the help that I recruited were selling me on the fact that, well, don’t have to do as much with your foundation because all your load is going to be on the outer perimeters. And so I,

I of bought into that a little bit, but I have black land soil. And so I’ve had problems with my foundation over there. And yeah, I wished I would have done the way that we build today. We do the geotechnical report. We do engineered foundations. And we’ve got…

so much concrete that we’re putting into this stuff. But we do it because it’s a home and we’re building it to be a home and people’s largest investment you don’t need to skip.

Mike Hambright (29:38.699)
I don’t feel like you need to do anything less than you would in a conventional home. Yeah. I think that’s one of the, one of the myths is like I, I was in a bunch of Facebook groups and I’m looking when we’re kind of thinking about this and there’s clearly a bunch of DIYers people that are just going do it themselves. And, you know, I’m not a DIYer for that. I,

You know, my hands are real soft. They don’t need to touch any tools, you know. But I would totally screw that up. So but I think it’s it’s gone from like something utilitarian to I want to build something. The range is still there for everyone, I guess. But for us, it was like we want to build a place to create a ton of memories for our family for generations to come. And so we want to build it right. We want to be amazing. And, you know, it’s it’s and it’s because of the land we have one hundred and four acres

We have all these ponds like we got a lot of cool stuff. The house is just a part of it but I think kind of the barndominium craze is Not taking anything away from you at all is is as much about the experience of getting away or living away or

living a little bit more off the grid or whatever it might be than the structure itself. Absolutely. That’s I would I would say the same thing. And that’s what it was for our clients. But I mean for my in-laws. But you know we’ve built for some people that have one acre.

track, you know, we’ll build a barndominium and it just so happens to be right outside the city. So it’s like, but now it’s, it’s like an attractive place. A lot of people would love to have, uh, in there and some of the advantages for the type of structure that you build is why you want to get away from painting and, know,

Mike Hambright (31:26.798)
having to paint your house every five years right so that’s what the barndominium does for people that are maybe looking to build something that’s generational that they want to maintain all the time right and so other than maybe get a pressure washer go out wash it down

So you’re kind of trading that brick and mortar or that siding for efficiencies, putting that back into maybe a little thicker wall system, having better insulation, air tightness, some of these things that really make up some of the performance of the home. I think those are some of the key advantages for us. it is a wild…

I call it barndominium or BUS, the Wild West, know. Everybody will do anything to build something that you could just call a barndominium. And for us, you know, it’s not about that. We just want to build a very high quality product.

that we can be proud of. Also that we don’t have to look over our shoulders and worry about, know, as we move down the road. Yeah. So that’s for us, you know, as a builder. It does get to be a little bit crazy, though. I’m not going to lie. Yeah. You know, it’s it’s hard to it’s hard to work for people. So. Yeah. Well, and I think for people to truthfully, I’ve flipped like I said, I flipped hundreds of houses, but this is first time I’ve ever built a house. And, know, there there there is always going to be friction probably between

The person you’re building for and the builder because everybody has different expectations of course just like everything in life like the communication has to be clear like probably a little bit more stuff should be documented and the average person had and things like that right so It’s challenging. It’s a challenging world. live in microwave society everything needs to be done today But it’s also hard, you know, just there’s so many logistical problems in our business like we we are traveling

Mike Hambright (33:30.352)
100 mile radius, which puts us maybe going 200 miles from one job to the next. So mobilization is a big thing, getting materials on site. It’s so many more challenges being a Barnum Indian builder than if I could just line up in a neighborhood somewhere and start stacking them, right? Much easier to do something like that. But not to take any weight thing away from those type of companies.

For me, it’s it’s very it’s been very hard. Yeah, it’s a different model to develop that I know when we had materials that we were ordering from all over the country, right? It wasn’t like we just went to the local hardware store and bought everything It was stuff was being shipped in from other states, especially during the kovat era where they’re like, you know

We got there’s stuff that we got that was a little bit unique and there’s like that that has to come from somewhere else and then you get it and they screwed it up windows right was a hard windows but that we had bored on batten satin steel siding which at the time was you know, I think it’s become more popular but it was somewhat unique. Not everybody’s making that or at least our color or whatever like who knows. There’s a lot of great options on that now, especially I think that there’s a lot of things that are developing. Sure. People are really coming along with it.

So with the evolution of your business model like it started we talked about that roofing then you got into building but eventually people are they want to be DIYers they need plans they want you to just do a shell and they’ll finish it out there’s all sorts of evolution that kind of happened in your business and a Lot all of our businesses quite frankly, right? talk about that a bit Yeah, so we we didn’t plan any of it. So that’s always a good way to start Well wished we could have been more of

mastermind plan at this but our efforts and the way things kind of blew up on social media, it took us a little while just to develop systems to where just having somebody to answer the phones was a challenge at the beginning because you have an enormous amount of people who are contacting you and only a small majority of those people or minority of those people I should say are potential customers.

