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In this conversation, Rodney Lawson shares his unique journey from being an educator to becoming a successful roofing contractor in Texas. He discusses the challenges and opportunities within the roofing industry, particularly in a competitive market like Texas, and emphasizes the importance of risk management and measured growth in business. The conversation also touches on the cultural shift from tennis to pickleball, exploring the reasons behind this change and its implications for the future of sports in America.
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Rodney Lawson (00:00)
Oh there’s tremendous growing pains. In fact, you know, I’m 10 years into this and there’s still a lot of growing pains. you know, you fail, you succeed, you fall down, you get back up and, you are right. It is a very, wide open space in the state of Texas. That can be good. That can also be bad. you have, you don’t have to have a license. Like you could get off the plane and tomorrow.get a house and establish yourself as a roofer tomorrow.
Dylan Silver (02:09)
Hey folks, welcome back to the show. Today’s guest, Rodney Lawson is a roofing contractor with 15 years of experience and he has a background as an educator. Rodney, welcome to the show.Rodney Lawson (02:22)
Hey, thank you very much. Glad to be a part of it. Can’t wait to unpack what we’ve got today.Dylan Silver (02:28)
I was looking into your background before hopping on here. You’ve got an interesting background because you had a heavy educator background before getting into roofing. Walk me through that transition.Rodney Lawson (02:41)
so, you know, I was going to Baylor university. I’m a big Texas Longhorn fan. I like to tell people I ran out of gas and Waco on the way to Austin. And so that catches a little chuckle here and there, but, the, I don’t know how good of the joke it is, but it’s, it works. And I was approached by a tax consultant or a tax lawyer.And he’s like, Hey man, once you get your CPA license, once you get, once you go to law school, you can hang your sign anywhere. And I didn’t like the business. I love business, but I didn’t do well on the business side, on the school, on the class side, classwork side. I’m, I’m more of an entrepreneur. And back then entrepreneurs were
You know, the schools weren’t doing, actually Baylor was just starting an entrepreneurial, section in their business school, but it was very in, in a, in a very, but anyway, I was coached. I go to, I’ve always been in church. I’ve always been true to my faith. And I was going to, Columbus Avenue and was coaching their basketball team in a church basketball league.
And I just absolutely loved it and thought, man, I want to do this. And I just, I don’t know. I went into coaching, got my teaching certificate, got my, went into coaching and I enjoyed it. I was coaching the tennis team. I’d gone fast forward and to the mid nineties, I was coaching the tennis team, knew a bunch of the guys that were dating the girls on our team.
And, about 10 years after I finished coaching at walks of hatching, I was an insurance agent there and walks of hatching had kind of gotten burned a little bit and the being a principal, a school principal. And these guys walked into my insurance agency, buying rental houses and they were half my age. And I’m like, okay, guys, where y’all getting this money to buy rental rent houses.
And they told me, well, we’re in roofing and we’re killing it. And it piqued my interest. And so, um, I reached out to somebody, got into it, went back into coaching a little bit, uh, about three years later. And then in 2015, I kind of went all in on my own and we had relocated to Kaufman to be closer to Ellen parents and Ellen, uh, aunts and uncles. And so.
Dylan Silver (05:21)
Sure.Rodney Lawson (06:11)
That’s kind of how I ended up. I started my own company and we’re here. I’m sitting in my office of about a year now. that’s right next door to my house. And as you can see part behind me, it’s completely cedar. And we did, I did the design on this. has a, just to pass to my right. There’s a door. There’s about a 2,400 square foot, like open area.that we host seminars, venues. And so we have one coming up, the second and third for salesmen. I don’t know if I can plug that or not, ⁓ we have, and it’s not limited to just roofing people. It’s limited to salespeople. I’ve got myself, Mike Cote, who you were talking about watching one of our episodes. I’ve got Ryan Stumann who runs his own deal.
Dylan Silver (06:43)
Yeah.Yeah
Rodney Lawson (07:09)
capital closer, I would highly recommend if you need money or funding, check in with Ron Stumann. But then we’ve got David Griffin, Randy Wade and Blake Klickner. And then we have a little worship time. Like I said, my wife and I are very serious about our faith. And we, not that we don’t make mistakes or not that we don’t do things wrong, but we aregoing to do, we’re going to do it on two dates, the date Friday and Saturday right after New Year’s Day.
