From Finance to Fortune: Jason Palliser’s Real Estate Journey Revealed

Dylan Silver (00:00.952)
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Real Estate Pros podcast brought to you by Investor Fuel, the nation’s premier real estate mastermind. I’m your host, Dylan Silver, and today we have Jason Palliser. And Jason is a real estate investor with a finance background, lead engagement and negotiation specialist. Jason, welcome to the show.

Jason Palliser (00:26.73)
Hey, happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

Dylan Silver (00:28.875)
Absolutely, man. First, I always ask at the top when I get into people’s background, how did you get introduced to real estate?

Jason Palliser (00:39.394)
So how I got introduced was to me a pretty logical flow. So I actually got a degree in finance from the University of Missouri and I started using it, which a lot of people don’t use their degree. So I started lending money and quickly realized that I get repeat customers if I work with investors. So my journey started with funding the deals for investors first. And I found that

I started learning almost every obscure program there was that people didn’t know about. And then some of the TV shows and the Rich Dad, Poor Dad, Kiyosaki started saying, hey, teach our people how to get funding. But here’s what I quickly realized is that these investors were coming to me from all over the United States. like, wow, I didn’t even know this existed. Thank you. High-fiving me, leaving the closing on something they didn’t think was going to get done. And they walk out making 50 grand.

cashing out 50 to 100 grand and I’m making three grand and they’re high-fiving me and I said wait a minute. So about two years in I’m like you know what I’m gonna start investing myself and I just dove in headfirst and fast forward now 26 years later speaking and teaching across the nation on lead gen and various aspects of real estate do lots of deals and hedge fund level clients I was just with one yesterday driving to the Ozarks.

I’m in St. Louis right now visiting family and set some stuff up for him. He did 9,000 homes in six years. So I set up to take over cities, lead flow wise, but it started with me, investment funding, and then going, wait, this isn’t equitable. I make three grand, you walk out with 50 and you thought you were dead in the water on financing. So I was like, you know what? Let me dip my toes into the investment sandbox. And once one toe was in, I never left.

Dylan Silver (02:19.01)
No.

Dylan Silver (02:29.71)
So from there, was your first deal a single family home?

Jason Palliser (02:34.722)
My first deal was actually a four-family. So was a four-family property.

Dylan Silver (02:37.998)
for him. Okay. Was this in that area, St. Louis area?

Jason Palliser (02:43.426)
Yeah, I’m originally from here. I live in Florida now, St. Pete specifically, but I float between properties. It’s kind of the way I built my life. I call St. Pete home, but St. Louis is where I did my first transaction. And it was actually one of the investors that I helped get financing for. I’m like, hey, I’m going to start doing this. And he’s like, I’ve got several projects going on. If you want to buy one off of me, he’s like, hey, I’m going to make some money on it, but let’s do it together. So he structured.

Dylan Silver (02:50.86)
Yeah.

Jason Palliser (03:11.426)
Again, I was a program specialist. knew crazy stuff like stated income on an investment property to 80%, 500 middle credit score, which means anybody can get approved and the 20 % down could be from the seller. So that’s what I did with him. didn’t do a stated income, but he sold me a four family and financed the 20 % down. So I got into the property with no money out of my own pocket.

Dylan Silver (03:23.115)
Mm-hmm.

Dylan Silver (03:40.493)
Mmm.

Jason Palliser (03:40.898)
Took two months, got it up and running, cash flowed it for five, six years and then doubled my money. I wish I would have kept it. so my first deal, I used my investment specialty creative funding skill set to get into that transaction. Really beyond just doing some paint and a couple of like I was four grand into it on a probably a hundred and twenty thousand dollar for family.

Dylan Silver (03:49.387)
Yeah.

Dylan Silver (04:08.025)
And after that, was it almost like a proof of concept and you dove head first in or was it like this is the first one and let me see how it goes.

