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John Harcar (00:00.91)
All right, guys, welcome back to the show. I’m your host, John HarCar. I’m here today with Gabriel Palermo. And what we’re going to talk about is really grinding in real estate to get to your goals. Remember, guys, at Investor Fuel, we help real estate investors, service providers, all real estate entrepreneurs, 2 5X your business by giving you tools that allow you to build the business you want to build and also live the life you’ve always dreamed of. So Gabriel, welcome to the show.

Gabriel Palermo (00:27.571)
Thank you very much, how you doing?

John Harcar (00:29.614)
I’m good, good. I’m excited to talk to a little bit about, I know we talked a little bit before we got on here. Definitely excited to hear more about your journey and I know our audience is. But before we kind of get into all that, why don’t you tell our folks about where you came from, how you got into real estate, what got you here?

Gabriel Palermo (00:47.571)
Well, it’s a long story, but I’m going to try to make it sure I speak a lot. You know, I like to talk, talk, talk. but I’m originally from Argentina. come to a country, but about 25 years ago. And then I go, you know, from job to job. finally, in some point I find out something I like with, was on the bathroom and kitchen refinishing. I say in that I opened my business. I’ve been there for about.

John Harcar (01:11.191)
Mm-hmm.

Gabriel Palermo (01:16.455)
almost 20 years doing that. But about three years ago, my wife, she told, I was very, very frustrated. And she come and she say, Gabe, what you want to do? She use another word, but she say, what you want to do? And come to my mind, well, I always, I want to do, you know, financials. But at that point I say, I just want to move money. And she say, okay, just go and do it.

so she stayed in charge of the business. She keeps the business of the refinishing and I jumped in on the real estate. I meet someone, on internet and I take a course to learn about real estate. So was, well, I’m sorry.

John Harcar (02:03.501)
Okay, who was it? Who was the course? Just curious.

Gabriel Palermo (02:07.871)
Fix now fix up flipping a spaniel is eyes. Yes from a Spanish community Sabrina’s Frank Sabrina Franco So something said tell me okay, just do it. So I just pay for the course. I think was the cheapest Investment I make on my life and the biggest return I get on my life. Okay Yeah, I paid but about $2,500 three days course Friday Saturday Sunday

John Harcar (02:11.065)
okay.

cool.

John Harcar (02:28.117)
Let’s go.

Gabriel Palermo (02:35.743)
I get out from there, was in September 2021. As soon as I get out, for the first time in my life, I listen and I did what they told me to do. I’m not that kind of person, know, like everybody talk about reading books. I’m okay with that, but I don’t know, for some reason I like to crash to the wall, learn and then do it again. That is my type, you know.

John Harcar (02:44.93)
Hahaha

John Harcar (02:50.573)
Hahaha

John Harcar (03:01.185)
Yep, Fail forward.

Gabriel Palermo (03:04.639)
Yeah, exactly. well, I get them the first deal, first fix and flip. I make it really well. Numbers really, really good. As soon as I get that money, I start doing, you start getting buy and hold. Okay. And then I get one, I get two, another fix and flip, I got another hold. Today I got 20 doors. Okay.

John Harcar (03:34.806)
awesome.

Gabriel Palermo (03:34.832)
and then at the same time in the middle time, the person who, reef, who gave me the loan for my first, investment property, my rental property, we become friends and then he is, he, was my lender and then he started talking to me about lending, blah, blah, blah. And I said, wait, I want a piece of that cake, you know? So then.

John Harcar (03:53.773)
Hmm.

John Harcar (04:02.187)
Money makes money.

Gabriel Palermo (04:03.685)
There you go. So then he, he was willing to teach me and I taught him straight forward. listen, I’m going to get in. You’re going to teach me. I’m going to pay my quote. You are going to be working for you, but sooner or later, I’m going to fly by myself. And he say, I’m okay with that. So he teach me. And today we are friends. I don’t know if you hear about Joe Castañeda. He’s okay. So, but he’s a very nice guy. He showed me everything.

