Why Mindset Makes Millions in Real Estate Investing, Entrepreneurship, and Financial Freedom

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In this insightful interview, Jillian shares her journey from finance and video production to successful real estate investing. She discusses overcoming limiting beliefs, the power of mindset, and practical strategies for achieving financial freedom and lifestyle flexibility.

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Jilllian Ezra (00:00)
It’s lifestyle. It’s freedom.

it’s, you know, like family could be important to you. Adventure could be important to you. Like, why are you doing all of this? So you start with that every morning and then you reverse the beliefs every morning. Just like re, rewire this belief. I call it manifestation. Sorry. You look at your goals, like what is it that you’re creating in the world?

Micah Johnson (01:53)
Welcome to the Real Estate Pros podcast. I’m your host, Micah Johnson. And today I’m joined by Jillian from the streets of Paris, who’s been making some serious moves in real estate investing for the last six years now. Jillian, welcome in. Glad to have you.

Jilllian Ezra (02:06)
Thank you, I’m glad to be here.

Micah Johnson (02:09)
Absolutely, I’m excited for our talk today. You’ve been doing some cool stuff in the industry, actually in the short-term rental, mid-term rental space, just understanding. You nailed some things I loved in our pre-recording call of how to get the most out of a market, how important education is, how to make sure that you’re, honestly, you’re actually investing and not gambling is how I took it, like to make sure you’re successful. So I’m pumped to dig into today’s call. So for folks that are listening in that aren’t familiar with you yet, tell us more about yourself and what’s your main focus right now.

Jilllian Ezra (02:38)
Sure, I actually have a background in finance and public relations and I built a video production company and saved money and invested it in the stock market and eventually bought my first property. That was in 2021 and I’ve been buying properties ever since.

Micah Johnson (02:55)
that, love that one. Okay, so you built a video production company, why real estate? What led you to where you are today?

Jilllian Ezra (03:03)
So a couple things. One is I kept seeing, I kept meeting random people who either didn’t work much and were making a lot of money or were just making a ton of money and were very happy and they had always invested in real estate. And so I started actually, I went to bigger pockets and I was like in like 2020 or something, 2019. And I saw Brandon, you know, like burying these like teeny tiny little houses.

And then I started listening to the podcast and I was like, if they can do it, I can do it.

Micah Johnson (03:41)
I love that and it’s true. It’s true. We’re actually, I’m going to touch on this early because it was something we were talking about of really that belief that that’s not for me belief and how much it can hold us back. How really it is. It is the first thing you have to get over to do anything big is to actually believe is for you. I’ve been through it. It’s funny when you get on the other side and you realize like that was the thing holding you back the whole time.

Jilllian Ezra (03:52)
Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Micah Johnson (04:11)
Huh, like all I needed to do was just believe it was for me and all this other work I was doing was gonna line up, right? All these other things, because you work so hard, you work so hard. But when you’re working hard and not believing it’s for you at the same time, the universe listens, right? That’s a mixed signal. You’re just creating a little thing in your life, which is exactly how it felt. I was like, why is life so chaotic right now? Why, why? And that’s when I fell in love with journaling and realized, it’s me. I’m the one doing this.

Jilllian Ezra (04:29)
Exactly.

I

love that.

Micah Johnson (04:42)
Yeah, yeah, it’s a powerful thing. tell us some ways because I think we’re definitely not the only ones that identify with that. What have some ways that you’ve been even in that moment and sense to allow yourself that growth even to video production, right? Like it’s that’s an entrepreneur thing, in my opinion, not just a real thing.

Jilllian Ezra (04:59)
yeah. No, I’m an entrepreneur. think

really investing is just one part of it.

So you were asking how do I get?

Micah Johnson (05:08)
take it. The

that’s not for me. How have you overcome that through the thing because you were listening to the podcast and really? All right, that’s not for me. When else have you seen that? And how have you overcome that as you’ve gone along?

Jilllian Ezra (06:09)
Well, no, actually, I listened to the podcast and I said, if they can do it, I can do it. you know, listening, know, immersing yourself in education and immersing yourself in education, coming from people who have come from where you come from, or even like a worse place shows you it like you have to see to believe it, that it’s possible for you. So there’s actually I actually use a process. So number one is figuring out

Micah Johnson (06:15)
Right.

