The Ultimate Guide to Construction Success: Build Like a Pro!

Brett McCollum (00:00.898)
Welcome back to the show guys. I’m your host Brett McCollum and I’m here today with Adam Metzler. And today we’re going to be talking about construction. Before we do guys, at Investor Fuel, we help real estate investors, service providers, and real estate entrepreneurs to 2 to 5X their businesses and to allow them to build the lives they’ve always dreamed of and the lives they’ve always wanted. Without further ado, Adam, how are you man?

Adam Metzler (00:23.801)
Hey, what’s going on buddy? You doing good?

Brett McCollum (00:26.264)
doing great. Dude, thanks for being on the show. We got to catch up a little bit pre show and you know, we were talking a little bit like real estate is a big small world, know, it’s like how do we, one of those things where we haven’t really gotten to know each other yet, but like we have a lot of the same friends, which is kind of interesting, you know, so, but yeah, before we kind of get into all the things and talk, cause we’re going to talk a lot about construction today, but before we do, can you kind of tell us a little bit of background about Adam, who you are, how you got into real estate, construction, that sort of thing.

Adam Metzler (00:31.25)
Yes.

Adam Metzler (00:54.291)
Sure, absolutely, Brett. Well, thank you so much again for having me on the show. It was great catching up. And to get into the nitty gritty of things, so Adam Etzer here, 45 years old, Houston, Texas, and loving it down here. I’m from Minnesota originally. Came down here in 2006. I call it the freezer to the oven. From negative 20 to 120. So Ben did that, and I’ve got married 13.

Brett McCollum (01:16.024)
Yeah. Yeah.

Adam Metzler (01:23.827)
13 years, I’ve got six kids and four of my wife now and all the way from 19 to two. In 2000, what is it now? 14, I left corporate USA. I was there, I worked for Best Buy for 10 years. Ended up being a national strategic account manager. Really loved it, but yet I kept having this prompting of there’s something more, there’s a glass ceiling. So I kept looking into it and I found out, well,

Let me research millionaires and billionaires. And when I did that, I saw that 80 to 90 % of them got all their real estate and sustained their wealth through real estate. So I was like, well, I got to start looking into this within about a year or two. Cashed out the 401K, jumped in. And now I’ve been on the proverbial jump off the mountain, hitting the side all the way down, waiting for that parachute to open up. And construction’s been the big piece of it.

Brett McCollum (02:16.363)
Yeah.

Dude, so you’re at, in corporate America, you said you were there for about what, 10 years, or take?

Adam Metzler (02:27.219)
Here’s 04 to 14, yep.

Brett McCollum (02:29.474)
Wow. Yeah, so here’s, that’s so funny. Like, I know a lot of people, it’s something about the, I guess I’ll ask you this question. Growing up and how you grew up and even into your adulthood, did you consider yourself entrepreneurial or were you always like, not really?

Adam Metzler (02:49.939)
That’s interesting because I really wasn’t. I don’t really even remember entrepreneurship on my radar in my entire life. My dad was in sales though. I do remember that. So he did run his own. When you’re in sales and sales management, you run your own kind of business per se within a business, right? And then I remember him starting a couple of pallet companies and this and that. But that was about it. And so really it was just sales. But I did get into business account management again, which was

running my own business. He was always home. He was always taking me to baseball. So I saw that lifestyle and I liked that. It wasn’t like a nine to five job. So I kind of catered to it a little bit, but not directly.

Brett McCollum (03:30.328)
Sure. Yeah. No, and I’m same here. Actually, I grew up, I mean, being a business owner was not even remotely close to my radar, right? It was just a, you know, it was a beautiful mistake almost, right? It was like, Whoa, what just happened? Like, how did we get here? yeah. But at the same time, now I look back and like, man, I don’t know how to look at it at life differently now, you know, and, you know, I God has a plan that we

Adam Metzler (03:47.719)
Yeah, now we’re here.

Adam Metzler (03:58.759)
Well, and then.