Jason Palliser (04:18.914)
Well for anybody listening I’m a sicko so as soon as it literally as soon as I got the first First four units rented. I’m like, okay time to supersize. So I saw the value in Ken, can I be better than the marketplace? That buys a high equity absentee owner list of vacant lists and calls and are you interested in selling? Can I get to off-market? Owners that have some level of motivation

Sharper faster and and really engaged their brain the right way so what I did was I’m like I bought two or three of my first ones the way I just told you from another investor And I’m like wait a second if I get if I can get there first. I’m getting deeper discounts So then I went on a six-year Catch me if you can journey to just do it differently than everyone else like like to this day

People are like, hey, you know, I heard you on this or I saw your YouTube channel, all this stuff. And they’re like, can you give me one of your best lead flows? Cause I have 34, not two, not four, like most investors, but 34. They’re like, give me, give me the flavor of how you engage them differently. So if somebody asked me that I usually fall into the tax delinquent lead flow. I’m like most investors, and this is just for fun for everybody. Most investors.

In any city you choose, there’s probably 20 competitors that are smart enough to go after tax delinquents before they go to tax sale. So I’m not talking about tax sale stuff, but before I go, but everybody does the same thing as you know, Dylan, which is, before you lose your house a tax sale, let me put some cash in your pocket. when somebody, okay. Well then, then put your seatbelt on then. So Dylan, if that’s the case, when somebody asks me, they’re like, dude, I heard you do things that are insane.

Dylan Silver (05:59.266)
That’s what I’m doing now, so I know.

Jason Palliser (06:11.168)
like just beyond what my brain has ever digested. So I say that’s what most people do on tech. So like, I’m just giving you one example of a lead flow, right? So I say, while they do that, you should do something like this. That same list that they’re going, hey, before you lose it, can I put some cash in your pocket? I will go to the same city that you’re in folks and get that same list that you have. So there’s nothing magical there, but then do stuff like this.

Hey, I noticed you’re behind on your state property tax. At our tax care organization, we help pull funds together to pay those delinquent taxes for those who qualify for assistance. If you’d like to see if you’re eligible, call us at, visit us at, email us at, and reference tax assistance code TAC424001, program note. All funds are released directly to the county collector of revenue, and you’re entitled to a copy of receipt. Sincerely, Dillon Eligibility Department. So then I, so when people ask me, show me what you do for the hedge funds, why do you?

Why do the hedge funds get 50 homes a month and I’m trying to compete against them? And I say stuff like that. They’re like, oh, now I get it. Because one, they don’t view me as a real estate investor. If somebody’s missed a property tax payment, do you think they want to talk to a real estate investor or a tax care company? And everybody’s like, well, now that you laid it out, tax care. And so what we do is we teach people.

Dylan Silver (07:07.913)
Wow.

Dylan Silver (07:26.762)
Tax here.

Jason Palliser (07:35.114)
Now that your phone starts ringing, one, they wanna talk to you. Two, they called you. Three, you don’t have to skip trace. Four, I got their real phone number. Five, they’re ready to spill their guts to see if they qualify. So then I say, we got three separate ways we can help you. Give me two minutes, tell me the situation. And folks, if you’re listening, it is easy to close deal after deal after deal and help a homeowner when they spill their guts on the very first phone call. So I always tell people, how do you engage?

different lead flows the right way so where commands they want to speak to and they look at you differently than everyone else because quite frankly if you do what everybody else does they’re all they’re all doing and saying roughly the same thing so the seller of a property has already heard it 15 times and when I get hired average 50 homes a month I can’t afford to be like everyone else.

Dylan Silver (08:22.527)
When, selfishly, you can say, can’t give all the game away, but are any of these people able to stay in their home or you’re buying their home and they’re vacating?

Jason Palliser (08:35.778)
No, so we say hey we can help you three different ways We give them and again I’m not gonna give away the secret sauce But just to have everybody truly understand the gravity of what I’m saying here and that you can wake up tomorrow and start doing this vastly different We say hey one of the ways is if you can pay off your back taxes in a certain amount of time I’ll email you and let that serve as a voucher that I’ll reimburse you for a portion of your back taxes so now I just illustrated to them that

Dylan Silver (09:01.706)
Mm.

