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In this conversation, Rob Rowsell discusses the transformative power of AI in business and personal life. He emphasizes the importance of integrating AI into daily operations, particularly in real estate, to enhance productivity and efficiency. Rob shares practical insights on how AI can serve as a valuable tool for managing tasks, making decisions, and even learning new skills. He encourages listeners to embrace AI as a means of personal growth and contribution, highlighting its potential to revolutionize various aspects of life.
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Rob Rowsell (00:00)
So how do you remember all those deals, all those details? What was the preferred interest on that passive investment? When did I get into that? When does it mature? What were the promises made three years ago when I got in? I can’t remember all that stuff, but what I can do is I can sit down with chat.I can have it interview me, answer all those interview questions and quite full transparency here, Dylan.
It knows when the insurance expires on every single one of my deals. It knows what the interest rate is on every single one of my deals. It knows when the loan matures. So I can just go in and say, hey, what do I, what do and we talk and strategize about goals.
that are coming up. But what is my six months of 2026 goals and which properties and what please break it down into a weekly goal setting or goal planning and monthly goal planning? What’s success look like in 180 days? And it does all that with me, not for me, but with me because it’s not smart enough to know all the answers. I need to still guide it. But I will tell you, if I had somebody on the payroll at $75,000 per year, it could not remember all those details.
Dylan Silver (02:46)
Hey folks, welcome back to the show. Today’s guest, Rob Rowsell is a multifamily operator, turnaround specialist, and multiple business owner. He is living proof that discipline and God’s grace can rewrite any story. Today he coaches Christian leaders and investors to eliminate drift, take uncomfortable action, and build both their character and their cash flow. You can check out his channel on YouTube at Rob Rowsell. Rob, welcome to the show.Rob Rowsell (03:15)
Thank you so much, Dylan. It’s a pleasure to be here, brother. Thank you.Dylan Silver (03:18)
It’s great to have you on here and we were chatting for a little bit of length before the show about AI and how really this is now kind of the thing where if you don’t get on the AI train, you might get left behind. I don’t know, but it seems like you’ve really grabbed the bull by the horns and have dove straight into AI.Rob Rowsell (03:40)
100%. You know, what I realized once I got past the initial stages of AI, like so many people need to go through, right? You need to have that, your toe in the water, figure it out. It’s really starts out as a Google on steroids, right? Where we’re Q and A in it, which is level one, which is what we call an on the fly prompt, right? Then we graduate to repeatable prompts, which is a prompt that I generate, that I take some time to develop, that I know I’m going to use over and over again. So I save it wherever that might be. And thenThe next level is ⁓ agents, we call them agents, but it’s custom GPTs where I’m creating employees inside my business to do certain tasks. I have a CFO employee, I have a brand guardian that makes all my contents. I have a sales wizard for the sales that we do. And I have a think like Rob Rowsell chat GPT so all my employees can stop asking me so many questions at the lower levels and just know be from the transcripts that I’ve had from training other employees.
We put those behind the scenes and what’s called the resources and people, I shared the custom GPT. They click the link, they ask the questions. And you know, it’s amazing how it’s taken away 90 % of those questions that I used to answer on a weekly basis for my.
Dylan Silver (04:52)
Is there a reasonable learning curve for someone who has no AI exposure or someone who thinks, well, I don’t know if I’m the right fit to be using AI. Can they expect, is it one month, two months, three months, six months? How long will it take for them to go from an outsider looking in to fully integrated in their systems?Rob Rowsell (06:02)
Yeah, I would say, look, if you’re going to integrate AI and you should be every person on the that’s listening to this podcast should be at some level or another, whether it be personal or business or running a church. doesn’t. That’s just another business, a nonprofit of some sort. need to adopt it. My suggestion to everybody. I’m a little bit overkill. I spend an hour or an hour and a half learning AI every single day, Dylan.every single day right now with the rapid fire, the way things are compounding and the way things are coming out. But I recommend, but everybody’s not like me and you, I totally get it. So I say, look, 15 to 20 minutes a day. Think about the time that people are wasting on social media or other form of media. Just convert 15 to 20 minutes of that dead time towards learning AI.