Brett McCollum (04:00.024)
Don’t necessarily see sometimes.

Adam Metzler (04:02.181)
Yeah, that goes into kind of what we were talking about earlier. you know, it’s like, now I don’t know it any other way. Right. So, you know, when times get tough, which, you know, we had COVID 2020, I I’ve talked about this a few times. They’re like, bro, you’re still in business after starting a construction company in 2019. It may not be all sunshine and rainbows, but you went right into COVID, which was two or three years of all that.

Brett McCollum (04:21.218)
Yeah.

Adam Metzler (04:27.739)
Right. then, you know, the administration and the recession and all the stuff that we’ve dealt with, it’s like, you’re still in business. It may not be pretty, but just think about how you started and made it through and how many people are not here. So I think integrity, in God, stuff like that really all played a part, but it comes with a lot of bumps and bruises. But again, like we talked about earlier, I think that is how you help other people. You got to go through it.

Brett McCollum (04:49.928)
yeah.

Brett McCollum (04:54.766)
Well, guess to kind of that point, I do want to, I promise you, I do want to talk, you know, like high level construction questions with you, but I want, I would be remiss if I didn’t ask, because I mean, you started 2019, immediately going into 2020, there were supply chain issues going on all over the place at this point, there’s all the different things, and then the market, you know, the last couple of years shifting around on it, like, it’s not been an easy, smooth five years, like you said, six years, give or take, you know, whatever that is, math-wise, but what is it?

from some, this is the thing, when you don’t grow up with the entrepreneurial spirit or mind or things like that, this is me, I’m talking about me here, I’m curious to hear your perspective, what is the thing that gives you the grit to not say, you know what, I was successful in corporate America and I’ve proven that, there’s no reason I can’t go back to that, what’s the thing that gives you the grit to stay?

You know what? This is my business and we’re gonna do it.

Adam Metzler (05:56.765)
Man, that’s a million dollar question there, brother. Appreciate that, Brad. That’s good. Hopefully this will speak to somebody. When I look at that, I’m looking at my computer screen. have keep getting up, right? So then got million dollar Metzler over here on this side. So a lot of that, I think I can attribute to martial arts. Martial arts is a big thing. My dad got me into that when I was younger. I was in Taekwondo for like nine years.

And then I was in sports, right? So baseball, football, and then martial arts, all of that competitive drive. And, you know, when you’re in sports and you’re at competitive levels, I played semi-amateur baseball for a few years. And, you know, so I got to a level where it’s like, you you’re all star, you’re traveling, like there’s no, you’re going to bed after playing under the lights at 1130, 1145, waking up at a 7 a.m. game, which you got to get up at five to practice at six to be ready by seven.

and to go for another seven games that day to get to the championship on Sunday, you know? And so I think that grit and that drive and that sports mentality along with the martial arts is really what made the difference for me when I look back at it now. Because yeah, there wasn’t a lot of mentors. There wasn’t a lot of that stuff that I’ve had. It’s kind of been on my own. My dad was good, but not really there. And then he…

Brett McCollum (07:10.158)
Mm-hmm.

Adam Metzler (07:20.039)
took off and it was really on my own. So, and then I had to move from Texas, from Minnesota to Texas. so yeah, I think it was just that background.

Brett McCollum (07:29.688)
Yeah, yeah, because it’s tough, right? You know, like when there is, when you’re looking forward, I think we, all of us are guilty of this. We try to look to find what the end is going to be like. And we try to figure out what’s, how do we, okay, so the goal is X. How do I get to that goal? And inherently there’s nothing wrong with that. But sometimes when that goal is that and you don’t see the end and you’re like, how do I even know that there’s an end anymore? That’s a difficult thing as entrepreneurs to go through. And I think all of us do go through it.

Adam Metzler (07:53.063)
Yeah.

Adam Metzler (08:00.165)
2024.