John Harcar (04:20.993)
That’s awesome.

John Harcar (04:25.845)
Hmm, not sure.

Gabriel Palermo (04:32.207)
I know everything, as much, know, for the time I was with him. And then I say, okay, you know what? It’s time to fly by myself. And that’s what we did. And so today we have the lending, the lending broker. Okay. We do a bridge loan, hard money, DSCR. Okay. So my wife is the one who is in charge of that. Okay. And I’m outside.

John Harcar (04:36.235)
Mm-hmm.

John Harcar (04:49.719)
Mm-hmm.

Gabriel Palermo (05:00.479)
I’m still doing buying holes. just like like a month ago. I buy the first property for my daughter. She’s 15 To you know, I want to bring my kids on board Even if they do it later if they they say they are gonna do it or not Whatever, but at least they know even if they do us a part-time They’re gonna have the knowledge to to do it because this is a wonderful business and I think

John Harcar (05:08.491)
know, awesome.

John Harcar (05:29.569)
Yeah.

Gabriel Palermo (05:29.919)
what everybody’s called financial freedom is not better than find it, than get it with the reality. That’s what I think.

John Harcar (05:39.319)
for sure. Okay, so let’s kind of go backwards a little bit. You went to a three day course. You actually listened, which was cool. How long did it take you to get your first deal?

Gabriel Palermo (05:47.508)
Huh?

Gabriel Palermo (05:54.816)
I found the first deal on December, okay? But we didn’t close, I think, up to May because number one, nobody told me Harmony Lenders doesn’t lend on mobile homes.

John Harcar (05:59.064)
Okay.

John Harcar (06:06.018)
Huh.

John Harcar (06:13.821)
so this was a manufactured home, okay. Okay.

Gabriel Palermo (06:15.909)
Yes, that’s number one. Number two was on probate.

John Harcar (06:23.201)
We know that extends the time for sure.

Gabriel Palermo (06:25.307)
Okay, and number three, the process to convert the mobile home to a property. There we tried the VIN number. So basically on my first deal, I get so much experience about paperwork.

John Harcar (06:30.773)
into real property.

John Harcar (06:38.357)
I’ve got to say that’s a crash course like nobody’s business right there. How did you find this property?

Gabriel Palermo (06:42.323)
Yes, so yeah. Well, the first thing they told me on the course, dedicate two hours a day looking for properties, looking for wholesalers, making connections. So every day I dedicate maybe not two hours, but at least one hour, trying to make connections and finding wholesalers. So that’s what I did. And the middle time I was looking for properties.

John Harcar (06:56.461)
Okay.

Gabriel Palermo (07:11.677)
But something is something I wanna mention with I think this happened to everybody. The first property, everybody put, that’s what I hear, right? And that happened to me. When you put the first offer, you put it really, really low because it’s like mentally, like you don’t want they approve you because then you don’t know what is gonna happen next. So everybody got that, is scared about that. So that’s where I did it.

John Harcar (07:35.421)
Right, right, right.

Gabriel Palermo (07:40.703)
I know they was asking about about 110 and I say 85 and they come back and they say 95 I say 90 they take it. Okay, let’s move it and now what I do

John Harcar (07:53.994)
Never split the difference, remember? Haven’t you ever read that book? Never split the difference. Well, that’s awesome. So yeah, so you got to cross course in negotiation. You got to cross course in conversion. You got to grab, I mean, that’s awesome. So what do you think were some of the biggest hurdles or mistakes that you made in this first deal? Because everybody makes them in their first deal.

Gabriel Palermo (07:57.822)
Yeah.

Gabriel Palermo (08:16.913)
On the first deal, to be honest, the worst mistake I made, I will say, well, I didn’t have the knowledge about lenders doesn’t provide loans for manufacturing homes. So I will say that, but thank God that we solved. But then…

John Harcar (08:36.042)
Mm-hmm.

