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How to Choose the Right Real Estate Strategy Before Buying Your First Rental

By January 22, 2026Real Estate Pros Show

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In this episode of the Real Estate Pros podcast, host Micah Johnson interviews Wale Lawal, a successful real estate broker and investor based in Houston, Texas. Wale shares his journey from a corporate engineering job to becoming a real estate investor, emphasizing the importance of control and education in the industry. He discusses his evolving investment strategies, focusing on long-term holds and the significance of understanding client needs. Wale highlights the importance of providing quality advice and building long-term relationships with clients to ensure their success in real estate investing.

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    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (00:00)
    if they lose money on their first deal, they may never come back. Like, Hey, you will just lose it. Every, you know what? This is not for me. It sucks. Real estate is not what they said it is. It is good, but you have to go, you didn’t go do the right way. That’s why you kind of think it sucks. Now, like you say, it lost the mechanism that will have helping you the long term generation. Well, by just starting on the wrong foot.

    I wish more people would get quality advice out there. I also have to blame the real estate gurus as well for selling them ⁓ unrealistic outcomes or unrealistic dreams. People should be telling real estate is not easy.

    Micah Johnson (02:10)
    Hey everyone, welcome to the Real Estate Pros podcast. I’m your host, Micah Johnson. And today I’m joined by Wale Lawal, who’s been making serious moves in the single family residential space for about six years now. Wale, welcome in, man. How you doing?

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (02:23)
    Thank you. Thank you, Micah. Thank you for having me. Pleasure to be here.

    Micah Johnson (02:27)
    I’m excited for you to be here based on our pre-recording call. think our listeners are really going to take some value away from your story in general and then how you view making sure that you’re successful and others are successful too. So let’s dive in, man, for people who don’t know you yet. What’s your main focus right now and what markets do you operate in?

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (02:45)
    I am Wale Lawal. I am based in Houston, Texas. I’m a real estate broker and mostly a real estate investor. And my focus is working with rental property investors, people that are new, that are just getting started or they have some experience. That’s what I do. My focus is on single family homes and multi-family homes. So, and I’ve been doing this since, actively since 2020. So yeah, that’s a little bit about me.

    And I’ve been able to help about 400 people by the way, so.

    Micah Johnson (03:12)
    That’s awesome.

    man, love that. And that’s something I tend to see with people who are successful in real estate is that willingness to share. There’s a lot of abundance mindset in this industry from people who’ve actually taken the time to learn how to do it. Cause once you see it, you realize it’s not that you’re special getting it done. You’re just taking action on very particular things at very particular times. And that creates the results that you want. Let’s take a step back real quick. What were you doing before real estate and what led you to real estate to begin with?

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (03:36)
    Absolutely.

    Wow, that’s actually very funny. Okay, I am originally from Nigeria. So I came into this country as a student. went to college, I went to Prairie View A is in the Houston area. So I got my master’s degree in chemical engineering, and I worked in the oil and gas for about five years. So while I was working there, I was looking for parts to build welds, long time welds. I also looking for a part to retire because I know I don’t want to do my corporate engineering job forever.

    Plus, I’m an entrepreneur. I know I can never earn more than my boss. So I know that, I cannot earn more than my boss. Then what is the path? So I look at a couple of businesses. I did transportation. I failed. I did a little bit of Bitcoin. I lost money. I did a little bit of even stock trading. You know what? It just doesn’t make sense because they all lack one thing. I don’t have the full control. You know?

    Micah Johnson (04:12)
    Hahaha

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (05:18)
    And it doesn’t have some other advantages that real estate has. So I keep doing my research and everything was pointing me to real estate. So I took a deep dive. ran through Bigger Pocket and I consume all their content. I plug myself into the forum. I start asking questions. People start answering my question. And I felt comfortable to buy my first deal. So while I was going through my buying my first deal, I made up my mind that, this is a long time vehicle for me. I’m going to do this long time.

    I’m not going to go double into all these stocks, all these complicated or risky investment strategy anymore. estate is safe if you do it right, of course. So I like, hey, you know what? I want to be a savvy investor. I want to know what I’m doing. So I decided to like, hey, what is the best way for you to know what you’re doing? You’ll get your real estate license. And that was what I did. Plus everybody was pointing me in that direction anyway. So I got my real estate license in 2020 and I specialize in working with investors because I’m an investor myself.