Start with the basics, I can make some suggestions. I have some free resources available as well up on my website. I just recently did a two hour free class of the basics right into how do I do the settings on ChatGPT, which I’ve got so much positive feedback. I was amazed at how many people just don’t have it set up so that the AI knows them and can answer them better. Yeah.
Dylan Silver (07:16)
Yeah,no, no question. And as you were talking, I was just clicking on a video of yours. So if you heard a guitar string come through that was that you’ve got several videos that are up right now. And we were talking before the show, I was watching one about vacation planning and how you’re able to speed it up. And we were talking about how using the agent, it can do all of your vacation planning, like while you’re waiting, basically. So you don’t even have to be
Rob Rowsell (07:22)
Hahaha! ⁓Dylan Silver (07:44)
necessarily monitoring, hey, is it doing everything correctly? Because it’s at the point now where with a relatively straightforward prompt, it can do all that legwork for you. If it can do it with vacation planning, it can do it with your business as well, right?Rob Rowsell (08:00)
100%. As a matter of fact, as it gets to know you, as you train this employee of how you think and what your tone is and what even for our marketing, what our colors are, what our website looks like, it creates everything for us without having to teach it again. I always say that teaching AI is 10 times, takes 10 times longer than teaching a new employee, but once it gets it,it gets it better and remembers things better than any employee ever will be capable of. know, we have, as you know, you know, there’s a real estate podcast. We have 3000 units are located throughout the country, owned in different various ways. of them, naturally my wife and I own north of 300 units ourselves, syndications with other investors, joint ventures with friends, relatives and neighbors. And then we’re passively invested in
other people’s projects around the country as well. Some really good operators that we’ve met along the way that’s non-active investments for us.
So how do you remember all those deals, all those details? What was the preferred interest on that passive investment? When did I get into that? When does it mature? What were the promises made three years ago when I got in? I can’t remember all that stuff, but what I can do is I can sit down with chat.
I can have it interview me, answer all those interview questions and quite full transparency here, Dylan. I spent 11 hours over a period of three days having an interview me about all, because I didn’t remember all this stuff. I had to look all this stuff back up, pull out old old PPMs, private placement, memorandum documents that I had signed of other people’s as well as my own to put all that in for to answer all those questions. Then I asked to condense it into six documents.
Those documents are now the resources and now that is my employee, my CFO. It knows when the insurance expires on every single one of my deals. It knows what the interest rate is on every single one of my deals. It knows when the loan matures. So I can just go in and say, hey, what do I, what do and we talk and strategize about goals.
that are coming up. But what is my six months of 2026 goals and which properties and what please break it down into a weekly goal setting or goal planning and monthly goal planning? What’s success look like in 180 days? And it does all that with me, not for me, but with me because it’s not smart enough to know all the answers. I need to still guide it. But I will tell you, if I had somebody on the payroll at $75,000 per year, it could not remember all those details.
Dylan Silver (11:14)
I want to ask you a granular question here. For folks who are single family investors, maybe they’re flippers or they’re in the multifamily space, whether that’s five to 10 units, 50 units, or they may be buying apartment complexes or the like. What types of use cases can you have AI potentially take over as far as paying an employee you mentioned full-time salary? Are we at a point right now whereRob Rowsell (11:15)
It’s true.Dylan Silver (11:43)
someone with let’s say a chat GPT subscription can have, you know, property managers who are AI employees. Are we there yet?Rob Rowsell (11:53)
I don’t know if we’re fully there, although I’m just scratching the surface even as deep as I’ve dove already, Dylan. I feel like I’m just scratching the surface, but I’ll give you an example. I have a remote team member, also known as a VA, and she’s at the CPA level. And we have gotten her on board with, and it wasn’t part of her job description. It wasn’t part of the got to haves, as I call them when I hired her a year ago.to know AI, but I’ve since adopted AI full on and she’s very innovative thinking. She, with my guidance, has developed a custom GPT for each one of the properties, because they’re all a little bit different, whether it’s 105 plex or 32 plex. And she takes the P &L or income statement that we get from the property manager for that particular property. She uploads it ⁓ to chat for that agent.