Jason Palliser (09:03.842)
Hey, I’m willing to potentially help them if they can perform and do something with nothing in return. They freak out. They literally go, you know what? 99.9 times out of 100, that’s not going to work based upon the parameters we give them. And then we flow into, I don’t want you to lose it at a tax sale with nothing to show for it because there’s a guy named Dylan that’s waiting for you to do nothing and buy it at a tax sale without ever wanting to speak to you. I’d rather find a way to work with you.

because of the approach and engaging the lead flow the right way, which is what I get paid to do by these big companies. We don’t view regular investors in any market they hire me to enter as competition. In fact, they do the work for me. Hey, I’m looking to buy one more house in the area. Would you like to sell? the homeowner, like seriously, you’re the 15th person. And then when we engage them, they’re like, hey, I could do this and I’ll help you give you a little bit better.

of your tax money back if you can pay it off in a certain amount of time with certain parameters, which I won’t give away because I’ve spent 10 years developing just that one lead flow out of 34. But every lead flow we attack is like the way we would approach a pre-foreclosure, which is a very good lead by law running out of time. We do it so unbelievably different than everyone else that the property owners want to work with us. So real estate investment isn’t hard.

Dylan Silver (10:12.392)
Yeah.

Jason Palliser (10:30.262)
when on the front end you engage them the right way. Period. End of story.

Dylan Silver (10:35.015)
Which talks about, you know, leads us into the something that we were talking about before the podcast started where, you know, quality of leads, people talk about, you know, pay per click leads and they’re getting pricier and, you know, there’s so many different ways you can go and places you can go to for pay per click leads and people are trying to dissect, which is the best pay per click lead provider. And sure, there’s, there’s lots of different options, but lead engagement is something that I haven’t.

Jason Palliser (10:58.497)
Yep.

Dylan Silver (11:03.037)
heard someone dive into as extensively as it seems you’ve gone into. So tell us about that in broad strokes.

Jason Palliser (11:12.128)
Okay, so again, started speaking for the TV shows and you know, on different areas of real estate, but lead flow was kind of the flagship thing. like, cause I tell everybody, I can teach you lease options. I can teach you owner financing subject to flips wholesale. But if you, but if you don’t have the skill to get there first and engage them the right way, then, then you have knowledge that that’s not applicable. And when I teach in that manner, people are like, Hmm, I get it.

So what I spent years doing and then a large company that needed a thousand homes in 72 months, they’re like, hey, we heard you have some lead flow stuff that will explode our front end opportunity. Can we hire you? And so what happened is this, so folks, if you’re listening and paying attention, I took what I was perfecting and then these bigger companies hired me and then allowed me to pour gasoline on the fire.

Meaning I was taking the lead flows even at that point. I was attacking it differently than most Regular investors in the market or what I call casual investor marketplace But then when they stepped in they gave me ungodly Budgets, so now now I splintered each lead flow 50 different ways. So What happened was is that I was doing?

How do I use the freedom of information after get water dissonance co-violations cease and desist order to vacate? And then how do I on each of those lead flows I just said, I’m going to test 50 different ways to engage them. And then what I do is I test things in 120 day increments, see which ones are the top four out of 50. Then I do it again for 120 days. Okay. So I do it again for 120 days with those four. And then I see which one wins. And then I’m just constantly methodically tweaking those.

So just like I rattled off the top of my head that the tax care letter that we do, and then we have three distinct things that we do. One of them even a lot, there’s actually five that we offer to them, but three main ones. But one of them, allow them to stay in the property. We say, hey, here’s what it looks like to stay in the property. So would you like to not pack one single box, but here’s what it would look like. And we lay that out for them and then they’ll choose, they choose stuff like, when you give people options, they choose.

Jason Palliser (13:35.202)
If you’re just trying to negotiate in circles on price, then I can show you somebody that should be closing five, seven contracts a month if they’ve been trained well enough that’s struggling to close one or two. so that’s kind of what it looks like.