Jilllian Ezra (06:39)
the most important things to me. So it’s like, I love creativity, I love luxury, I love freedom, I love all these different things. And then I figure out exactly what it is I wanna create. I wanna make an extra this much per month, I wanna live here, whatever it is. And then I do a combination of journaling and meditation and figure out what is it.

that I believe, like what are my negative beliefs around this? Why do I believe this is not for me? What are the stories that I’ve been telling myself that I probably picked up from childhood with the media or whatever? Why is this not for me? Why is this not possible? And then that’s when I go into meditation and there’s this whole like neural manifestation process. ⁓ And then I flip it and think, what if that were not true? What would it look like if that were for me?

And then I realized like, oh, everyone started somewhere. Everyone. And like, not everyone was born rich. And I think honestly, so I mentioned I had a video production company, have one, and we make these legacy videos for families. And one of them, we made a video for the owner and founder, builder of the Four Seasons Beverly Hills. And he, I don’t know if I’m allowed to say this, I don’t think he would mind.

Micah Johnson (07:41)
Right

Jilllian Ezra (08:06)
He stopped going to school when he was 13 years old. And his parents were immigrants to this country. And they moved to California because people in their community told them that they could buy wholesale flowers from the flower market and hawk them on the side of the road and not starve to death. So he dropped out of school, not dropped out, I’m sure his parents said, you’ve got to start working when he was 13. And so did his wife.

Micah Johnson (08:28)
Mm.

Jilllian Ezra (08:36)
And they were both in the flower business and they ended up getting married. And I just, you cause I was interviewing for this legacy video, we went through the whole story and it was like a combination of like saving your money, being strategic, ⁓ making good relationships, dumb luck, and ⁓ absolute confidence.

Micah Johnson (09:05)
Mm.

Jilllian Ezra (09:07)
So, okay, so where was I going with that? ⁓

Okay, so I was saying that you’ve got to reverse those beliefs. The next thing I do is I look for like what I call expanders. ⁓ I look for people who come from where I’ve come from or worse. Like, so this guy would be an expander who is where I want to be. And then I, that shows your brain. Again, you can sort of see it to believe it and go, my God, like if they can do it, I could do it. Like, my God, like maybe that’s actually possible. So sort of immersing yourself in those, you know,

people that expand your belief in what’s possible for you. And then it’s continual reversing of those beliefs. It’s continual, like every day going back to what are those core values? Why am I doing this? My core value isn’t money. Like I’ve made money. Money gets you a certain level of happiness. And then it’s just really not a lot from there.

Micah Johnson (09:49)
We’re

Jilllian Ezra (10:05)
⁓ It’s lifestyle. It’s freedom.

it’s, you know, like family could be important to you. Adventure could be important to you. Like, why are you doing all of this? So you start with that every morning and then you reverse the beliefs every morning. Just like re, rewire this belief. I call it manifestation. Sorry. You look at your goals, like what is it that you’re creating in the world? And then you write down three action steps you’re going to take that day towards those goals.

So that’s sort of my process.

Micah Johnson (11:10)
Love that.

love that. I’m going to work backwards in it. I love the fact that you’re breaking it down into little steps because that’s how all of this works. If you’re listening or watching it, it’s tiny steps. There’s not that much you can do each day. I’ve journaled ⁓ actually in a week. It’ll be every day for the last four years. And I go back and I read it.

And I just look at life and I always journal. I journal like this morning, I woke up and journaled about yesterday. So I lived the full day sleep on it. And then I write about what stuck out to me. Like, what was I thinking about? What would I trying to do? Work, family, husband, like all the things I’ll tell myself what’s going on. And it really showed me not much happens each day. It’s really not much. Most of life is just in the middle. It’s something you’ve already started. You just need a little shove and a little shove and a little shove. And it’s.

Jilllian Ezra (11:59)
Mm-hmm.

Micah Johnson (12:04)
Real estate is a great example. There’s very few beginnings and there’s very few endings and it’s mostly all in the middle. Most of your life in real estate is spent under contract. If you’re doing this, that’s where you’re living. Closing days only happen once every so often. if you’re saying if you’re only living for that paycheck, we’ll only do something for so long because it financially pays us. If it doesn’t pay our emotional paycheck, no one will do it long enough.