and it spits out an executive summary like, and I’ll give you an example. Like I have one property manager and it’s a smaller complex and for those that don’t know, those are managed a little bit differently. They’re managed a little bit differently. What I mean by that is rather than having a three to four and a half percent management fee, it’s gonna be a higher rate because you don’t have a full-time employee, you have no payroll, you don’t have anybody living at the property like you do a larger complex. So there’s a wash there.
7%, 6%, usually 7%, but then they charge you, because there’s no payroll, they’ll charge you a trip fee, $20 trip fee to go and whatever, ⁓ Section 8 into Inspector Property, Maintenance Guy, whatever, but my negotiated deal with them in this example, and I’m going in the weeds with you, so bear with me, my ⁓ agreement with them is $20.
Dylan Silver (13:37)
Yeah, yeah.Rob Rowsell (13:42)
one time on any given day. So if somebody goes three times, you’re not hitting me with 60 bucks worth of trip charges, you get one a day. But wouldn’t you know that I get more than one $20 trip charge. to look at an income, and I’m calling the income statement, which is another word for P &O, it’s actually a statement of income and expenses before that we do the P &O. when to find those extra $20 charges is like a needle in the haystack, right? Not to mention,Dylan Silver (14:08)
Yeah.Rob Rowsell (14:11)
Some of our tenants, these are C-level apartments, some of our tenants pay the rent in different tranches. Like they’ll pay 400 on the second, 200 on the fifth, and then they’ll pay the last bit of it past what would be the late fee day, which is the fifth. And so you’ve got to sit there and manually go through and check and see if your manager charged late fee. By feeding it up to chat, it summarizes all of that stuff. It tells me, hey, you got…three trip charges on the same date, you’ve got this tenant, and I can take the rent roll and put it up there and we’ll take all the rent that was received and compare it to the rent roll and tell me whether or not my manager got the right amount based upon what the rent roll says, and if any of those showed up past the fifth, did they charge a late fee? Are they seeing the late fee? It does all of that. And I asked my remote team member,
How long did it used to take you? Because I’ve never gone deep as I asked her to go. She said it was taking me four or five hours. How long does it take you now? 20 minutes. That’s the goal of AI.
Dylan Silver (15:54)
I was thinking about the ability for everyone to become a manager of some level. Even if you’re a very entry level employee, let’s say you’re a student in school, right? You can then start to operate like a manager because let’s say you have a busy schedule between school and the job and then a calendar and you’re trying to fit in some semblance of a social life in there.It can be challenging even to just have these spinning plates in the air as an individual person. I know a lot of young people can relate to that. And we’re not talking about real estate investing. We’re just talking about managing a schedule. can start to layer this to where you’re thinking, okay, I have this AI which is gonna help me, let’s say tutor. I have this AI which is gonna manage my calendar. I need to have some kind of budget in here and it’s helpful for me to get a second opinion on this. At some point, maybe we’re there right now
Rob Rowsell (16:27)
yeah.Dylan Silver (16:51)
the average person can start to look at their own life as hey, I’m managing this versus I’m just in it, right?Rob Rowsell (16:59)
Yes, 100%. Absolutely. As a matter of fact, I’m just doing the research on it now, Gemini has really been going overboard with some releases this past 30 days. Some of that is right within a free, for those of us that have Gmail and have Google calendars and have Google Docs and that whole ecosystem, it’s free to use it until you get past a certain point. You’ll learn it for free where they’ve gotagents that will go in and check your emails now. And we’ve always been able to set up systems inside of Gmail where one coming from one sender, you could have it automatically archive it and grab the doc. Now you can literally do that with a few sentences typed into what the bot is you’re commanding it to do all within Gmail, all for free. And it’s just the beginning. Look, 180 days from now.