Dylan Silver (13:47.704)
Yeah, you know, I resonate with that on a personal note. And I think everybody who’s listening is hearing you talk about the options. And if you’ve made these calls, if you have, you know, I’m in Texas, so if you’re familiar with the ROTI report, if you have a ROTI report, and you’re calling through and my call sounds just like the one that you said that everyone’s getting, you know, hey,

I saw you that your home is unfortunately going into foreclosure. Have you gotten this solved? Have you talked with anybody about this? And it’s it’s that’s what it is. And so even me personally, I’m looking at it I’m saying I want to know about those those other strategies. So

Jason Palliser (14:29.09)
Well Dylan, when you say that, you know what I do? Do you know what I teach people to do and the people that, the bigger companies that hire me and I train their entire office? I’m like, talk to people, talk to the homeowners about that back. Hey, I bet this guy Dylan called you and said, hey, know, blah, blah, blah. And they’re like, yep. I go, do you want to hear something different? And they’re like, yeah, hit me. And then we, then we do what we do. So I use what everybody else is doing against them.

Dylan Silver (14:55.14)
Yeah. And that’s that’s part of the I wouldn’t say frustration, but maybe people know and I know I’m like, there’s got to be a better way to do this. Well, on podcast day, we have the guy who’s got the better way and tested it split tested over 120 day increments made a livelihood out of it and taking it to another level. I wanted to have a little bit

into your career as a speaker? Because you’ve got these multiple paths. Was this something that you were doing at the same point in time, or was this something before or after the lead engagement started?

Jason Palliser (15:38.437)
So they hired me originally for funding expertise. And then if you really want me to get granular, one of the directors for the Rich Dad Education Kiyosaki brand came up and said, hey, one of the support staff said you closed 23 transactions last month. And I’m like, yep. And they’re like, can I ask you how much you spent to do that? I’m like, 2,400. And they’re like, it seems like it should be 10 times that. I go, not if you’ve tested it a lot. And then.

So that’s kind of how it took off from there. And then what happened was about another two or three years into speaking, doing it on my own, training and teaching people, a larger company just said, hey, look, we’re outpacing the casual investor marketplace, but we’re also spending 100 grand a month to do it. So we’re we’re basically cheating. We’re forcing our way into transactions by the amount of money we’re spending. We heard you can set up tons of lead flows that no one’s ever heard about.

and help us with that on the front end and probably reduce our cost. The particular entity that I’m talking about, I reduced their budget by 80 % and increased their output fourfold over a 24 month period. So they were, they were over the moon about that, right? But what I, what I got to do is sit back and collect the data. This one, this loses, this wins, this loses. Cause we, cause we do two day blueprint build outs.

And always joke, I could do a five day and show you three days of stuff that I thought would win that was a loser. I’m like, but why would I do that? I want to show you the stuff that we know incrementally across cities, big and small. And if you’re listening right now, well, Jason, my market’s unique. No, it’s not mean like New York, Chicago, Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta, Houston, Los Angeles, Topeka, Kansas, a small sample size. doesn’t matter. Bad things happen to good people at every market. Can you engage them the right way? So

Dylan Silver (17:03.962)
Right.

Jason Palliser (17:32.136)
as you and I talked before we started. If you do what everyone else does, there’s probably a level of frustration. If you’re doing things well beyond the casual marketplace, then real estate investment really isn’t hard. Like one other example just for fun is if you’re listening, why have you not spent one hour of your professional career? I know the answer, I think, but what if you took one hour of your professional career, blocked it out, Googled,

Local junk removal companies and then called to set up a co-op with them now when I say co-op I know you’re what? Well, we developed it. Hey, we talk to the junk removal company this way? Nope failure. Do we talk to him this way? So we say hey Can I set up a co-op with you because that almost every time gets them to go what do you mean? So we say hey look you win some bids you lose some bids Every time you give a bit. I’d like to do a co-op with you

When you give a bid, I work closely with a gentleman named Jason from Allied Property. If you’re going to sell it, I can put you in touch with him. He’ll give you an offer in 24 hours if you’re going to sell it. And every time you do that and I buy the house, I give you two grand. So every bid you give to make money, there’s also an opportunity to make two grand and work closely with each other. And if I buy it, but you didn’t win the bid, I’ll put him writing that you get the junk removal services and I also pay you two grand.

Dylan Silver (18:56.623)
On a personal note, I’m listening to this with my ears peeled open, so to speak, because I have a saying, I call it fanatical networking, or I have heard Mike Hambright, who owns our Investor Fuel real estate mastermind, who’s the sponsor of this podcast say, networking junkie.