Dylan Silver (07:43)
Amen, amen. Well.You know, a couple of things piqued my interest. I’ve got a background as a tennis player. I grew up playing tennis from a tennis family. So anyone who’s doing anything, yeah, absolutely anything tennis related. I’m a fan of and I know, you know, Texas. grew up in the East Coast. I grew up in northern New Jersey. So for, you know, something around a quarter of the year, it’s hard to play tennis. But Texas tennis, I’ll also throw in Florida, any of these warm weather climates. It’s another another beast entirely. I’ll have to ask you about that at the end of the
Rodney Lawson (07:52)
Really?Dylan Silver (08:15)
podcast,but I want to talk specifically about the roofing space in Texas because you know, got hail damage that we’re prone to there’s so much competition in roofing in Texas specifically. So walk me through breaking into that space. I know that you had that connection and you saw those young guys who were doing well but breaking into the space was it easier than you thought? Was it harder than you thought? Were there any growing pains?
Rodney Lawson (08:17)
Please.Oh there’s tremendous growing pains. In fact, you know, I’m 10 years into this and there’s still a lot of growing pains. you fail, you succeed, you fall down, you get back up and, you are right. It is a very, wide open space in the state of Texas. That can be good. That can also be bad. you have, you don’t have to have a license. Like you could get off the plane and tomorrow.
get a house and establish yourself as a roofer tomorrow.
And so there’s good part, there’s good to, the good part of that is anybody can start up a business that has a dream to do so. The bad part of that is, and it’s just like any other area, you have bad apples and good apples. And so it makes it harder for the consumer sometimes to filter through that. You know, is this a good company? Because anybody today can buy reviews.
anybody today can buy, you know, they can make it look like they’re five star, they’re with the Better Business Bureau, but you know, I think your work speaks for yourself for one, but I also think that, you know, I’ve made a very big point to be in the space of being in contractor programs. I mean,
three contractor programs, which means I had to adhere to a certain system and follow a certain way to put on roofs. And I just think, you know, so many times with our internet where it’s at today, even your uninformed or non knowledgeable homeowner could within five or 10 minutes, if they would look,
on the internet could find good ways or what should be being put on a roof install versus what should not be doing, being put on a roof install.
Dylan Silver (11:15)
Yeah, and I think, you know, to your point, there is, I would say, a more open field. There’s not so much barriers to entry and roofing. And so what you have is you do have some level of, I would say, consumer skepticism, maybe fairly so. But you also have, I would say, and I’m seeing it now specifically, especially with AI, this almost like an arms race to who can have the best customer service, which is good.And I think for a long time in so many of the trades that that was not the case. And so whether we’re talking about roofing, handyman work, plumbing, HVAC, any type of work on the home, in many cases it was an antiquated system. I think we’re seeing a big change in that right now.
Rodney Lawson (12:05)
I agreewith you. know, the internet can, like I just said, create a really, like you can make it, portray it that you’re a great company, but also the internet is also forcing people to have a minimum because like you said, a company, you know, it’s pretty quick.
I’ve also been in the restaurant business for a little bit, although I’m out of that now and I’m thankful that I walked away from that. But, ⁓ you know, people will quickly bash you more so than quickly praise you. And, like we have thousands of satisfied customers, but we’ve made mistakes along the way. The ones that we’ve made mistakes with quickly are the ones that are quicker to
bash you before the ones that, that you did a great job for. They’ll tell you they did a great job for it. And they’ll tell you, Hey, I’m going give you a five star review, but you never see it. And I’m not one to go out and beg for someone to give me a review. I like my work speak for itself. And I try to do it, but I do agree with what you’re saying is I think it goes, I think the internet has great points. I also think the internet has bad points.
and sometimes we abuse it. But to your deal, AI and others, they’re starting to bring some of the, they’re starting to show some of the shade that’s out there at times.
Dylan Silver (13:37)
Yeah, there’s no question. think we’re right, if we’re not already over the cusp, we’re right on the cusp of this huge change in customer service and in you know speed to inquiry in so many different realms. I’m a realtor myself in Texas, and so I definitely feel that squeeze. Like I know if I’m not picking up my phone and you know the first call, I’m losing that person, where maybe they had some more patients previously.I do want to pivot a bit here though, Rodney, and ask you specifically about scaling a business in the roofing space. You’ve been at this for 15 years, more than a decade, and you’ve seen cycles come and go. You’ve seen roofing companies come and go, I’m sure. And you can be in the roofing space. You could also be a realtor with a team. You could be insurance. You could be a lender. There’s some similarities in scaling teams and scaling business across all of these different
segments of business. Do you have any advice for folks who may either be starting out or who may be starting out building a team on what they can do to build their team to attract the high quality people and then also to retain them?