AI will be 10x. We are at the worst it’s ever going to be, the slowest it’s ever going to be, the dumbest it’s ever going to be right now. So now’s the time to get the basics down. Yeah.
Dylan Silver (17:53)
Yeah. Yeah.Yeah, I mean you you hit the nail on the head. I remember if we go back 180 days six months ago thinking AI voice was going to be it’s nowhere where it needs to be. I remember getting some of the calls to my phone and thinking this is not believable and just it was clunky. Now it’s you can’t tell. I mean I can’t tell and I’m someone who uses it and some of them are better than others but I have this experience where
Rob Rowsell (18:11)
So, right?Right.
Dylan Silver (18:33)
It’ll fool me. I won’t know immediately. And so I’m thinking, well, where is it going to be in 180 days? Like I can’t even predict where you could you could say something to me that seems outlandish. Like, you know, on one level, you know, it’ll be so good that for like legal opinions and personal accounting and business accounting tax strategy, it’s going to take over for all people who are in those roles. That seems outlandish to me, butVoice got so good in that six month time period. I’m not putting that off the table.
Rob Rowsell (19:05)
Absolutely. And you know, it’s funny you say that because I was sharing my time saving detail that I just shared with you with my remote team member putting those income statements right up in the chat and getting the initial basis off of which to work with my CPA. And he said, yeah, we’re doing that too. I mean, we he’s literally doing tax returns by doing the initial upload and summarizing people’s documents right in chat. So we are going that direction, whether you know it or not.and whether you want to accept it or not, I’m not talking to you because I know you’re on board. were talking before we started recording. I know how on board you are. you know what? Everybody just needs to look. If you’re looking for a sign that AI is something you need to tie into, consider this your sign right here. You just need to find your guy. And I encourage everybody, find your guy on YouTube. Maybe I’m your guy. Maybe you can connect because I do start at the very, very basic level. But pick your niche now.
There’s chat, there’s Claude, there’s Gemini, there’s perplexity, there’s Grok. You don’t need to learn all of the LLMs they’re called, large language models, but you need to start with one. The most popular one is chat, because it was first. So I encourage people to start there, get comfortable. You want to get more visual or more into writing, that’s going to be Claude. If you want to get more into research, that’s going to be perplexity. It has come a long way. It’s becoming more than just research, but it’s
Not only does the research like Google, it provides you links. So as you’re reading the results, you can click links and it takes you to the 14 places that it researched after doing the work. So they all have their specialty. So I would encourage you, find one of them, grab a hold of it and get the basics down. What is it? 20 minutes a day, 20 minutes a day. We all should be spending 20 minutes a day.
Dylan Silver (20:53)
And you canactually, as we’re talking about this, I’m thinking I actually learned the local dialect of Spanish they speak in the Dominican Republic through having a conversation with ChatGPT. it speaks, not only does it speak fluent Spanish, it speaks the localized dialect of Dominican Spanish. And so if it can do that, you can probably, hey, develop a prompt where it’ll understand how to direct you as far as learning. ⁓
Rob Rowsell (21:05)
wow.That’s awesome. That’s awesome.
Dylan Silver (21:22)
learning AI as well. Yeah.Rob Rowsell (21:22)
A new language. Yeah. Yeah.Well, you know, it’s funny you say that because one of our big pillars is contribution within my community. And my wife and I, ⁓ three years ago, we started, I went down with my church to Tijuana and they build homes five at a time in two days. Hard to believe, but it happens. so you, I love it there, man. I absolutely love it. Yeah. We go to.
Dylan Silver (21:42)
What was it like in Tijuana?Was
it, was security, safety? Were you concerned at all? It was good.