    I’m not an hypocrite. practice what I preach. So if I’m telling you buy this because I’m going to buy it myself. so since then I bought my, yeah, I bought my, I bought my one, two, three property within that same year. So it was a lot of momentum I already built. So I kind of boom, boom, boom, implement them in that 2020. I bought three rental properties. Now fast forward to 2021. I saw that, Hey, I’m now making more money in my, you know, real estate sales business.

    Micah Johnson (06:19)
    You better put an operating quick.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (06:39)
    than my corporate engineering job, even though I have a master’s degree. So I was now losing my money also because I can’t, you know, you’re on the clock nine to five, I can’t do anything in real estate. So why? So I had to like resign honorably in July, 2021 to do real estate full time. And since then I’ve been crushing it. I’ve been able to help about 400, you know, new and experienced investors to start and scale their rental portfolio. And I continue to build my personal portfolio as well because

    As I got started, don’t forget the beginning. So currently I have about 30 rental units and I’m currently doing a five development. I’m building five duplexes in the Houston area, which I’m sure we’re going to get into. not to take much of your time. That’s my background and what I’m currently doing.

    Micah Johnson (07:25)
    No, that’s awesome, man. I love to hear people’s stories of just what led them to the industry because it’s so common to hear once you get in real estate, that control factor, that I can make way more of an effect on my own life on purpose than I can really anywhere else. And when you really love that industry and you get into it like you have, you find the success that you do. So let’s talk about, first, let’s talk about the deals that you look for. Take us through.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (07:45)
    Absolutely.

    Micah Johnson (07:50)
    What makes it a deal for you? What exactly is your strategy? Because you’re going long-term hold. That’s what you’re after building that generational wealth. What’s the most important thing in a property that you’re looking

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (08:01)
    Well, my strategy has changed over the years as you know, right? When you’re getting started, there’s so much you don’t know, right? So much you don’t know. I’ve made a of, I bought a couple of bad deal. I’m not going to be too shy to say that, or I’m not going to be too arrogant to think I know everything. I do not know everything. So getting started, my first two deal were not that great. So bought in a class D neighborhood, know, 410 and quality among other things. So what I look for these days, also because I’ve made a lot of progress. I’ve learned.

    Micah Johnson (08:28)
    Mm-mm.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (08:29)
    so much through my mistakes, through some trying errors, and through some mistakes of other people. So my strategy has evolved over time. As I have more experience, I’m tweaking my strategy. And that’s why people need to get started, because they can’t know everything at the beginning. I wish there was a magic pill. There’s just none. So ⁓ I used to buy three-bedroom, two-bathroom. Class C-ish is what I used to look for before. But now,

    I have shifted to more of class A and class B neighborhood because my time is now worth way more than chasing a crappy $150,000 rental property in a class D or class C neighborhood or dirty looking property that I know will suck a lot of my time. So right now, I mean, most people might not agree with this one because we all have difference, right? We all know what our time is worth, right? So for me, my time is worth way more than chasing a dirty looking property that need tons and tons of work.

    Now I do have the resources. have the contractor, you know, everybody to do it for me, but I still need to manage them. Right. Which I don’t want to. And again, people need to know themselves. You got to know thyself. The strategy is not for everybody. You know, if you know you are a busy person, you know, go turn around. So that’s what I’m doing right now. I look for new construction, but what I do is that I try to negotiate a deal on a new construction. This is how I do it.

    Micah Johnson (09:31)
    Yeah.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (09:48)
    a property listed by, for example, let’s say, D.R. Otten or Lena Holmes for $300,000. But I know them because I’m an investor agent. I work with Investor Auditor and I’m also a real estate broker. I know their secret. know their inventory, you know, and I know their, you know, fiscal year cycle when they want to move inventory. So I slide in when they are about to move a lot of inventory and the same property they’re trying to sell for $300,000. I can come in there.

    and buy for around $240,000 $50,000. Now I just got myself $50,000 equity on a brand new 2025, 2026 new construction, simply by knowing what to look for and positioning yourself to get it at the right time. So that’s what I do.