Brett McCollum (08:00.556)
When it’s, yeah, mean, there’s a different, I here’s the thing, like, when I’m talking with the different people we talk to, everybody’s going through something, right? That’s the thing. Everybody’s going through something. And the entrepreneurs that are like, yeah, this is just part of, like, this is, you know, there’s something about, like, of course, this is the challenge, yeah, you you hear that side of them. And I’m like, man, you’re wired a little differently, you know? But then there’s some of us that are like, I was never wired that way. But I’m, I don’t know, for me, it’s more of like,

But this is my calling and I know that that’s what it is. And it’s in here. It’s just inside of me. And I’m like, you know what? I can’t shake that. I can’t run from it even if I want to. So I have to get through it.

Adam Metzler (08:39.485)
That’s it. Yeah, that’s it. And that’s where they, always see these, you know, proverbial, you know, motivators and coaches and whatnot. They keep talking about the why and your purpose, right? Like it has to be there. It’s cliche, but it’s real too at the same time. Like I look at my kids and my legacy and it’s like, yeah, if you’re honest, right, I can go get a job, but.

Brett McCollum (08:51.04)
Yeah, yeah, it almost gets cliche, right?

Brett McCollum (08:57.134)
If you’re honest.

Adam Metzler (09:03.037)
that I’m not home, I’m not provided for my family, there is a ceiling, nothing wrong with jobs at all. And I’ve contemplated that many, many times and I’ll leave it to God. It still may come true one day, but I’ll be in this fight as long as I can because I see the freedom on the other side and I always kind of picture it as a hockey stick, right? And they always say that too. It’s not working, it’s not working, it’s not working, it’s not working, it’s not working. But then all of sudden.

Brett McCollum (09:07.149)
Yeah.

Adam Metzler (09:26.899)
one day, one project, one relationship, one viral video, and one project, and all of sudden it goes like this. And I’m kind of hopeful for that. So I can, cause I want to give to others and I want to be able to help other people, help my family and help others and be blessed to be a blessing to others. And I think you can do that in a nine to five job, but I think you have some limitations, but anyway, so that’s part of the.

Brett McCollum (09:49.774)
Yeah, no, and I love it. Well, let’s talk about construction though, because I know that’s the whole reason how we intro to our show, it’s what we did. you come out of, like here’s the thing, I don’t know how this happens. You come out of, and I’m not saying this to be crass anyway, I apologize if it reads that way, but you come out of corporate, Best Buy, doesn’t really sound like construction. So how does that translate?

Adam Metzler (10:16.019)
So that was the stumbling effect, right? So I did stumble into construction and I’ll go back to it. So 2014, left Corporate USA, went to another job that had the carrot dangling and the stick and that was absolute train wreck. But I got the taste of some real estate on the side and some of that life. so then I got this 401k. I was like, all right, well, I can.

you know, cash that out and I can live six months if nothing happens. And by that time I should have something happens. I had a mentor or so at the time, which ended up being unfortunately a big fluff, which a lot of them are. So be very careful about your mentors. And so then it was kind of, you know, do I go back to a job or do I make this thing work? And I got into real estate, got my realtors license. I only did a dealer two, barely paid the bills and then ran out of the 401k.

So was like, well crap, this is not good. And so in the meantime, I was figuring out, well, what am gonna do when this money runs out? I don’t really wanna go back to the corporate. I wanna figure this thing out. I think I can do it. I felt it. And I built homes as a carpenter when I was younger for about two years in Minnesota. And we worked year round. We were part of one of the only two construction companies that weren’t union. And as you know, in Minnesota, it gets freezing cold in the winter. Unions stop working and get paid.

these two companies don’t stop working. So I was up two or three stories on double top plates with ice chiseling ice off just to be able to get the next build up for two years and lots of stories there. So I’ve got some experience in construction and I was like, well, how do I, I can’t just jump into building homes. My father and I was in fence company or fence business. So I figured I asked him, asked him questions and I just started a fence company.