Gabriel Palermo (08:41.245)
I have a situation with a permit because I built a little deck on the front and at some point the city passed and they put me in the note. So then I had to do that. I think that’s on that one, that was because the numbers, I make it really well on the numbers, which I never made that numbers again, never again. So I put 37.

John Harcar (08:47.903)
Okay.

John Harcar (08:53.645)
Mmm.

Gabriel Palermo (09:10.367)
but about 37,000 and we was expecting to sell the ARV was between 170 and 180, 185 the mass. We crushed it with 220.

John Harcar (09:20.173)
Mmm.

John Harcar (09:27.499)
so that’s Hamas 100K. Beautiful.

Gabriel Palermo (09:29.361)
Yeah, that was a high grass. How do you say? Grand Islam. Yeah. So yeah, so that one, that one, I don’t want to regret about anything. What I regret about anything in my life, but yeah, yes.

John Harcar (09:34.557)
That was a slam dunk. That was a big dog.

John Harcar (09:46.413)
That’s an incredible first deal. I made $2,500 on mine way back in the day.

Gabriel Palermo (09:52.751)
Yeah, know the first one was very, very nice.

John Harcar (09:58.368)
So after that, what did you do? Right? A lot of people, they get that, hey, my first check, my first money, I’m gonna go buy things. What did you do? Did you redirect into the business, focus, build out? I mean, really just kind of block out the shiny noise?

Gabriel Palermo (10:14.811)
Well, nice you mentioned that because I tell everybody this, at that point I have the opportunity to pay off my truck, okay? But yeah, I say, okay, I’m sorry, I got the truck, I can pay off. That come to my mind right away because I say, okay, I pay my truck, I pay credit, boom, boom, boom, I’m gonna be clean, nice. But then I say,

John Harcar (10:26.017)
Good expense.

Gabriel Palermo (10:43.411)
Then wait, if I buy a property, rental, that rental is gonna give me a truck for the rest of my life.

John Harcar (10:50.859)
Yep, it’s going to make you that car payment for you.

Gabriel Palermo (10:53.343)
Exactly, so that’s so then that’s how I start building everything, know, all everything I have and I say, you know what? I don’t want to pay my truck. I don’t want to pay anything. You know, I’m to keep everything the way I am. I’m solid. So I say, why are you going to spend that much money? I found a place where the numbers work really well for rentals. Okay.

John Harcar (10:56.589)
Yep.

John Harcar (11:18.452)
Mm-hmm.

Gabriel Palermo (11:18.975)
So we’re to say the property I give it to my daughter, we put $22,000 on down payment. And at the time of the refinance, we’re going to recover the 22, she’s going to be making $550 a month, you know, profit. Obviously she’s got to pay me management, know, a couple of things have to go there. And there you go, nothing is easy.

John Harcar (11:35.414)
Nice.

John Harcar (11:40.781)
You will, they have to learn, right? You can’t just give them, give it to them. They gotta learn. Ugh.

Gabriel Palermo (11:45.904)
But you know, and now we have to, we have to pay that money back to the investor. But seeing the loan from with this investor was for one year, we’re going to be able to use that 22 again in another property. Right. So I start building that. So that’s what I started building. And that’s what I tell everybody. If you have 20,000, don’t buy a car. Don’t buy a Rolex. Don’t buy that kind of stupid things. Just.

John Harcar (12:01.355)
Yes. Yes.

Gabriel Palermo (12:13.501)
Get a property and that is gonna pay you for a truck for the rest of your life.

John Harcar (12:17.399)
Well, that’s what people say. It’s like if you want, like you said, you want a car, you want an RV, you want a boat, go buy a house and let that pay for it because it’ll pay for it. Now, so now you’re in the mode of, you you started with a flip and now you’re holding. How do you choose or, you know, what is the main factor which makes you say, flip it and get rid of it or hold onto it?