    Also my strategy now, I’m also doing development because I’ve seen this, I’ve seen a lot of duplexes. I help a lot of house hacker, people that are trying to house hack.

    for the first time, they want to buy their first property, but they also thinking as an investor, live on one side, rent on the other side. I make a lot of video on that on my YouTube channel. So I’m also doing the development because I see that, you are selling this duplexes every single time. What does it even cost to build it? What does it even take to build it? So I’m going through that process right now. I bought a three lots side by side lot and I’ve replanted them into five.

    And that’s how I’m getting my five duplexes I’m building. I’m building them in Sunnyside, Houston, Texas. If you guys want to go look it up, 77051. And it’s going to be five duplexes. All in cost for me will be around roughly, would say around, land is about $80,000 and the construction is about $350,000. So $350,000 plus $80,000 will be what? $430,000, $420,000, right? And I can easily sell this thing for around $580,000. So.

    Micah Johnson (11:43)
    Wow.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (12:09)
    So the plan is to sell them because I need to recycle my capital But once I kind of build one or two like that, I will now start holding some maybe, you know sell three build hold two something like that So that is my strategy right now long time buy and hold looking for chunky or new construction By buying the equity either through me building it or me buying what is already built by these big builders are looking to move their inventory and

    That is largely the strategy I preach to people, especially the busy professionals I work with, because I work with a lot of doctors, CPA, accountants, lawyers, software engineers, among other ones. So that’s it.

    Micah Johnson (12:46)
    about your experience is how you have that both sides. I was also, I got started as a realtor in the business and worked with investors and it’s one of the parts that educates you more than anything. Cause like you’re talking about the duplexes. When you know that, okay, right now specifically this particular property is doing this, then I can take advantage of that particular property. Cause you said it a second ago, strategies are not static. Doing the same one over and over. There’s a,

    you have to grow and also learn which one lines up with you because real estate is a huge term. There’s a lot of ways to get rich slow in it and knowing which one does it for you too, right? Cause it’s, you didn’t get out of a nine to five to go do something that you hate every day too. It’s, really about finding that emotional paycheck along with the financial paycheck. Cause that kind of alignment

    It makes you how you are right now, man. You’re smiling, you’re laughing. You literally, genuinely have a good time in what you’re doing. And part of it comes with knowing it adjusts. You’re always learning and following, okay, what’s that thing that’s working now that I can do to capitalize on what’s happening in the market?

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (13:55)
    Absolutely. That’s it. mean, real estate is huge. Like you said, people just need to know what strategy really align with them based on the time available, the money they have and the lifestyle they want to live. Not everybody should be a fixer and flipper. Not everybody should be a wholesaler. Not everybody should even be chasing off market deal. But when people are getting started, everything they are hearing is, hey, you got to go off market. You got to go off market. You got to go, you know, beat up that seller to sell their house on a penny on a dollar to you.

    It’s nothing and they forget the marketing dollars require to get off market dude. They don’t know that. If only they can look creatively on MLS, they might find a lot of deals without spending a dollar on any marketing. Why still getting protection from a rock star real estate broker like myself, because I tell people all the time, Hey, what you’re looking for is a deal. Does it matter if it’s off market or if he’s on the market?

    Does it matter? It doesn’t matter, right? You’re looking for a deal. What if I can get you the same property on MLS, even cheaper than what you’re going to be chasing around off market, especially you are new, you don’t even know what you’re looking for. Or you’re dealing with wholesalers that doesn’t have your interest at heart, right? And you don’t know what you’re looking for. Now you’re screwed. I, and I, and most of the time people will bring this kind of deal to me after they already make the mistake. And here I am now trying to help them clean up their mess. Like, man, I wish you reached out to me before you make this mess, you know, so.

    Micah Johnson (15:01)
    Mm-hmm.

    Yeah.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (15:56)
    Yeah, you’re right. Real estate is broad, not everybody should implement all strategy and not all strategy is meant for everybody. That’s why you need to start with who are you? What are you looking to achieve? What resources, time, money, knowledge, lifestyle you want, do you have available and chase a strategy that align with that. Again, people don’t know this.