Jilllian Ezra (12:11)
Mm.

Yeah.

Micah Johnson (12:31)
unless they start to hate themselves. You will start to hate yourself eventually if you continue to do that. It is, it is.

Jilllian Ezra (12:35)
That’s most people though. go to school, go to work every

day and they’re like, F my life.

Micah Johnson (12:43)
That’s where what you just nailed down is, the key step. You have a question I ask myself every morning. Are you willing to accept self honesty? Are you? If not, you’re only, you’ll only grow as far as you’re willing to be honest with yourself. And then what you else you’ve nailed down is perspective. Perspective is the most valuable thing you can have in my opinion. On my Facebook banner, says perspective is greater than it’s everything. Your perspective on a situation is, the story you’re telling yourself. And as someone.

I know what it’s like to overcome those beliefs. I was raised in a doomsday cult in the of the woods. Like I was raised by people who believed the world was going to end. And when you absorb that, you’re talking about stuff, not just not being for you, like everything’s like, so and that you don’t have to be raised in a doomsday cult for that environment, but you nailed that where you really got to take a second and pay attention to.

Jilllian Ezra (13:17)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Exactly.

No.

Micah Johnson (13:37)
When I got into personal development, this question started going off in my mind. I was working with my first coach. He was asking me some questions I never thought about and it hit me. It’s like, why are you the way you are in all the ways you are? And I went on a long journey to understand, like, why do you have that reaction? Why do you tell yourself that story? Why this, why that, why this, why that? And it all came down to, they were all absorbed ideas and I built my whole life on them. And you were saying that earlier about childhood. Most of the stuff we tell ourselves we can’t do, you absorb that somewhere.

Jilllian Ezra (13:48)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Micah Johnson (14:08)
Because when I watched my little kids grow up, I never saw them tell me they can’t do something. They were always out doing stuff. They were always like, when you’re really like that real version of you before it gets, you know, for puberty, before experience, before like life does its thing and we got to outgrow that part as adults, you’re this person who is truly, they believe they can do anything. don’t, the only story they tell themselves is curious ones, right? It’s not answers to the wrong questions.

Jilllian Ezra (14:12)
Mmm.

Mm-hmm. Right. Mm-hmm.

Micah Johnson (14:36)
And I was like, okay, how do you get back to that? Because when you get back to that, everything becomes possible. Now when you, and you nailed it, the questions that you just said about why am I actually doing this? If you’re a high performer out there, doing more is your problem. We can all do more. Doing ain’t our problem. Why we’re doing what we’re doing. Are you actually getting closer to the life you want? Or are you just doing more? Because that’s where I see high level.

Jilllian Ezra (15:03)
And it’s the state you’re doing it

in. It’s also the state you’re doing it in. you’re, it’s, if you’re in this state of like, my God, I’m not doing enough. I’m not going be able to get there or I’m not good enough. You’re going to stay there and run on a hamster wheel. But if you come at it from a place where you’re regulated, you are in a good head space. You believe it’s possible for you all of a sudden. Things just start lining up.

Micah Johnson (15:06)
Right? Right? Why are you doing it that way?

Jilllian Ezra (15:31)
Like, in fact, I was doing this journaling exercise the other day about goals, and it was like somebody else’s journaling thing. And I was answering the questions and I don’t know if I’m allowed to curse. Within like five minutes of being done with that, I saw this podcast opportunity and I was like.

How cool is that?

Micah Johnson (16:33)
That’s that dumb luck part you mentioned. It’s funny how often you get in the way of it when you start living intentionally. It’s what attracts it. It’s doing things on purpose. That’s why knowing why and working backwards, you’re Charlie mongering it, invert. Where do you want to go? Work backwards. That’ll tell you, and this is what I show people, what it’s also going to show you is where you are right now. That’s the part you can’t get upset about.

Jilllian Ezra (16:40)
Mm-hmm.

Right?

Micah Johnson (16:59)
A lot of people get butthurt right then because they’re way further away than they ever thought. And that’s where it’s just like, look, it’s okay. Do you, at least you know where you are. Now you know what to do next. Right? That’s the key. Every, you know, everybody has big dreams getting into real estate, but you’ve to become the person to pull the big dream off. If I just gave you a thousand units, you’d lose them in a month. But if you go become the person who can handle a thousand units, you’re going to handle 10,000 units. And that is.