Gabriel Palermo (12:41.491)
Well, right now it’s because of the market. Where I am located, the properties stay longer on the market. We wasn’t 60 days, then 90 days, and now we are facing 100 days. So that hurts a lot when you have a hard money lender, you know? And some point we, for example, we sold a property like a month ago and we was four partners there and…

John Harcar (12:43.915)
Right.

John Harcar (12:55.627)
Yeah.

Gabriel Palermo (13:09.299)
We just get out with $10,000 split in four. So I say, I’m put my investors’ monies on risk when we can go on different direction? I think you have to understand when something is not working, do not quit. Just figure out the way to…

John Harcar (13:12.373)
Yeah.

John Harcar (13:30.679)
Mm-hmm.

John Harcar (13:35.191)
Pivot.

Gabriel Palermo (13:36.37)
Exactly. So you you make it you can’t change. There’s nothing wrong with changes, you know, and actually you it’s gonna take you to Maybe it’s gonna don’t gonna take you where you want But at least you’re gonna get out from that hole and you’re gonna have the experience for something else and then you can keep moving So we take the personally I take the direction to buy a holes which I was doing already But now I’m a little more focused on that Plus the new constructions

John Harcar (13:41.463)
Sure.

John Harcar (14:03.232)
Mm-hmm.

Gabriel Palermo (14:06.247)
So right now we are facing a very nice competition between new construction and old houses. So everybody, even for 10, $15,000 more, they’re gonna choose brand new house. So that’s why I get out for now. For now, I’m not saying I’m not gonna go back, but…

John Harcar (14:06.368)
New construction, okay.

John Harcar (14:16.642)
Mm-hmm.

John Harcar (14:24.321)
Well, of course, yeah.

John Harcar (14:33.773)
Right.

Gabriel Palermo (14:34.757)
For now, buy and hold is what is working for me and I’m helping people. I told you I love to help people. At the same time, I make money and I put them on rental properties. So basically they can create their portfolio.

John Harcar (14:44.813)
Mm-hmm.

John Harcar (14:56.311)
So you’re flipping, you’re buying and holding, you got a lending company, is there anything else that you’re doing?

Gabriel Palermo (15:04.998)
No, I don’t want to tell you No, no, no Well now I just set up an Airbnb. Okay. Well one property was very nice We didn’t solve the property is Do you know the principal area on Florida? Okay, the PIE is in the fun handle we are but about 40 minutes from mobile, Alabama but it’s very nice and

John Harcar (15:12.363)
Okay, alright.

John Harcar (15:21.694)
Not that well.

John Harcar (15:26.379)
Right.

Gabriel Palermo (15:31.356)
This property is located two blocks away from to one side. We have a boat ramp and the other way and the other side also two blocks away. We have another boat ramp and we have the beach but about five minutes driving. So, so it’s a very good location. I put the, I didn’t have the money. I scratched rocks, walls, everything to get the money. Finally, we, know,

John Harcar (15:38.349)
Hmm.

John Harcar (15:45.623)
Wow.

John Harcar (15:57.471)
Right.

Gabriel Palermo (15:59.88)
I put out the furniture, last week and I’m already have four bookings. My first guest is coming, is gonna get in tomorrow for seven days. So, yeah.

John Harcar (16:10.111)
Nice, nice. Have you been wanting to do Airbnb for a while or is this just something that you just kind of start dipping your toes into the water? Okay.

Gabriel Palermo (16:18.463)
I have a plan for Airbnb. It’s not the time to execute the full plan. But I say, know why we didn’t sell? It’s in a very nice location. Why not try? Let’s try. If that doesn’t work, what are we going to do?

John Harcar (16:29.356)
Yep.

John Harcar (16:37.089)
Yeah.

John Harcar (16:41.665)
Yeah, no, I get that 100%. So tell me what your team and your business looks like now. I mean, is it just you? I know you mentioned your wife does the lending part. Do you have other acquisitions, guys? What does your business look like?