    Micah Johnson (16:04)
    Thank

    Well, it shows into how

    you’ve helped 400 people, man. And we can dig more into that about, again, that heart that shows up once you know. And then once you start to realize, because again, there’s so many folks online that are sharing how they got their three deals. And now this is the way everybody should do it. And like they’re just building a different business, a coaching one, because the real estate one was too hard. And so they’re going to just start selling something else to you.

    it where it starts to hurt is those people that want to get into it. Cause if, you’re just upfront with someone and saying, what are you actually trying to do? Then once you know, then you can start talking about how to do it. Right. Like one of my coaches told me before, and this was my favorite quotes, like we don’t differentiate ourselves on what we do. There’s only so many what’s to do, but how you do it and why you do it. That’s where it’s completely unique to you. So

    Find that thing. What is it that you’re trying to do? What lines up with you? I love how you have the three resources. Dig back into those for me. So when you’re working with somebody, how do you crank them up? What are you making them identify upfront?

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (17:19)
    ⁓ first of all, I want to have a proper video meeting with them. we have it right now. Understand their goal. Why, why do you want to even invest in real estate? Why not go to stocks? Why not go and trade, you know, stocks? Why not Bitcoin? Why not crypto? Something like that. Right. So I want to make sure I understand their goal from them. will now dice. Okay. Based on your goal, based on what you have, let’s say you are, let’s say I’m talking to a client now is a medical doctor with three kids and the wife, you know,

    That guy should not be wholesaling, right? Yeah. I’m talking to a software engineer that works for Amazon or for for ⁓ Hapu. He shouldn’t be trying to be a flipper and he’s manager of several other people under him. He shouldn’t be a flipper. So this is how we get into all these things. eventually once I understand their goal.

    Micah Johnson (17:47)
    Right? No, no, not even close.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (18:13)
    I will now route them to the right strategy. Most of the time they go through the long time by an old or sometimes they do a little bit of medium time or short time rent out. that is what I, that’s the journey I take people to. Before we even do that, I have a YouTube channel where I educate people a lot. send them to my YouTube. I have a free real estate course I send them to as well. So by the time they are coming back to me after our initial consultation, they have.

    listen to every or watch every single strategy out there and they have made up their mind based on what they know about themselves because no matter how much I try to pull from them I can’t know them 100 % like they know themselves right so they will now make up their mind hey Wale based on the strategy you know you’ve laid out I’ve watched the video I fully get it this is the one I want to start with now it doesn’t mean they cannot mess with the other one in the future but at least

    They start with what they are comfortable with at first because I tell them the momentum is really important on your number one deal. When you do one deal, there is a way it just shifts everything for you. Like, wow, this is possible. I want to do this again. I want to this again. And that is how I say, oh, you caught the bug. I you just caught the real estate investing bug, which happens to me too. I bought one, man, I couldn’t stop. I keep going. So.

    Micah Johnson (19:18)
    Yeah.

    That’s it.

    And I love that man, cause that’s in the end, that’s actually taking care of people. That’s actually, you’re telling someone who they have a life, they have their family, they’re, they’re not looking to, not everyone’s trying to get out of their nine to five in real estate investing. A lot of them are, and not everybody should, you’re exactly right. Cause that’s, there’s a big difference in investing and running an investing company. ⁓

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (19:43)
    Absolutely, and not everybody should. Not everybody should.

    Micah Johnson (19:52)
    big one. And one of the things I find for the individual that wants to run an investment company, they want to run a company in general. Their goal is to be a CEO of something. They just happen to pick real estate as their commodity. That’s the thing that does it for them. So really getting into their mind and understanding what are you doing? Why are we doing this? And then we can talk about how you do it. So you’re actually successful because you’re right. You went through it yourself. Your first couple of deals, not great.

    You have the bug in the entrepreneurial spirit to push through where someone else that doesn’t have that. Let’s take your medical doctor that just went out there and tried to buy one. He’s done now. He’s eliminated real estate as an option. It didn’t work. now he’ll, yeah, literally left behind the mechanism that could change his family line forever. Forever.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (20:36)
    Unfortunately.

    Exactly.

    All because it’s time with the wrong strategy or maybe you got the wrong advice. And I say this all the time as well. If you,

    Micah Johnson (20:46)
    Roush.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (20:49)
    if they lose money on their first deal, they may never come back. Like, Hey, you will just lose it. Every, you know what? This is not for me. It sucks. Real estate is not what they said it is. It is good, but you have to go, you didn’t go do the right way. That’s why you kind of think it sucks. Now, like you say, it lost the mechanism that will have helping you the long term generation. Well, by just starting on the wrong foot.