Rodney Lawson (15:33)
Well, I think you’ve got to, you know, for me, I’ve watched a lot of my colleagues and I watched a lot of companies just scale real quick. They’ll get to an eight figure, spot in the roofing. And let’s say they get to 10, 15, 20 million and two years later, they’re crashed. And part of that was they didn’t take into account how fat they were growing so fast.They didn’t budget and they didn’t expand and didn’t allow for their expenses to pay for their sales. I think what, whatever you’re in, whether it’s real estate, HVAC plumbing, whatever, you have to be careful that your expansion is measured and that you have the foundation in place and that you continue to reset the foundation.
and have cash flow in the bank so that you can adjust accordingly. If you go out, like a lot of my colleagues went out, bought big trucks, bought vacation homes, bought all these things, there’s nothing wrong with that to a certain extent. But if you don’t stay on top of your finances, it’s a huge thing in my opinion. I have cash flow. Now we’re coming up on a big project that’s a
we’re bidding on that I’ve never been on before. And it’s going to require a lot of money invested into the material side to begin with. I had to have that cashflow or I had to have the means to be able to access that cashflow. And so when you do that, there’s, there’s a way to scale, but if you’re scaling really quick, you’ve got to be careful because if you’re not careful,
It’ll crash and burn on you real quick. And go ahead.
Dylan Silver (17:28)
Now, with these, let’suse roofing as an example specifically. When folks are scaling really fast in roofing, is it because they feel some type of pressure from investors that they have to scale, or is it because that’s, you know, maybe in the roofing space, what’s, I’ve seen it a lot in roofing, what’s common is, hey, we’ve been successful like this, we’re gonna establish territories and we’re gonna grow. Is it that investor pressure or is it, hey, in roofing, we have to manage territories and we’ve got to expand?
Rodney Lawson (17:59)
it’s a little bit of both. but in the DFW area, we’re the number one, area in the entire country for hell storms or wind storms. So we get a good hell storm in here. A company could go from 2 million a year to 8, 10 million a year. If they have the right structure in place where they start to fail sometimes is they start spending the money before reinvesting back into their company.because you’re going to not have a storm every year in your area. And so what you have to do is be able to be prepared for what are you going to do to sustain that growth or to continue that growth with the current overhead that you have in place. And if you go out and just spend wildly and you’re buying trucks, you’re doing this and you’re not really putting money back, you
you’re going to put yourself in a tough spot, especially if you haven’t taken care of your bills. I know a company about 10 years ago, they’re no longer in place. I’m out towards southeast of the Metroplex, about 30, 35 miles. I won’t mention the company, but back in 2014, they had a heck of a year. They were more knowledgeable or they were more…
What, they were more experienced, had more of a reputation in good or bad in the area that I was in. I just moved into the area and, he left three, I know three vendors, he left hanging for a million dollars or better. And the reason he helped left them hanging is cause he couldn’t pay his bills. He was, he was selling and moving really quick and doing well. they.
Dylan Silver (19:42)
Wow.Rodney Lawson (19:52)
put money on the account and he left them hanging and that’s a tough deal. And you know, I will never do that. I pay my bills as fast as I can. And like right now we’re ending the year and if I owe anybody, it’s less than 2 % of what I have in the bank. And that’s just the way I operate.Dylan Silver (19:59)
JustYou know, that’s an interesting point when we talk about, you know, parts of this business like roofing, which are heavy on materials, right? So you’re effectively floating a lot of your costs and that can get tricky when things go wrong, when things go sideways. That’s an interesting point that I think people don’t take into consideration. There is a level of, you know, risk management. There’s a level of
you know, financial conservatism that you need to exercise in order to be successful in this business long term.
you know in roofing specifically, because you’re dealing with volume, you’re dealing with scale, and you’re dealing with large numbers of materials and costs, that these can add up very quickly. And if you run into even a small hiccup, but that goes unnoticed, this can quickly derail a whole operation. And you know this level of risk management.
probably should be exercised, when it’s not, can be disastrous for folks.