Gabriel Palermo (16:54.439)
No, to be honest, that’s what I told you, I’m 24 seven. So basically I’m the one who do everything. I try to bring people on board, but this is very difficult. know, people, they are used to it to, to the paycheck. So this is a process. And if you don’t move, you don’t make money. It’s simple right here. If you don’t move, you don’t make money. So, you know, if you can now hold.

John Harcar (16:57.943)
Yep.

John Harcar (17:13.493)
Yeah. Yeah.

John Harcar (17:20.141)
Where have you tried to find employees? Or where have you tried to find people?

Gabriel Palermo (17:24.423)
No, well one of the what they’re one of the reasons why I’m not doing fix and flips anymore is because it’s very hard to find good contractors I was I was Putting myself on a really bad position because when you are not there hundred percent they hire you stuff and when the inspection come Who they gonna blame me? It’s my fault because I’m in charge so

John Harcar (17:31.429)
huh.

Yes.

John Harcar (17:49.482)
Hey, buck stops with you. Yeah, buck stops with you.

Gabriel Palermo (17:53.756)
I can’t hold that so I say, know what, I’m done with that. So now I have just a handyman, okay, for the repair on the rental properties. And I have, I already have a licensed contractor to basically it’s a builder for the new constructions. So other than that, my wife is, she though, we’d rather to keep it small, solid. If we receive,

John Harcar (17:59.776)
Mm-hmm.

John Harcar (18:09.165)
Okay.

John Harcar (18:12.909)
Scott.

Gabriel Palermo (18:21.585)
It’s very common on the brokers of hard money. They love to have accounting executive, 20 accounting executive receive application. But for me, it doesn’t make sense to receive 20 application and close only five deals. I’m right to receive. That’s what it is. So.

John Harcar (18:29.132)
Yeah.

John Harcar (18:40.607)
If it was the other way around, maybe 20 deals, five applications, you know? mean…

Gabriel Palermo (18:44.191)
I’m right to have received 10 application a month and maybe we we are right now We are closing but about eight deals a month. Okay, which is very nice for her But we are receiving but I’ll maybe between 10 and 11 application So all right of closing we are in the 80 % So always I try to keep my name clean Okay, so because in this business

John Harcar (18:54.189)
Okay. Okay.

John Harcar (19:05.505)
Got it. Nice.

Gabriel Palermo (19:14.269)
your reputation is very important. So that’s what I’m trying to do.

John Harcar (19:16.665)
huh.

John Harcar (19:19.981)
Have you not wanted to delegate hire and delegate? it just because you can’t find the right people or did you maybe do you have the processes in place to delegate some of this stuff to take off your neck so you’re not doing 24 seven?

Gabriel Palermo (19:32.768)
No, I’m a workaholic number one But it’s very hard for me to delegate because Basically, it’s like my and my personality I have to accept it. It’s my way of my way Yeah, it’s a I saw but But I find out you know, when you delegate

John Harcar (19:51.531)
Yeah, it’s all up here. Yeah. It’s all in there, I should say.

Gabriel Palermo (20:03.387)
I like what I do. And when I do something, I like to do it a hundred percent. I give my 200%. I don’t give 50%, 80%. I just come back from that property because I know I have a guest and I have to be there with the plumber because something just come out and I have to be there. So I think if you don’t do, if you don’t give you a hundred percent and you don’t do it by yourself, never this is gonna come out perfect. Okay.

John Harcar (20:08.172)
Mm-hmm.

John Harcar (20:19.895)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

John Harcar (20:32.683)
Yep, that’s true.

Gabriel Palermo (20:33.681)
In my case, right now, I’m still working and I know I have like another five years. But at the same time, if I want to cut it one day or one day, I just don’t want to wake up. I don’t do it. So. Exactly. So exactly. So my kids, they are coming on the weekend. So if I want to cut it for five days, I will be able to do it.

John Harcar (20:48.033)
Yeah, you got that financial freedom. You’ve reached that peak.