Mike Hambright (35:49.479)
there’s more people that are looking for set of plans or whatever. We just didn’t have that kind of infrastructure. So as social media stuff really, it became…

a welcomed burden. I don’t know if that’s a nice way to say it, we were happy for it, but we didn’t really know what to do with it, especially in the beginning. It did lead to a lot of work and we had a lot of projects to do.

led to some very developmental years for us to really develop these seasons. mean these to really develop these systems to where we could become better at producing, you know, what we needed to produce. And and I always tell people I’m not I’m still not in love with our process, but we’re working on it weekly. You know, this is something we’re constantly trying to make adjustments for.

But initially, yes, we had to build a system for quotes, because we’d have hundreds of people who would be calling in wanting us to give them a bid. And some of the people would never even have been in our area, but we couldn’t just answer the phone fast enough. And at the time, I didn’t want to just pay somebody to answer the phones, where I’m paying several thousand dollars a month for…

non-potential customers. wasn’t your customer. And so it was my wife and I and a couple of others and small business. And so we’re just trying to get it going. So we had to build like a, we built like a Barndo cost calculator where people could go kind of play with the parameters. And still today, I think there’s, I don’t remember, I want to say five or 6,000 people have gone on

Mike Hambright (37:51.11)
got a quote over the last few years and then we’ve had

we had to formulate. Of course, we try to use videos to explain and to to lead people down the paths of understanding for our process. The videos are the way to go, you know, because a long time ago I read a book by Robert Kiyosaki. You probably read the same, but it’s called Rich Dad Poor Dad. think one of them, said, just do it once or just do it was the

name of the title, chapter, I can’t remember which part.

He talked about how he used a video in the store to sell products instead of standing there all day. I just always remembered that, you know, but I’ve thought about that with the social media. that’s great. Yeah. You might not know it, but that book is mentioned of if I’ve done nearly 2000 podcasts, probably on a quarter of the shows. Wow. It comes up. In fact, I hired Robert to come speak at one of our masterminds a little while back. So he’s probably

one of the most influential people to help them get into business, like not necessarily wherever they’ve gone from there, but for people to just realize that like I need to build something that can pay me for a lifetime. I think it’s a switch of the mind, of the thinking, know? And definitely spoke out to me. You might be surprised by this, I…

Mike Hambright (39:25.152)
I tried to really go all in on real estate investing years back. Did a Ron LeGrand course. Tried to do some coaching there. I never just got very far. I did do some flips in real estate. I’ve done several over the years. Never made any big mistakes there. I always say anytime I bought real estate was a good thing for me.

But it’s unfortunate in that, but.

Yeah, I wanted to be a big-time real estate investor. That’s really what I wanted to do. Yeah, well it’s funny because there’s probably a lot of real estate investors listening that still want to do what you’re doing. The grass is not necessarily greener. It isn’t, right? you work with what you’ve been dealt, but we’re really blessed with the direction we’ve went. A lot of it has to do with favor, and I believe the sovereignty of God who gives you the talents and abilities

that do and orders your steps into things. And that’s what I have to give credit to on this business because I tried to do things ambitiously early on that didn’t do so well.

Yeah, well that’s that’s how evolution works right there’s an element of evolution here too of just like I tried something and I learned and I pivot and sometimes you don’t give yourself enough credit for all the mistakes you made and and that there was a silver lining in a lot of those two right every one of them is a silver lining yeah because you’ll see you would see the red line that goes through it all of how you were picking up skills to maybe market or I was just pulling through some old video and footage

Mike Hambright (41:13.584)
actually on the way here or earlier today because we did a collaboration with another channel and they were asking for some of this documentation from back when and I was pulling up stuff from like

15, 20 years ago where I’ve got a camera in front of my face and I’m talking about changing pipe flashings on a roof. You know, it’s like, boy, I had no idea this was going to be like an everyday thing. And it’s just, it was just natural, right? You’re just doing what, what you’re naturally.

what you see is the need and how that can grow and become something what you’re accustomed to doing. Yeah, that’s great. So thanks for spending some time with me today. Good to see you. Man, I’m thrilled to be here. I’m always a yes guy when it comes to stuff like this because I think that’s the Gary V side. It’s like, opportunities, you don’t know what’s through the door until you walk through it.

Yeah, I’m excited to be here and

You know, love to be back. yeah. So well, you have so you have some amazing content to give us some links or where folks can learn more about you and maybe some of your social platforms. So we have most of this all you can find off of our main website, which is Texas Best Barndo.com. If we want to keep it simple, that’s probably the best way we’ve tried to steer everything through there. But you can find like our Barndo cost calculator there.

Mike Hambright (42:56.313)
our plan site which we now sell house plans for barndominiums there at bestbarnoplans.com if you go directly there you can find them there or on the website at texasbestbarno.com. Okay awesome yeah folks should try to find your YouTube channel see some of your content. I hope they’ll check it out. Yeah yeah awesome well guys thanks so much for joining us today there’s a lot of you know one of the things that I like to say about entrepreneurs is our widgets might be different but we all have a lot of the same issues a lot of my

mindset issues, cash flow issues, team building issues. We all want to work less and make more money and we’re all ultimately on the same journey. So hope you guys got some good value from today’s show. We’ll see you on the next one.