Rodney Lawson (21:22)
Well, you’ve got risk management in several areas. Like I said, we’re about to take on a bigger project that if something goes wrong on that, that’s a risk management because it’s one thing, most roofing companies start off doing 15, 20, maybe $30,000 homes. But then once you move, try to, if you’re trying to scale up one of the areas, there’s two areas I think when you’re trying to scale up that you have to be very mindful of.And either you as the owner had to be on top of it or you had to have a good right-hand person. My daughter runs my office. So she is, I can trust her fully. And that brings open another thing that I’ve seen happen as well. I’ve seen office managers that were not connected to the owner that skimmed out the top and left the company hanging and the owner didn’t know it until it was too late. That’s a problem. But
Dylan Silver (22:15)
Yep.Rodney Lawson (22:17)
Where most companies, I think, run into problems is they start spending the profits and before they’ve collected 100 % or they’re not basing it on what they’ve collected to date. And the other key is a lot of owners are trying to get perks by different vendors. So they’re using multiple vendors. And what happens with that, that’s all fine and good.until, like you said, the numbers escalate to where they’re out of control and they haven’t paid attention to staying on top of their bills 30 days or 60 days or whatever it is. so what happens is let’s say they’re using supplier A or supplier B and they’re trying to get parts by the both of those suppliers because that’s a part of it. And they don’t
They don’t pay attention. Hey, what’s my balance over here? And it grows and grows and grows. And this one over here grows and grows and grows. And then by, by and large they’re stuck because now it’s grown to 200,000 or 60,000 or whatever it is. And they don’t have it in the bank to pay. And then they’re stuck.
Dylan Silver (23:33)
It’s too much.Yeah, and that’s exactly how it happens. It’s just the snowball effect. I’m not in the roofing space personally, but I have worked quite a bit with flippers, fix and flippers. And this was really, I would say, before we had as many new homes being built as we have now. So this was a couple of years ago. Now it’s very hard to do, I wouldn’t say very hard, but it is more challenging to do fix and flip. And so what I started to see was flippers,
basically count their eggs before they hatch, meaning, okay, we’re gonna exit this home, therefore we can afford to put EMD, money, on this other home. This home is, we’re definitely gonna exit it within two to three months for sure, we’re not gonna have any issues with it, it should sell before then. But what ended up happening was these homes were sitting, they would have EMD out, earnest money out on three to five different properties, they.
either couldn’t get it back or they were unable to get it back for whatever reason. And that’s how this ends up snowballing to the point where they’ve got this home sitting on market. Now that they have holding costs, they gotta figure out if they can even sell that home or if they’re gonna have to rent it out. And then it becomes a whole other issue to where they’re thinking, maybe I should just get out of this business.
Rodney Lawson (24:55)
Well, and what we face in Texas, because we’re so insurance driven, and that’s another area where I’m trying to move to more of a retail area and get out of the insurance driven is insurance hold the checks up. And, you know, that’s the other thing. And it’s like what you’re talking about with the earnest money. If a house doesn’t sell when they think it’s going to sell and it sets out there, you’re stretched because you can’t tap into that house and pull that earnest money out.And the same thing with us is if we’re doing a project that the backloaded on the what they call the depreciation money and it’s 15, 20,000, we’re waiting on that 15, 20,000. I literally just got paid a week ago on a situation that was over a year old and halfway between or 10 months into this trying to get
Dylan Silver (25:47)
wellRodney Lawson (25:53)
it paid and all the current insurance company that was serving the claim bellied up and went out of business. And there was no guarantee that the new company was going to pay the depreciation. And like I said, it was, you know, for operation like me, I can handle one or two, a few of these, but it was $14,000 and that’s still $14,000 and that’s a lot of money.Dylan Silver (26:05)
Sure.Yeah.
If you’re having three to five of those and you’re a smaller, that that’s all it takes to put you out of business. are coming up on time here though, Rodney. I want to talk tennis before we go. So I grew up playing tennis. My dad grew up playing tennis. My cousins, aunt and uncle grew up playing tennis. You know, and I think
Rodney Lawson (26:30)
You’re exactly right.Dylan Silver (26:46)
Tennis in the United States, when I was growing up, it was the end of Pete Sampras run, we had Andy Roddick. Now I do feel like the attention has shifted away from tennis to an entirely different sport. We’ve got pickleball, right? And it’s interesting, because pickle, I lived in Denton, so I was in DFW Metro as well. There’s a beautiful pickleball place in Denton.Rodney Lawson (27:00)
Yeah.Dylan Silver (27:09)
at what used to be like this old pharmacy. And so it’s this beautiful indoor, I mean like state of the art. They’ve got like, know, they can call your balls in and out. You can do reviews. I’m like, this is amazing, right? They’ve got mobile apps. So people are paying good money for the growth of this sport. From a business standpoint, Rodney, do you feel like tennis kind of dropped the ball in the United States where they could have done some of these things, like have multi-use?You know, it could have been a tennis place. They could have had food there. I don’t know what they could have done, but instead we’ve got pickleball. Do you feel like tennis dropped the ball a little bit?