Jilllian Ezra (17:00)
Mm.

Hmm.

Mm-hmm.

That’s a good point.

That’s a really good point.

Micah Johnson (17:29)
That is the journey of life. That’s where you mentioned something pre-recording about that same legacy video where he mentions it’s all a cycle. Real estate’s all a cycle. And I’ll expand it. Life is a cycle. It’s what it does. My therapist even says it goes, Micah, life gets good and you think it can’t get any better and it gets better and you think it can’t get any better and it gets better and you think it can’t get any better than this and it gets better and then it gets a little worse. You think it can’t get better.

Jilllian Ezra (17:43)
Exactly.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Micah Johnson (17:59)
does and you just ride this thing but the important

Jilllian Ezra (18:00)
Yeah, exactly.

Micah Johnson (18:03)
version of it is you and that’s really you nailed it earlier it’s calm that is the ideal state look at any champion sports is my favorite place to go view this I’m I love golf I tried to play it professionally like I was obsessed with it but one thing I noticed about the pros on Sunday on the last nine they slow down they are not going fast

last group, the last player you want to hear Tiger, go listen to Tiger Woods interviews about winning, he won always on Sundays. They slow down. had the pleasure of working with Tiger, one of Tiger Woods’ coaches. And it was, it was incredible. What he teaches is a champion’s greatest word is restraint. You don’t take the field until you’re ready. No champion just wanders out there. And then once you’re out there, the ideal state for a champion is calm. If you are not calm, you cannot compete.

Jilllian Ezra (18:54)
you

Micah Johnson (18:57)
I was just like, whoa, whoa. Like it’s as simple as it sounds, but I’ve looked at my whole life and looked at all my problems and saw, dude, you just flipped out is what you did. You just literally like, oh, chaos mode and just broke all your stuff. What if you didn’t do that? And that’s what my journal literally lays out as four years of stopping that okay, I’m doing it here. How do you fix it? Do it here. And what I love is it works just like compounding interests. The longer you live that way,

Jilllian Ezra (19:07)
Mm-hmm.

Right, right.

that.

I’m going to

Micah Johnson (19:25)
grew up farming, I call it farming time. You can literally predict the future by living that way. You won’t know when it’ll happen, but you will know that all I gotta do is these actions for long enough and that’ll create a result every time. Results are activity plus time. The version of me doing it, what matters.

Jilllian Ezra (19:39)
It’s so true. It’s so true.

When I first started investing in real estate, my first investment was during COVID and I was not in a good place. Not in a good place. Like I had taken basically all of COVID to like deep dive inside. Cause I was running this video production company. I wasn’t happy. I loved it at the beginning. I loved storytelling. And then I became a CEO and I was dealing with accounting and HR and payroll. And it was a disaster, not a disaster, just a disaster inside. was like, I hate this.

⁓ and I just was in a very dark place because I went again, deep inside and then sort of like dealt with all of it on the way out. ⁓ and then my, won’t even get into all the details, but I literally, this is, so I have a journal that I actually like share with clients and sell, but I literally made this, this like Excel spreadsheet, which was the beginning of this journal with exactly what I told you about.

And I made myself do it every single day. And I did this work that I was telling you about with like, you know, inner child and shadow and blocks and boundaries and all these different things. I did it with a group of women. Actually, we met like every day on Zoom. I’ve never met them in my life, but they’re amazing. Anyway, so within…

like three to six months. And again, I was in a dark place and it was, I had a video production company. This was like end of 2020. There was no video production going on. There was nothing like you weren’t allowed to. So ⁓ that’s actually when I started consulting, which is a lot of what I do now, which is so amazing. Anyway, so. ⁓

Micah Johnson (21:19)
Right.

Okay.

Jilllian Ezra (21:30)
Within like three to six months of finishing the last one, which was a workshop on finances, I bought like a million dollar townhouse overlooking the ocean in Malibu. And like, there’s no reason that I should have been able to do that, none whatsoever. And by the way, I learned creative financing without even knowing it. I put down $30,000 on that place. Yeah, because I was, I…

Micah Johnson (21:53)
Hmm.

Yeah.