I didn’t know that I was doing that when I was getting out of automotive where I spent the better part of five years in automotive before I transitioned into real estate. But really I was like, how do I get in? How do I, how do I start? And for folks who are feeling like that, I always tell them you have to be networking like crazy. Like whatever you think is a lot of networking, you need to crank that up exponentially. If you’re doing something once a month, let’s, let’s

do 10 times that, try to go to two meetups a week and you’ll find the people and you’ve applied that to lead sources and engagement so you can think about just the tentacles. I’m thinking about it because I have applied it to one area of my life which is meeting people, how I’m sitting here. But you’ve applied it to not just that because you need that to be in the real estate space, but you’ve applied it to your…

Jason Palliser (19:49.73)
Correct.

Jason Palliser (20:01.558)
Correction.

Jason Palliser (20:05.504)
Yeah.

Dylan Silver (20:14.212)
Clients and the the the sources of leads. It’s just like

Jason Palliser (20:18.902)
Yeah, well think about this Dylan I just verbalize something everybody and I’m sure that as you listen you’re like man I’ve never heard of that before Because gurus don’t teach it and I don’t say gurus like in a bad way They just do one thing get this list cold call, you know, they play the consistency model, which is fine in favor of it, right but I’m willing to bet what you just heard a minute or two ago that you and I are discussing

If I add two pieces to it, a little bit of a seasoning to it that good luck going to sleep tonight because I bet when I said create a co-op with the junk removal companies, one, you didn’t think to do that. But two, did you ever think that now the only time you get a lead, the only time you get a lead with the new relationship is when somebody wants an offer. You know what that eliminates? CRMs. You know what that eliminates? Follow up. They’re like, hey, I was told to call you. I’m selling my property.

Yeah, I can make you an offer. Give me some details. That’s the only time I get a lead and then doubling down. When do you folks want a lead? I’m willing to bet. It’s at the same time somebody gets a bid to remove junk because people don’t do that for fun. So it’s different lead flows that no one ever talks about. And by the way, you know, I’ll triple down on that. How much does that cost me marketing budget wise? Zero point zero dollars.

And I track all this stuff. Remember I said I track in increments. Each relationship that you get foster and start working is easily 30 to 40. Hey, this person wants an offer from you a year. So it’s 30 to 40 leads where somebody wants to sell right now, make an offer, negotiate, get a deal. And, people like to make real set investment hard. It’s just no one slows down to teach you. can do this without a big budget. You can do this deliberately. And these leads are coming to me with no, I don’t, I don’t have competition.

I don’t have any competition on these. And so we systematically go through 34 of those and be like, your competition has one or two lead flows in any city you choose. You have 34. How do you think the math is going to shake out for them? I’ll tell you, not good. Your competition, sorry.

Dylan Silver (22:17.108)
Yeah.

Dylan Silver (22:31.202)
The folks that are listening, you the common theme that I see with folks who’ve been in this for a full cycle, 25 years or about that, is that they’re agile. you know, Jason has taken this to another level because we’re not just talking about agility. We’re just, we’re talking about almost being like agnostic to how you’re coming about it because a lot of people would say, you know, we’re not doing that. No, no, no, no, no. This isn’t our business model.

But if you do that, then what happens when your time runs out? What happens when you can no longer do that thing? What happens when the market or statutes change and now that’s, or everyone’s doing it? There’s a new TikTok, YouTube, it’s flooded. Everyone’s a wholesaler. Well, how many people are calling the junk removal company and offering to be a co-op and then getting the seller calling them up? It’s like, this is like, like,

Jason Palliser (23:16.374)
Yep.

Dylan Silver (23:25.546)
Like I’m Neo in the matrix, like I’m just dodging bullets here. And I imagine that’s how you feel, you know, when it comes to your lead funnel and your lead sources, it’s like, I’m not just gonna ride or die this one thing and I’m not gonna do that.