John Harcar (21:03.137)
Yeah, yeah, when you start your business, the business will run.

Gabriel Palermo (21:04.137)
So I don’t have that rush. Yeah, so it’s the way I have set up, but yeah, it’s very hard for me to answer the question. It’s very hard for me to trust on people to do the job the way I will do it.

John Harcar (21:21.229)
Well, that’s all of us. That’s that’s all the business owners man We want it done our way and I think that is one of the hardest parts to overcome is that mindset part or call it our ego That says no you yeah, you can’t there’s nobody possible that can do it as good as me. However What we found out?

Gabriel Palermo (21:33.375)
No, me? No.

John Harcar (21:43.761)
is there are people that can do it as good as you you got to be able to delegate because that’s just gonna help you and your growth right yeah yeah.

Gabriel Palermo (21:50.6)
No, no, completely understand. completely understand. Actually, it was very hard for me to delegate to my wife Believe it or not, was very hard. So…

John Harcar (21:57.55)
Well, that’s your wife, man. Come on. That’s a whole other dynamic right there. What’s some advice you can give some folks that are listening to this that maybe want to get into real estate, buying hold, fix and flip, whatever it might be. I mean, what’s just, you know, some good, good solid advice for them.

Gabriel Palermo (22:15.999)
I would say that the advice is do not think about it, just get in. The most common question is how I find the money. Okay, the money’s in the street. You have to know how ask, you have to prove how you gonna use the money, okay? And you have to show you can do it. Because if you don’t show,

What do you can do or what do you can deliver it or, know, if you don’t know about fix and flip, you can not go and ask for money because it’s very hard. Someone is going to lend you the money. Okay. But, but if you do that three things, you know, you’re going to be able to do it. We’re going to say, you don’t have the money. Okay. Get them partnership with someone. Something I do. Okay. I’m going to, I’m going to throw this here. I don’t put any money in this.

John Harcar (22:55.661)
Right.

Gabriel Palermo (23:15.487)
at all, the only deals I put money is on my rentals. And sometimes I don’t have it, I just borrowed the money, period. But maybe you have a good credit. Maybe you have the experience. So you can be the contractor, the other one have the credit and the other one have the money. leverage, okay.

John Harcar (23:18.878)
Mm-hmm.

Yep. Yep.

John Harcar (23:32.885)
Yep, find someone with your weakness. Yep, leverage, exactly. Yep, that’s what I could think of, leverage. Yeah, leverage someone else’s strengths to your weaknesses.

Gabriel Palermo (23:42.706)
I put, this point I have added my name sometimes it’s not on the HUD. It’s just, but it’s just because I trust on my partner, on my partners and they trust on me. For example, now one property, I wasn’t on the deal, I wasn’t on the HUD. And now we have to refinance, but because the the day credit doesn’t work, we have to refinance with my company. So everything switch around, you know, and, but.

John Harcar (23:57.773)
Mm-hmm.

John Harcar (24:07.499)
Yeah, it’s who not how.

Gabriel Palermo (24:10.971)
No, but I will say do not think too much just get in and get surrounded by people who know what they doing and Know everybody’s gonna be willing to show you the whole game But at least if I think if people they they come to you with honestly and they tell you you know I want to learn like I told my guy I said my friend I said listen, you’re gonna teach me I’m gonna pay my fee But sooner or later, I’m gonna fly out

John Harcar (24:24.877)
Mm-hmm.

John Harcar (24:40.545)
Yep. Well, go ahead and lead with value, right? Lead with value to somebody, provide something that they need. If you don’t have money, guess what you probably do have? Time. Provide it. Knowledge. Something.

Gabriel Palermo (24:41.385)
So…

Gabriel Palermo (24:45.885)
Yes.

Gabriel Palermo (24:51.167)
time, experience, credit, you always, exactly, you have to prove what you have so they can trust you and put you there. And then you start it, it’s not gonna be a nice, maybe it’s not gonna be a very smooth journey. It’s gonna be up and down. I can say very open. Some days we can have $200,000 in the account and the next day we are minus 10,000.