Rob Rowsell (21:51)
Not at all, not at all. We’re part of a compound down there. It’s called Homes of Hope, which is a division of YWAM, Youth with a Mission, very well known ⁓ international organization. They’ve been there for 20 years. And I will tell you, we’re down there helping their people. It would be very, very bizarre if any harm came to us because of what we’re doing for the local area. But that’s one of the things where I was going with this was I started using chat.Dylan Silver (21:57)
Mm-hmm.Rob Rowsell (22:20)
As my Google Translate I’ve used for years, my wife speaks Spanish, but I don’t always have her right by my side. And I always fear the loss of the full meaning of coming from my heart in translation. When I can do it into a translator, I know they’re hearing every word the way I meant it to be heard. So I started using Chat GPT and I will tell you.It is absolutely amazing because I asked my wife, how was that interpretation compared to Google Translate? She says, I’ve never heard a better translation ever before. it and it doesn’t matter the language, you just tell it. You know this language inside and out for this part of the country and it becomes your translator. It’s amazing, man. It’s pretty cool.
Dylan Silver (22:44)
It’s amazing.It’s incredible.
mean, it’s actually able to literally speak in a local accent, which is blowing to me that it would be able to do that because now I’m thinking, well, if it can do that with Spanish, I wonder if it can throw in different dialects of English, how they’re speaking here versus another place of the world. What about Chinese? There’s so many different versions. So it’s going to open the world. ⁓
Rob Rowsell (23:06)
Wow.That’s amazing. Absolutely.
Dylan Silver (23:27)
We are coming up on time here now Rob, where can our audience go? Where can folks go if they’re interested in learning more about you and the project that you’re working on, as well as maybe if they’re interested in AI, how can they maybe reach out to you and get some feedback from you?Rob Rowsell (23:43)
Yeah, fantastic. My website is my name. It’s RobRowsell.com All my information is on there as well. I’m not a very creative guy on Facebook, ⁓ Instagram, well as ⁓ YouTube. It’s all Rob Rowsell Search for that same name. You’re going to find me there. I do have new like you stumbled across my YouTube channel with shorts.around three minutes long going into the AI, going into me actually teaching in my class. But I also have, if someone messages me on any of the platforms, I also have a link to our two hour master class that we just did. If you sit down, the nice thing about a master class and recording, you can always play it on 1.25 speed. I know you do that, Dylan. I know you do. Because it’s about time management, right? So I do too.
Dylan Silver (24:31)
yeah. Two times.Rob Rowsell (24:35)
I talk a little fast, you might have to put me back on one every now and then. that is a phenomenal class that teaches you the basics on the AI stuff. you know, I know this is a real estate podcast. For those that don’t know my story, I was living on the streets homeless in 1999. I’m a recovered, recovered crystal meth crack cocaine addict. I’ve gone from homeless to homeowner.to multiple business owner. was auto shops. That’s what I bought and sold numerous of those businesses to, but along the way, along the way, I wanted to be a good steward of God’s money because I know it’s all his anyways. And I really wanted to get some education on how to invest properly. So we started house flipping and wholesaling and probate and ended up in four plexes and 20 plexes. And now our last acquisition was 233 units here in Las Vegas, Nevada, where I live. So.
Just, I say all that not to brag on me, but to brag on God because He’s the reason for all of that. If you let Him steer the car, He’ll steer you in the right direction. But I say all that to just to plant a seed of belief, a seed of belief in the listeners to this that anybody can do anything because I know God makes it look really, really good with me right now.
But I’m not the guy that came stumbling. You’re not looking at the guy that came stumbling in that 30 day rehab back in 1999. But he, no matter where you’re at in your wealth walk, your walk with God, your health walk, your personal development walk, your contribution walk, those are the pillars we talk about in the Addicted to Life community. Wherever you’re at, you can accomplish anything. That’s the message I want to share.
Dylan Silver (26:09)
Amen. Rob, thank you so much for coming on the show today.Rob Rowsell (26:12)
God bless you brother, thanks for having me.