I was like, can I can put four by fours and two by fours and pickets together So here we go And I just took off and started the Adams Fence Company and then it turned to Adams Fence Company and construction because people would ask you to do more right? Hey, can you do this concrete? Hey, can you do this? So I started asking the crews and the guys that were working with me Do you know anybody and then they did and we you know what man you answer your phone and you do what you say you’re gonna do and

Adam Metzler (12:31.761)
You might not be cheap, but man, you show up and you get it done right the first time. You don’t cut corners. Your job sites are clean. And so that just led to another thing. Then I got into a real estate flip deal. And it was hard to find contractors that could really be worth their weight in salt. And I was like, you know what? I’m done playing around with this. I’m just going to build my own team. So then we just started with a couple handymen. And then that grew into top notch construction.

which then turned into Top Notch Realty Group and Adam buys Texas Houses. So now we run the construction company and then the real estate company. I’ve got my realtors license. I did that when I first left corporate. So I’ve always had that and I kept it to kind of be able to provide all things to the real estate market. Construction now learning was the hardest one.

Brett McCollum (13:20.078)
Dude, that’s incredible. I bet it was. Yeah. Construction management is another thing, man. there’s like a known thing in the, in the REI world with, when it comes to flipping houses specifically is if you can control the construction, you can control the deal. and that’s actually, if you control the money, you control the deal, but the bottleneck, it always comes into the construction, right? so if you have that handle on that, that’s it, man.

Adam Metzler (13:26.835)
Yeah.

Adam Metzler (13:37.597)
Yeah.

Adam Metzler (13:45.809)
It’s the engine for today. Yeah, I kind of call it the engine, right? Because you can find a deal, you can fund a deal, right? And those only take a handful of people with fairly astute personalities. You start getting into constructing the deal. Now you’re talking about a bunch of people that don’t operate in the same level of…

integrity and life and way of life and way of doing things, right? And in Houston, it’s heavily Spanish, right? So you got a huge language barrier and culture difference, which is great. I love it. But it does create a lot of barriers and it’s not easy. So getting through that takes a lot of time, a lot of experience and a lot of learning.

Brett McCollum (14:35.65)
Yeah, yeah, mean, yeah, but I mean, it’s a testament to your character to continue to push through those, you know, even barriers, if you will, and just saying, hey, you know what? Like, this is a thing that I’m good at. This is what I’m working on. This is, you know, we kind of talked pre-show a little bit, and I want you to speak to this a little bit, because I think this is gonna resonate. There’s a lot of people in the construction space that…

No, like, you know, your contract call a contractor, any contractor anywhere. Okay. Call them. They can tell you, you know, this, that, that, that, that you’re going to need to do this. You need headers here, photos here, you’re to this there and start, just start talking. And the real estate investor comes or is walking that house of the contractor and like, I have no idea what you mean. What, what’s the bid? What’s the bid? Right. Uh, okay. How much is that going to cost me? Right.

Adam Metzler (15:14.845)
Yeah.

Adam Metzler (15:21.875)
That sounds expensive.

Adam Metzler (15:29.075)
Yeah.

Brett McCollum (15:30.188)
But being able, and you mentioned this, being able to articulate it in a way that it’s easily understood and palatable to the investor, like on that side of it, right? How are you able to do that? Like from somebody that you’ve learned it and you’re learning still as we all are, how do you then take that and then regurgitate it to be elementary version for the person like me that doesn’t really get it at all?