John Harcar (25:02.946)
Yep.

Gabriel Palermo (25:20.839)
Okay. That’s investor life. But, but you have to live with that. If you can’t, if you can’t know how the pressure someone say not so long ago, if you can’t know how the pressure, they’re not getting on business because every single business have a pressure. But my main thing is to tell people just jump and do it because the only way I don’t want to say the only way I don’t want to say that, but.

John Harcar (25:21.279)
out it’s called business yeah it’s called investor life it’s called business that’s what happens

John Harcar (25:36.162)
Yep.

Yep.

Gabriel Palermo (25:50.749)
This is the most safe way to get financial freedom.

John Harcar (25:56.942)
Yep, 100%. Man, Gabriel, we talked about a lot of good stuff today, and we could probably talk for another 30 minutes or so if we had the time. And I appreciate every bit of it. If our folks want to reach out to you, maybe just call you and ask you about anything. What’s the best way to get in touch with you?

Gabriel Palermo (26:04.083)
Yeah, I’m sure.

Gabriel Palermo (26:15.967)
My number is 786 387 1759. That’s my number That’s that’s for everybody. They can’t find me on Facebook as Gabriel Palermo And also they can’t find me an Instagram gave Gave that Palermo. Okay, and Also, I mentioned to you we have a group that called Flippy under USA

John Harcar (26:28.983)
Okay.

John Harcar (26:41.772)
Mm-hmm.

Oh yeah, let’s talk about that for a quick second.

Gabriel Palermo (26:46.587)
Okay, Flippiendo USA that become from an idea for we are four people, another two guys and a girl. One is in North Carolina, the other one is in Philly and the girl she’s in Cali. We say we come from the same place, almost at the same time. We take the course almost at the same time. And we say, listen, why we don’t get together and we start doing videos for YouTube.

So then we started from there, then we started doing life. Then we started getting people in the life. So people started asking questions, blah, blah, blah. So now we make the life on Wednesdays, okay, that’s for the Spanish community. We make the life on Wednesday. On Fridays we have a private group where we bring deals and we put people together. We don’t.

John Harcar (27:17.292)
John Harcar (27:30.189)
Okay.

John Harcar (27:43.468)
Nice.

Gabriel Palermo (27:44.343)
We don’t make any money there. just, we want people get in because there’s a lot of people who have a little knowledge. They got the money, but they unfortunately they cannot find the deal. So if we have someone on Georgia and we have a no one on Alabama and the one in Georgia got the money and they’ll find the deal. Okay guys, get together. Come on, get together.

John Harcar (27:56.855)
Yeah.

John Harcar (28:08.845)
Yeah, and there’s a website they go to for that.

Gabriel Palermo (28:12.255)
We don’t have a website yet them. I don’t know why but They can’t find an Instagram on Facebook Flippiando USA, but I always Flippiando USA and always they can send a message or they can contact me and and I’m more than they happy to free to share information because If we don’t pass what we learn is gonna die there so So I’m gonna retire

John Harcar (28:14.413)
Okay.

John Harcar (28:21.197)
Flippiendo USA.

John Harcar (28:27.469)
sweet.

John Harcar (28:37.409)
Yep, 100%.

Gabriel Palermo (28:41.823)
Five years, I’m done bro. Okay, I’m telling you now. So Somebody else have to do it. So we had to pass that So I’m only happy

John Harcar (28:44.749)
You’re dead.

John Harcar (28:51.308)
Yeah, awesome. cool. Well, guys, I mean, I hope you enjoyed the conversation like I did. Great nuggets, great information. Reach out to Gabriel and pick his brain, find out about how, you know, he could help you. Gabriel, thank you again, And I hope everybody enjoyed the show as much as I did, and we’ll see you on the next episode. Cheers.

Gabriel Palermo (29:08.862)
No, thank you.

I hope.

Peace.