    I wish more people would get quality advice out there. I also have to blame the real estate gurus as well for selling them ⁓ unrealistic outcomes or unrealistic dreams. People should be telling real estate is not easy.

    It’s hard. You just have to be passive. It could be passive. It can be passive if you get it to some point.

    Micah Johnson (21:29)
    It’s not passive either.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (21:36)
    And you’re willing to take less return because I also see this on match expectation. People want to do very little and they expect much. Like, man, no, where are you getting this from? but this YouTube video said I can do this. this coach said can do that. Okay, go to the coach. Good luck.

    Micah Johnson (21:52)
    Yeah, yeah, buy in, see if it works. And it’s one thing I like about our podcast that we do here is get finding people like yourself that are in the middle of it, right? So often in them there, it’s folks that are way too far out in front of you that you’re listening to. It’s really important to find folks that are around what you’re doing, that know how to relate to you in the space that you’re currently in. Because like you just said,

    Real estate does become passive at a point. It has a snowball effect, especially in long-term buy and hold. If you do it well, there does become a tipping point where you have a lot of time freedom. You can create a life where you’re still spending time working, doing deals, depending on how many you’re managing or whatever. it comes to your personality at that point, but you control way more of your life than you used to. And so many want to skip the steps to get to that point. And you just can’t.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (22:40)
    Absolutely.

    Unfortunately.

    Micah Johnson (22:45)
    And it’s like

    anything else. didn’t, your medical doctor, he didn’t go from high school to doing surgery, right? Like there was a, there was a 12 year path he had to go on from high school to then to get into that kind of position. And it’s people get in real estate thinking, okay, this is going to solve all my problems now. And usually you’re, you’re having, you’re going through those mindsets. I’m trying to solve retirement. I’m trying to do this. I’m trying to do that. And that creates this pressure. And you’re like, I got to make this go away now. And then you just make it a

    thousand times worse because the beginning of real estate is education like anything else. If you’re there was a I can’t remember who said this some I think some billionaire at this point but he was talking about how much in time you should invest educating yourself on something based on how long you plan on doing it right. He’s like if you’re going away for a one month trip spend one week at least studying where you want to go what you want to do so spend a quarter of the amount of time

    You’re planning on doing something, educating yourself on it first. Like learn, don’t skip that part because everything to do with your long-term success, everything to do.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (23:51)
    That’s it. And that’s the route I took. I know I will be doing real estate long-term. I have chosen, this is my own path to build long-term wealth, generational wealth. No more doubling into whatever I don’t know, I cannot control. So what did I do? Okay, go get your real estate license so that you can fully, fully understand what this RIVM real estate agent doing.

    Plus, I was frustrated by before I even got my license. Most agents don’t know about real estate investing. They don’t know how to help someone like me. They just want to open the door and show me the granite countertops or the backsplash or a three bedroom, two bathroom. I can see all that myself.

    I need to talk about the cash flow, cash on cash. What is the rent ratio in this neighborhood? Why would you buy this in this neighborhood yourself as my agent? But most of the agents don’t even own the rent app. They don’t even own an investment property. So I found that gap like, ⁓ this is an opportunity for you to go into. That’s number one. Number two, the one that now know it, they are super busy, too successful.

    to help a regular guy like me. So I saw that, okay, what if you now become that middle ground, which is what I’m doing right now. I’m now the middle ground between the new guy that want to get started, but they are very serious. They’re not dabbling around. They are not wasting people’s time. They really want to get started, but they just need the right guidance and somebody that can slow down to their level. And that is the ground I’m playing right now. Hey.

    You’re new, I can take you from zero to your first rental property if you’re ready to roll your sleeve and let’s get to work. And I’m responsive on the phone. I give them the attention they need. I help them vet the deal. More importantly, I tell them and I practice this every single day because I’ve lost money in real estate. I bought a couple of bad deals. I tell them, this is my business philosophy. If I cannot buy that property for myself, I will do everything.

    to prevent you from buying it, which means I’m shedding you away from mistakes. The only time you will make that mistake is if you don’t listen to me. And what I even do, I even took it to the next level. Sometimes people think it’s extremely, you’re a business guy. You should just make the commission and go. I said, no, no, no, no, it’s not about the commission right now. I like to build a long-term relationship with anybody I work with, If I help you screw up your first deal, you will never come back for number two.