Adam Metzler (15:55.973)
Yeah. Well, I think a lot of that has to do with the business background that I have through Corporate USA, right? So we’ve gone through a lot of trainings. I’ve had to grow up that way. And then I’ve had to teach, you know, C-suite level executives about technology, TVs, and the advantages of installing them in their, you know, campus advantage, housing places, and the different things of that nature. And then in construction,

Having the realtor aspect, right? So I have my realtor’s license, and then I’ve also done the investing, I’ve done the wholesaling. Having that multiple angle of experience, I’ve been able to talk to them in a way with the business background on, you know, this is how you build this thing up to get to the next level, right? It’s not just, yeah, boss, we just got a…

you know, knock down that wall and paint this here and put the floor there and put the cabinets over there. That’s like, what does that even mean? What does that do? Like, well, if you open up the wall here, right, your flow is from the beginning of the house is gonna go into the living room this way, which is gonna give your buyers a more loving, warming feel of it. They’re gonna be able to, you know, so just guiding them through that, I think is kind of the realtor side of it, right? So when you walk a house as a realtor,

And that’s kind of where my biggest advantage is where a lot of construction companies don’t have that all they’ve known is just hammer and nail, hammer and nail, hammer and nail. So I think that has a lot to do with it and being able to explain it and articulate it. And then, you know, the corporate side of it, obviously with the business acumen.

Brett McCollum (17:33.72)
Yeah, yeah, because that’s everything, man. Being able to, it’s one thing to be able to like know it’s another thing to be able to teach it, right, and talk about it. You know, in our business, what we do, in the sales world, if you will, is, you know, there’s all kinds of new strategies every day, right? You know, first it was, you know, sub two, and then it was this, then there’s, you know, then there’s, we’re gonna wrap, then we’re gonna do innovations, and then we’re gonna, like, there’s all the, there’s all kinds of things, and they all have their place.

Adam Metzler (17:41.927)
Yeah.

Brett McCollum (18:03.534)
in the right situation, know, and you know, name any number of them, right, kind of thing. So what we would do, what I would do is practice my, if you talk to a seller, you know, and you’re like, hey, we’re gonna do this novation deal with you, and da da da da da, and they’re like, what are you talking about? Like, doesn’t make sense. So we would practice on our children, you know, I would say, okay, like, hey, does this make sense to you 10 year old son? You know, and if he says no, I’ve,

Adam Metzler (18:27.975)
There you go.

Brett McCollum (18:33.185)
got to do a better job of explaining.

Adam Metzler (18:36.275)
Yeah, no and that’s actually a great point right and and you actually hit on something maybe that’s part of it too because having kids like All these kids right kind of may I’ve never even attributed it to that right having about a really like elementary explained things like this is why we’re doing this and then that kind of You know if you’ve never had kids, that’s probably a good correlation

Brett McCollum (18:51.864)
Yeah.

Brett McCollum (18:59.638)
It is, there’s a level of value that you’re bringing to the marketplace though, because if you can communicate well with your children, you can communicate well with adults. And that doesn’t mean you’re not talking down to people. We’re talking to…

Adam Metzler (19:07.667)
Yeah.

Adam Metzler (19:11.985)
No, it’s all about simple. They always say success is in making it simple.

Brett McCollum (19:16.878)
Yeah, and I mean honestly like it attributes to your success and my everybody’s right is to be able to like have quality conversations like that But yeah, so one to ask you this so we kind of touched on it briefly for a second there You started 19 covid hits 2020 supply chain issues that sort of thing fast forward. That’s now all unfortunately fortunately in the past Today 2025 rates are up, you know, you know for here my florida market

Adam Metzler (19:39.507)
You

Brett McCollum (19:45.398)
You got rates, got insurances a massive issue, taxes are now going, everything’s kind of really risen and our market slowed a bit. Have you guys had any correlation with that out in Texas? And if so, on the construction side of things, how are you handling that? Like is there draw delays, things like what’s going on in your world with that?

Adam Metzler (19:53.936)
Mm-hmm.

Adam Metzler (20:05.159)
Yeah. Well, I think in Texas and especially in Houston, thankfully, we’ve been kind of median, if you will, in the entire U.S. So we don’t really get a lot of the high highs and we don’t get the low lows. Even through COVID and all of that. mean, Austin’s different. That’s why I say Houston. Houston has been kind of the plumb line of neutrality in the pricing market. But with supply change and the pricing on materials and stuff like that, that has obviously, that impacts anybody anywhere.