Rodney Lawson (27:48)
⁓ That’s a good question. I’ve always wondered that myself. The problem is, man…I’m old school. I’m a older than you. I remember the days of Everett, Gouligon, Virginia Wade, and Jimmy Connors, Patrick Mack, John McEnroe. I was huge Boris Becker fan. You got any reason why, you got any idea why I might be a huge Boris Becker fan? I I love Boris Becker. And, but…
Dylan Silver (28:10)
John Macker.Rodney Lawson (28:24)
to circle back to your question. So they had a lot of tennis centers. Waco is a huge tennis town, Wichita Falls was a huge tennis town, Rockwall, Texas, which is right east of Dallas Fort Worth, is a huge tennis town. And I used to play out of one of the places called the Oasis, and now they have converted a lot of their courts to pickleball. And you’re exactly right. Pickleball has taken over. And I’ve talked to a lot of my friendsDylan Silver (28:46)
to pick a blog.Rodney Lawson (28:53)
And I was that guy that said, I’ll never play pickleball. I’m going to play tennis as long as I have. Well, also in that room right there, I built or I painted a pickleball court on that room. we have, we do play pickleball and all. some friends were like, I thought you said you’d never play. I do, I do believe that tennis in the United States struggle because after,Dylan Silver (29:08)
Yeah.I’m gonna do it.
Rodney Lawson (29:21)
the, if you look at the big three and the men that we just came through and we’re about to come through two more now. you had, Djokovic, you had, Rafa and you had, Oh, the, Federer. Yes. I, I, I can see his face and everything and noise from Switzerland, but so you had those three, what’s messing in those three.Dylan Silver (29:35)
Fetter.Rodney Lawson (29:45)
In America.Dylan Silver (29:47)
That’s right.Rodney Lawson (29:48)
And same thing now, you got Carlos and Center, what’s messing in those two? An American. And you got, you had a couple that made it to the semifinals of a couple of places and we’ll see what happens in the Australian Open. know, last year, Madison Keys won the Australian Open and there was hope that Madison Keys…Dylan Silver (29:56)
It’s rain.Rodney Lawson (30:15)
might take the mantle because really nobody’s picked up the mantle from Serena Williams. And, you know, Serena was very polarized. You either really liked her or you really didn’t. And so, you know, you just don’t have, you know, back in the seventies and eighties, people loved Jimmy Connors. People loved the fact that Jimmy Connors and Chris Everett were a possibility of an item, even though they really weren’t.Dylan Silver (30:21)
That’s right.This round.
Rodney Lawson (30:44)
But they, well, they were when she was a teenager, but she moved on and people love Chris Everett. And if you, mean, they, and they love Tracy Austin and I could go on and on. Then Andre Agassi, people love Andre Agassi. And you know, Andre Agassi and Steffi Graf, who married, are now heavy in the pickleball scene. And if you’re not careful, they could carry that torch over to the pickleball.Dylan Silver (30:58)
Yeah.Yeah.
Rodney Lawson (31:14)
but there’s nobody coming up that can carry that. I mean, there are some guys out there and there are some girls out there that are doing well in tennis, but they’re not just the one like it was in the seventies and eighties. And I think.Dylan Silver (31:29)
Let me ask you this, Rodney. ⁓This is a really, I would say, explosive area of conversation because tennis, and I wasn’t alive during this period of time, so I don’t know for sure, but I have a gut feeling, tennis in the 70s and 80s was like a status symbol, that if you had tennis courts being built somewhere near where you were, that that was a sign that real estate prices were on the rise, that this was a good area. And in many cases, you’re seeing that now with
Pickleball if you’re having pickleball facilities being built. There’s probably like a residential, you know apartment complex being built over there You’re probably gonna have a top golf nearby like it’s a good sign at some point in time though These tennis courts whether they were you know in I grew up in the northeast in in northern, New Jersey At some point in time these indoor tennis facilities and these outdoor courts became Distressed and you started to see them become dilapidated
Was there a specific reason that that was happening? Was it just kind of tennis was losing interest? Was it we didn’t have a champion or did people just stop developing these courts?