    Micah Johnson (25:46)
    Yep.

    Right?

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (26:05)
    Right. So I now took the philosophy to the next level. Like, hey, if I now tell you don’t buy that deal, because I know you’re going to lose money, I know you’re going to sell it within the next six, seven months at a loss, and you’re going to cry, and you may never come back to real estate, and I don’t want to be the reason why you quit real estate. I would decline to represent you on that deal. That’s how hard I say, no, sorry, John, I can’t help you. I like you as a great guy. You know what you’re doing. You’re good. But you’re about to make that mistake on this deal.

    And I’m warning you as somebody that has done this multiple times, but it seems you’re not listening. And I don’t want to be part of a failure. I will not be able to represent you. Please go look for another agent. That’s it.

    Micah Johnson (26:44)
    Agents telling

    people no is one of the most powerful things you can do. And it’s what, in my opinion, establishes you as a true real estate professional in that industry. Whether you want to work with investors or not, having the ability to understand who’s the customer, what are they actually trying to do, and then getting them into situations where it accomplishes the goal, that’s your job. Like that’s the real job of a realtor. And like you said before, so many people just call them and so many can only be called because they got the keys.

    Right? You can unlock the lock box. That’s the only reason I need you here is that that’s your job. And you’ll be here at the end where like you’re saying a good investor or a good realtor, whatever specialty you’re in, you learn what they need. So you can tell them, Hey, that’s not a good one. Or this is a good one. Or cause if I’m doing it too, I can show you. And I love that. I love how you’re, taking your own experience and showing it out because that’s what, so it actually helps people, you know,

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (27:31)
    Exactly.

    Micah Johnson (27:37)
    Well, man, before we wrap this up, I really appreciated this conversation. If someone wants to find you, reach out to you, possibly work with you, how do they go about doing it?

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (27:46)
    Well, I love to share knowledge as much as I can ⁓ and I built online community of like-minded people. So I’ll give them three or four ways for them to find me. Number one is they can easily join my online school community, which is online. This is online community of like-minded investors like myself, like the doctors, like the software engineers. I’m talking about we are all on the same path trying to achieve one thing, financial freedom or generational wealth through real estate. That’s it. That’s the goal.

    And we are doing it together. We’re helping each other. So it’s free online community. I’m dropping a lot of information there. I even have a free real estate course that they can go through there. Super easy. That’s number one. would drop the link to the community in the show notes below.

    Number two is that they can definitely go to my YouTube channel. It’s youtube.com forward slash my first and last name Wale Lawal. Again, I drop massive, massive education, educational content on the channel. Number three, if they want to work with me one on one, like, hey Wale, help me cut all these mistakes. I don’t want to figure this thing to how the wrong way. Just take me under your wing. And I have a coaching program, which I sell at a very cheap, cheap price just because again, I don’t really care about, you know.

    the whatever I make from the coaching. care about you actually closing your first or next deal because I know once you do that one deal, it’s a snowball. know, the domino you get to just continue from there. So I said it as a very ridiculous, cheap amount. They can also find the link in the show notes below. Or if they’re ready to, Hey Wale, I’m ready to go. What’s the best way to contact you? They can easily call my cell phone and I can, you know, call that out if you want me to, or if you want me to drop it in the show note, we can do that.

    Micah Johnson (29:24)
    Absolutely. It’ll definitely be in the show notes for sure. Man, again, I really appreciate you being here. I love your story. I love your perspective on real estate, the way you’re approaching it for yourself and for others. I think we need more folks in the space doing that really being just honest and real about it. So others are actually successful. And for those of you tuning in, if you got value from today’s episode, please like this episode, share it with others, follow our podcast, subscribe to it. We’ve got more operators coming up in future conversations.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (29:24)
    and today.

    Sounds good.

    Micah Johnson (29:52)
    just like Wale, who are out there building real businesses and helping people actually accomplish their goals. So Wale again, thanks for being here and we’ll see everybody on the next episode.

    Wale Lawal – Realtor/Investor (30:01)
    Thank you so much, Micah. It’s really a pleasure being here. Thank you so much.

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