And, you know, now I just remember in COVID and even recently too, not the paint wasn’t available, but the material to make the buckets wasn’t available. So you couldn’t get the paint from Sherwin-Williams or these stores because they didn’t have buckets. Like there’s just all types of levels of complications when you talk about that. And then you get into, you know, periodic

shortages of different raw materials that affect lumber pricing and whatnot. So you’ve got to constantly stay on top of things and one of my big trademarks is just being accurate and honest with all pricing upfront and I tell people a lot of times we’re gonna seem higher potentially than some of your other bids but it’s because it’s more accurate, right? We’re not gonna come in and

price of project low, knowing there’s gonna be change orders just to get the job, then get into the job and then change order and move it out, which is unfortunately a majority of the market. You’ve probably experienced that, have you not experienced some of that?

Brett McCollum (21:35.31)
most of that world. Yeah.

Brett McCollum (21:40.099)
yeah, many times over. Yep.

Adam Metzler (21:42.853)
And so just that I lose a lot of work that way too, but I don’t consider it a loss because it’s, know, ultimately a gain when you’re not chasing stuff. But product availability, pricing, staying on top of that, you know, is huge. We get notifications from vendors, you know, when prices are going to go up. Like right now they’re talking 6 to 20 % in some markets at some given point in time based on the world economics of things.

And you just kind of, got to foresee that, right? You got to plan that in your pricing though. And investors and customers sometimes obviously don’t want to hear that, but it’s the unfortunate reality of truth and the ones that are not telling you. We just had a guy in Houston get arrested last night at the rodeo for over $500,000 in bad business and construction.

Brett McCollum (22:33.922)
That’s crazy. The 2025 world that I already saw that too here in Florida. Yeah.

Adam Metzler (22:39.283)
And it happens all the time. And I tell people this up front. was like, hey, man, it’s not expensive until it really costs you.

Brett McCollum (22:48.108)
Right. Yeah. And I think as investors, like our, our mission, right, is to like, let’s save as much money as we can so we can make as much money as we can. Right. Like if I can do this job cheaper than I can make more money here because we’re oftentimes we’re not just flipping one house. You know, we’re flipping, you know, however many and not maybe one at a time, but over, know, over the course of a year, maybe, but it’s a

Adam Metzler (22:58.259)
Yeah.

Adam Metzler (23:06.685)
Right. Three or four. Yep.

Brett McCollum (23:17.174)
I think it’s a, we operate with a short lens a lot of times. We need to look at it from the, hey, you need to look through the end of it all to see like, is this going to be done right and predictable? I’m not going to have to worry about. Yeah. I mean, there’s so much that you don’t know if you haven’t been through it. And unfortunately, if you as an investor haven’t learned the lesson almost, if you haven’t gone through it and learned that lesson, sometimes you’re just like, okay, I hear you Adam, I hear you Brett.

Adam Metzler (23:27.805)
Right, well the soft cost.

Brett McCollum (23:46.318)
but I’m gonna keep doing it anyway. But like, I wish we could get this message across to people to be like, look, price isn’t everything, you know, you need to have the relationship with, especially in construction, with your contractor, with your handyman, with your crews, to be able to have predictability. That doesn’t mean there’s not gonna be change orders still, you can do your very, very best and unforeseen things do happen. But, you know, that’s why we have buffers, hopefully in your budget.

Adam Metzler (23:53.913)
No.

Adam Metzler (24:08.435)
Right. Yeah. But project management is, yeah, and project management is a huge piece. And a lot of it is, there’s just not buying right. Right. So the 70 % rule that we talked about earlier, honestly, you know, that’s, that’s like the bare minimum. I used to kind of scoff at that. I didn’t really understand. Like, you know, some people say, well, I just want to make at least 15 grand on the project and I’m fine. Well, 20 grand in a construction project, if you’re doing a full rehab can happen overnight.

one gas line, you know, one, yeah, right? See? And that’s it. You learn from experience. So I think podcasts like this, I commend you for doing this because podcasts like this get more of the word out. They get people educated from guys that are out in the trenches doing it. I mean, I’m out here doing it every single day, right? I don’t have a tape measure sitting on my desk for no reason, right? So.