Rodney Lawson (32:39)
Other, the kids went to other sports. both of my kids never really played tennis. My daughter played volleyball. All these select sports really took off. Volleyball, basketball, girls softball. Guys went to, you you got kids right now by the thousands playing soccer and baseball. And it just all…tennis never you had, and actually I tell people tennis was the sport that went to select sports before any other, because if you were in tennis and you were trying to get better in tennis, you were trying to get ranked. You were trying to get, you know, I still to, I haven’t played, but I’m considering going back out playing the levels format and getting ranked again in the state. was ranked about 15 years ago as an adult.
But it just wasn’t nobody, like you said, everybody started pushing their people into soccer, baseball, basketball, boys and girls, volleyball for girls. And tennis kind of fell. They didn’t capitalize or they didn’t get in front of those kids and they didn’t get in front of those people and those kids. And like you said, it was a very elite sport. So it didn’t reach the masses.
Dylan Silver (33:41)
Yep.Rodney Lawson (34:01)
If you look at the story of Venus and Serena, it was their dad that took them out and in the streets of LA and in the public courts of Los Angeles, and he was the one that taught them. And then he moved to Florida and put them in an academy and they took them on. And it was kind of like a deal where I want to say,Dylan Silver (34:07)
Yeah.Rodney Lawson (34:24)
I could be very wrong on this. I don’t know that full story, but I think he made a deal with them. They’re going to make pro. And I think they were given the Academy took a chance on them that it would pay off and they’d get a little bit of the percentage in their initial years. I could be that I can’t prove. I don’t know. But I don’t think that they admittedly, I think it was a really big risk, but he taught them.Richard Williams, the one that taught them.
Dylan Silver (34:53)
Yeah.the account. That’s another thing too, which is tennis is like golf, right? Is such a tricky sport. And then there is a financial barrier to entry as well, that it’s very difficult to get better on your own by yourself. You know, even baseball, you know, while while tricky, right, you could go to a batting cage, and it’s not going to be as expensive as you know, hiring tennis coaches or entering, you USTA events and, and the like, but
Rodney Lawson (35:11)
It’s offensive.Dylan Silver (35:25)
Hey, I don’t know what the future of tennis is. I just know that pickleball is like the most participated sport for adults in the country. So at least racket sports are doing.Rodney Lawson (35:36)
Well, and the last, last thing I know, I know you got to wrap it up, but the last thing on the pickleball that, and with you being a real estate, you would know more about, I’ll defer to you on this, but the brilliant part of it right now is restaurants are building pickleball courts to draw people in. And that’s part of real estate and restaurants never built tennis courts to draw people in. Hey, come play doubles. And, but they’re coming. mean, we were over at.Dylan Silver (36:00)
we did.Rodney Lawson (36:05)
place in Rockwall not too long ago that had two or three courts right out there that are, and you can go drink a beer, drink a whatever, have a bar food, have chicken fingers, whatever, you know, cheese fries, whatever. And you can play pickleball with your friends while you’re there. And they’ve got music going on and you’ve got these restaurants called Chicken and Pickle Now. You’ve got, ⁓Dylan Silver (36:30)
yeah, I lived next to one andin San Antonio for a while.
Rodney Lawson (36:34)
Yeah, and so that’s a drawing card too that’s making people play more. And when you start playing more, then like you said, I’ve started looking at plans on a barn dominium and some of the barn dominiums have pickleball courts in them. It’s fascinating. ⁓Dylan Silver (36:48)
in them. That’s right. We are we are comingup on time here though Rodney. Where can folks go? Where can our audience go if they’re interested in reaching out to you or their team for their roofing needs? How can folks get in contact with you?
Rodney Lawson (37:02)
Well, it’s Tiger Roofing TX. That’s T as in Tom X dot com. Or you can get us on Facebook. We have a page on Facebook, Tiger Roofing, or reach out to me, Rodney Lawson. My page is pretty open to everything. And I mean, I’ll help you with anything we can. We do all types of asphalt roof. We do specialty roofs and we do metal roofs. And I always⁓ Every so often I put on a little content, either content on the just a post or a short video on things that you need to look for before storm, after storm, or things ⁓ for insurance. ⁓ I think it’s important to people, especially those that live in Texas and really anywhere, you need to check your homeowners policies at least once a year, if not every six months.
Dylan Silver (37:57)
Rodney, thank you so much for coming on the show today.Rodney Lawson (38:01)
Well, hey, I am so glad. hope it was a good show for you and I hope it’s a good show for your viewers because I think it’s important to do that. And I was glad to be a part of it. We, every other Friday, and I’ve got one this Friday called Tiger Talks and we go a little bit more and I, I usually share it on my page. So if you want to know a little bit more about us, Tiger Talks this Friday.