Jilllian Ezra (22:00)
figured out well if I can move this money over there and that I can do it and then you know just Chipping away at it, but every single day I would go back to who am I what do I want to be about? What is it that I’m creating? It’s possible for me What is the belief that I’m reversing and then what are my three steps for today? And I’m telling you within three to six months. I had done this and it was like like

Micah Johnson (22:22)
What?

Jilllian Ezra (22:25)
a huge contract had to come in from a client because I was like, how am going to explain to the bank that I’m financially stable? But literally a huge healthcare company called me and was like, we have a few hundred thousand dollars to spend on a commercial. Could you help us? And I was like, yes, yes, I can help you.

Micah Johnson (22:33)
Thank you.

Yes.

I love that. And the key there, you said, you said the magic words. It’s 90 to 180 days. That ain’t random. That is something I’ve noticed by journaling every day. 90. ⁓ my God. I call it the 90 day mentality is something I’ve written about where if you can understand that you truly don’t get paid for any of the work you do today, especially in your personal development, the real payment starts 90 days out.

Jilllian Ezra (23:00)
really?

Micah Johnson (23:16)
and it requires you to become that. Because that’s where I’m able, what I document in my journal is like when I start questioning a belief and I talk about it, how long, and then when I start to notice I don’t have, it’s just natural, I’ll write it back down. So I can watch literally how long it takes to change a belief. It really only takes three days. The first three days are the hardest where you’re have to remind yourself the most. By day four, it’ll start to sink in where you only have to think about it a few times that day. Really by a month,

Jilllian Ezra (23:19)
and

Micah Johnson (23:46)
in, you don’t really fight with the feeling anymore. By three months, absolutely natural. It’s absolutely natural. And I used to believe I was the most broken, worthless human being. That’s what I was taught. To now, I’m one of the most, I’m valuable. I have value. I’m worth, I’m worthy of being loved. I’m worthy of all the things. And for me to get to there, I can tell you that’s a, if you’re listening out there, if I can do that, you can do that. was.

Jilllian Ezra (23:52)
you

you

Exactly. Exactly.

Micah Johnson (24:12)
supposed to

die six years ago from my life experience due to self-inflicted death and I’m 40 now. So I feel like I live in bonus time. Like I outlived the experience, is like boom, and then being able to grow from there. it’s really, that’s what I found that you deal with in personal development. Here’s some great questions I found for myself to ask. Go understand who your parents were beyond the fact that they were your parents. Go understand them as human beings.

If you’re old enough now, if you’re past 25, you can understand who your parents were as humans. Right. And when I did that, that’s where I started to see, ah, I see why I was told these stories. I know why I was raised in a cold. I know exactly why y’all went there. I don’t blame you. I was doing wild too in my mid twenties. Right. Like I could see why. And then what I had, it was perspective. I wasn’t angry. I wasn’t upset anymore. I was just like, okay, now I see. And what that did is put me, how much work do you really have to do?

Jilllian Ezra (24:49)
Bye.

Micah Johnson (25:09)
And my journey in took about five years. It took a long time to find where my feet touched the ground because you’re peeling that onion back. And what I’ve learned is don’t, don’t be too fast to build on stuff as your personal development. Cause if you build it, like I view it like a bridge. If the road’s broken here and I build a bridge here, I built a bridge on a broken road, y’all. Like the road is still broken. Fix the piece underneath. And if you find that one under that’s broken.

Jilllian Ezra (25:12)
Yeah.

Micah Johnson (25:38)
Because each life experience, you just create the new story. And like I’m way out here on Story-Azillion and it’s like working back to story one where it’s like, okay, here we can make real change. And at that place in your life, that’s like those 90 and 180 day moments is in my journal. That’s how it looks is you hit these new phases where it’s like, can see it. I understand what’s going on here. And that next one will unlock and it’s, it’s beautiful. There’s a rhythm to it. And you’re describing, I love hearing other people’s journeys because that’s

have ADHD and I pattern everything. I, so I do, look to here like, okay, you’re having that same experience. Perfect. Life’s a science experiment to me now. That is, if you take it personal, it gives you bad things. If you look at it like, with slight amusement, it will reward you in beautiful ways.