Brett McCollum (24:36.782)
Just like that. Learn that lesson.

Brett McCollum (24:59.363)
Right.

Adam Metzler (25:00.627)
when you’re in the trenches and you’re doing it, you can watch my social medias all over the place and learn from people that are actually doing the business. Do your research. Find out what these guys know that you’re dealing with. But project management is a huge one. know a lot of people don’t want to pay for it, but ultimately it’s the soft cost. And if a project doesn’t get done right the first time, that redo cost is sometimes three to 10 times more. if you’re at

$25,000, $55,000 in your budget, budget, right? And it ends up being 20 % more. Like that’s all of your margin to make it. And if you get a good GC, just an extra five grand, seven grand sometimes, and it gets done right, and speed too. So being able to line up one phase after the other without slowing down is big too to go to market faster.

Brett McCollum (25:41.336)
gone.

Brett McCollum (25:56.598)
Right. So you kind of alluded to it a second ago, and I am going to transition here a little bit. Your social media, if people are wanting to follow you more, to see what you’re doing, want to connect with you, maybe just learn a little bit more of maybe some best practices, that sort of thing, what’s the best way to follow you, Adam?

Adam Metzler (26:10.419)
Thanks

Adam Metzler (26:15.903)
Also, I’m working on streamlining that right now, but my name Adam Metzler you can search that up in Houston, Texas But top-notch Houston top-notch construction My social medias are like I said, I’m streamlining that but at like Adam W Metzler or at top-notch Top-notch Houston But like I said, I got a streamline that a little bit more this year as part of my business growth and gold right you start

here and there and then all of sudden you got all these angles everywhere you gotta like get it streamlined so that’s my goal this year.

Brett McCollum (26:51.63)
Yeah, I mean, because me and the investor world, need we need more voices like Adam out there, you know, just, know, it’s not the most sexy thing in the world to talk about, like, get your construction right, get your project management right, get you to do this. But it’s the thing that makes us and breaks us, you know. So I appreciate you being a voice.

Adam Metzler (27:10.003)
Yeah, well, I’ve heard through I work with a lot of the hard money lenders, obviously, and I hear anywhere from 60 to 80 % of all rehabs, all investment deals that go south happen because of the construction. So there you go. There’s no doubt, right? Anybody that’s honest and transparent, 100 % agree with that.

Brett McCollum (27:22.784)
no doubt. Absolutely.

Brett McCollum (27:29.868)
Yeah, agreed. Well, man, Adam, this has been great. I mean, we could, I know we could talk for hours on end about this. There’s so many questions I’m sure we could have, but man, I appreciate you being on the show with us guys. Go find Adam, go find top notch Houston. You know, follow him, like him, you know, and he’s there. He’s a, he’s a great resource to our, to our real estate community. So until the next episode. Go ahead. Yeah.

Adam Metzler (27:33.587)
you

Adam Metzler (27:38.951)
Absolutely.

Adam Metzler (27:45.491)
Mm-hmm.

Adam Metzler (27:52.847)
I am starting a meetup. I am starting a meetup in Houston soon, so I’ll be looking be on the lookout for that. Because construction will be on the forefront of discussion. Yep.

Brett McCollum (27:59.702)
Yeah, guys, that is a absolute no-brainer. If you’re in the Houston area, I mean, which is vast, by the way, but if you’re in the Houston area, you need to go find a way to get to that, because I have no doubt that that’s gonna be absolutely chock full of value for you guys. But yeah, Adam, man, it’s been a pleasure, man, getting to know you a little bit. And guys, until the next episode, we’ll catch you on the next one. Take care, everybody.

Adam Metzler (28:24.283)
Awesome.