Jilllian Ezra (26:13)
Yep.

for it.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

The one thing I would say is that I do think it’s possible to like, I hate to use this word because it’s so woo woo, but like manifest like almost instantly. Like I don’t think things need to take 90 to 180 days. I mean, to reverse the belief, I actually think it takes a lifetime, but to actually do something. Like I got this prompt from social media the other day. Again, I you not. It was like,

ask chat GPT, how can I make you you know who I am, I constantly talking to chat GPT best friends. Always so nice to me. Like I’m always right. It’s amazing. I’m so reasonable. Everything I do perfect sense. Anyway, so it was the prompt was like something along the lines of like knowing what you know about me, how can I create x amount of money in the next 30 to 60 days or something like that. And

Micah Johnson (27:04)
Right. ⁓

I’m

Jilllian Ezra (27:25)
I was like, what am I gonna do? This is so stupid. But I put it in and it started answering me and I was like, that’s actually a good point. And then I think it was like, she gave a list of questions to ask and by the end, I realized I had a call scheduled with my ideal client the next morning. And I didn’t know what I was gonna say on that call. Because I was like, I don’t know how I can help this guy. I think I know, but like.

Micah Johnson (27:47)
you

Jilllian Ezra (27:53)
I don’t really know, like, I don’t know for sure. And then by the end of that exercise, I was like, this is exactly what I’m going to do for him. my God, like, I’m going to change this guy’s life. like he’s, he’s so lucky. And I…

The next morning, I pitched him and within like a week, I had $5,000 from that client. And I was like, Instagram for the win. know, was like, what the But it’s like, was that quick change that was like, my God, I already have it. I already have it. It was right in front of me.

Micah Johnson (28:23)
Yeah.

so true. It’s so true.

That’s the story.

That’s the story and that’s what’s beautiful about it. change your story, you can change your life. That is instant. That is 100 % instant. Your opportunity is telling it to yourself the next day when a new version of you is awake. And the next day when a new version of you is awake. And that’s that journaling part that showed me it’s like, ⁓ I don’t wake up the same day every day, but I do wake up the same again over time. So it’s like these series of me that have to wake up and believe it until the repeat gets back, right? And then when that guy’s back, it’s like, good.

Jilllian Ezra (28:52)
Yeah.

Micah Johnson (29:10)
Now we’re believing this all throughout the month.

Jilllian Ezra (29:13)
You know what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna put

together those questions and I’m gonna make it available to people. So if you contact me, I’m gonna give you a PDF. I’m gonna write it down right now of those questions.

Micah Johnson (29:20)
Hola.

Okay.

Jilllian Ezra (29:25)
Cause I swear to you, $5,000 just boom. And I did it so confidently and I feel so good about like, oh my God, I’m changing this guy’s life. And it’s so easy. It’s so easy. What he needs to do is just a simple shift.

Micah Johnson (29:40)
Well, no, please do. Yeah. I say this, answers are a dime a dozen. A good question. That’s its weight in gold. Cause that’s most inspiring voice we hear is our own. And that’s why questions work so well. That’s why I like, I’ve, I’ve trained a, a, a custom GPT called the Clarity Lab, which that’s all it does is just ask you questions. Yeah. It’s, it’s programmed and designed to ask you questions and it’ll actually track it for you on Google.

Jilllian Ezra (30:01)
love that. ⁓

Micah Johnson (30:08)
So if you give it your email, it’ll keep track. So if you don’t like to write, you can literally use it as a daily journal where it’ll just keep tracking it for you. And all it’ll do is ask you questions. It’ll ask you if you want advice on something. I designed it to let it ask it. But it’s really question driven to really understand and get past. Because that’s what helped me. Good questions help me. I don’t have anything to tell you that’s new, y’all.

Jilllian Ezra (30:21)
That’s good. I love that.

Micah Johnson (30:34)
We’re all repeating ourselves just saying different ways. the stuff we know has been known a long time. You just got to figure out who says it the way that makes sense to you. Who says that stuff in a way?

Jilllian Ezra (30:43)
One

more question that can change my life in an instant is what would it look like if it worked out? No, no, what if it worked out? What if it worked out? What would it look like? And it’s just like, my God, I didn’t even know that was possibility. But you don’t know when you’re in it that that’s what’s stopping you. And that’s why it’s so important to have.

Micah Johnson (30:57)
Right? ⁓

Jilllian Ezra (31:10)
you know, people around you, whether it’s mentors or groups or coaches or consultants or therapists, whatever it is, having that mirror, having like a smart mirror to ask you those questions is life changing.

Micah Johnson (31:24)
It is, is. And especially from folks that you can trust. you didn’t come to that answer, you didn’t get to the question by accident. That’s what helps you find good questions, is life shows them to you. And then I couldn’t agree more. Connecting with other people, that’s how we compress time. You can learn all the lessons on your own and you’re going to die who knows at what age, but you wouldn’t have gotten nearly as far if you borrow information. It’s my favorite thing I started doing was, who can I find?

Jilllian Ezra (31:32)
Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

and

Mm. Totally.

Micah Johnson (31:52)
That’s ahead of me on the curve. That’s out there. Show me what’s coming. I don’t want to have to guess anymore. Did that enough, right? Like it’s people can tell us, especially most of the things we want to do, especially in real estate have been done before. Somebody has done it that we can go talk to. Like real estate is an old industry. It’s not reinventing the wheel here. Just go find those folks and plug in with them. Jillian, these are the kind of conversations I can have for quite some time, but I want to

Jilllian Ezra (32:05)
Mm-hmm.

Yes.

So true.

I know

Micah Johnson (32:18)
I want to plug in on that because one thing I tell everybody on the show, know, when we bring professionals on, talk to them. What you’ve created in your midterm rental, short-term rental business. And we didn’t dig into it much today because we hit, think, one of the more important topics, which is the mindset that’s behind everything. if folks that are listening in out there, you know, what I’m really glad they got was a good view of who you are and how you think about it, because that’s what I think is important. That’s what I think makes things successful is people intentionally thinking their processes through.

Jilllian Ezra (32:34)
I agree.

Micah Johnson (32:49)
So for those that want to find out more about you, follow along with what you have going on, possibly connect with you, where’s the best way for them to get you?

Jilllian Ezra (32:56)
I would say Instagram,

that’s where I’ll put this PDF. It’s Jill.ventures. So J-I-L-L dot V-E-N-T-U-R-E-S. And believe it not, my website is the same, Jill.ventures. So ⁓ connect with me on Instagram and I take clients through this process. ⁓ Typically people who are already pretty high performing, but they know they’re sort of getting in their own way or they want something bigger or they want a more free lifestyle.

Micah Johnson (33:10)
Okay.

Jilllian Ezra (33:26)
I live anywhere I want, anywhere in the world at any time. Like I was in Paris over the winter and I was like, it’s too cold. So I went to the Middle East and I went to Indonesia and then I went to Thailand. And I was like, I think I’m ready to go back to Paris now. And then somebody invited me back to the Middle East and I was like, okay, that sounds great. And then met all these amazing people, got super inspired and then came back to Paris. So like, this was my dream.

in 2015, I remember sitting across from my friend in Starbucks and going, I just want to be somewhere in life where I just get like deposits into my account. I don’t have to chase clients or manage people and any of that I just want deposits to my account and I want to be able to live wherever I want in the world. And I want to be able to learn those languages and just embed myself in everyday life. And I’m taking French classes. So, yeah. Thank you.

Micah Johnson (33:55)
anymore.

All of that, I love it. Well, congratulations. I want to make sure I say

that to folks who pulled it off because that’s the, we all get in this for something. And I love folks getting to see and hear the journey of people who’ve accomplished it. So again, if you’re listening in out there, follow along, check out Jill’s, Jillian’s links. We’ll have them in the show notes below us. Again, follow along with professionals, follow along with people who are doing it and have done it because that’s who we can learn from. Jill, thank you. Jillian, I keep saying Jill.

You go by Jill at all. I said, and it was like, wait a second, how’d that get stuck in my head? All right, it’s been an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for being here today. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for all those listeners and viewers out there. Thank you all for being with us. If you all got value out of today’s episode, please like this episode, share it with someone else. Make sure you go follow Jillian to get that free PDF, use those questions and telling y’all it’s powerful. If you don’t subscribe to our podcast yet, click that button.

Jilllian Ezra (34:48)
Because Jill.ventures. Yes, absolutely.

⁓ thank you. Me too.

Micah Johnson (35:17)
We appreciate every single one of you that follow along out there with us. We’ve got more conversations coming up with operators just like Jillian, people out there building a real business in the industry. Thanks for being with us. We’ll see you on the next episode.

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