Jason Palliser (23:40.45)
Well, I know which ones are where you said you said something that I hope people paid attention to earlier and I didn’t jump on it I should have is that you said hey, there’s all these different lead types and but I track them all so I know what I know which ones Every hundred and twenty days which one ranks number one across 300 cities which one ranks number two anything That’s a top ten you should be doing and so we know which ones are one two four twelve thirteen six nine eleven and so

I don’t there’s no guesswork on my end and the fun part for me and I hope it’s coming I know this won’t be popular if you hear this because you’ve listened to all the same YouTube channels podcasts like we’re doing right now, but heaven forbid folks heaven forbid when text messaging goes away Because you’re gonna get fined or cold calling has tighter They put tighter rules on it. Well, if they’re calling me because of the way we engage the lead flow

I don’t have any problems. If that goes away, I close more deals because everyone else will be, you’re done. And I’m not saying it in a bad way. When I started doing what I do for these larger companies for individuals nine years ago, because I stepped away from the TV show stuff, waited for my non-competes to, and I said, hey folks, who wants to see what we do for hedge funds? It was fun for me. showing individuals what we do for larger companies, that was probably the most

Dylan Silver (24:44.64)
is gone.

Jason Palliser (25:08.748)
fun defining moment of my career is that now I get to show people how it’s done and I get text messages all the time like, hey, truck removal for the victory or you said paper click. Well, one of the lead flows we do is show you how to show rank on Google for free instead of doing paper click stuff for sell my house fast and what, hey, somebody in Arizona, Phoenix, sell my house. I need to sell my house now, sell my house fast. I show people how to rank for that and I get text messages.

Hey, Google for the victory, free of charge. It took years to figure out those things, all the way down to doing direct mail for free. Took me long, I can put you in 20,000 mailboxes, for free.

What do you think this home is

Dylan Silver (25:54.977)
know how much people are spending on direct mail, which is why I’m laughing, you know, $80,000 a month, you hear that I’ve heard that number multiple times. And I’m thinking, man, that’s a lot. These are not large, they’re medium sized, smaller companies, I know the people it’s not, they’re putting, you know, almost 100 grand into mail marketing a month for a county.

Jason Palliser (26:13.89)
But give your audience perspective, because those numbers scare people. Now they’re listening and going, OK, now I’m scared. No, you don’t need to be. Two truths that you just said, two truths. The biggest player that you want to start closing some deals in whatever city, there’s a big player in every city. But the biggest players in those cities, common denominator, they all do a lot of direct mail. You know why? Because they privately know it works. They also privately know that you as an individual investor,

won’t buck up to five, 10 grand a month to squeeze out a deal or two. If they’re spending 80 grand, they’re closing 15 deals. And if those 15 deals net them 15 grand a piece, it’s 150 grand. Would you spend 80 to do one? Of course you would. But no one’s going to work their way up to that as a casual investor. Well, I figured out how to be in 20,000, 30,000 mailboxes for free every month. You know what that means? You can actually compete overnight against the biggest player in town.

Dylan Silver (27:01.088)
Right.

Jason Palliser (27:11.669)
and there ain’t.

S H I T they can do about it. And so again, I do this stuff out of necessity. Some of the things that we test and come up with, because I was beating my head against the wall in my K, we’re averaging they need 42 homes a month. We’re consistently stuck at 30 to 34. I’m like, what else are we not doing? And, and like I said, I could do a five day training on three days of it, showing people stuff that we thought would work. didn’t, but

Dylan Silver (27:16.554)
He

Jason Palliser (27:43.842)
There are some winners out there that cost you zero dollars in marketing budget that you could be doing in closing one to two contracts a month. It’s sitting down to learn a different way to do this. when text messages and phone calling gets tighter or goes away, the floodgates are open. I can’t wait. can’t.

Dylan Silver (28:00.021)
Yeah.

Dylan Silver (28:03.518)
I’m going to tell you what so I’m going to God willing be a real estate agent in April sitting for my test 31st and one of the things is if you’re a realtor, you know with with the new restrictions, you know you anything can be a complaint if you’re in Texas anything can be a track complaint it feels like so you know there’s so much that you can’t do and among one of those things is just you know text and everybody so even if you’re trying to be safe you know

Jason Palliser (28:20.566)
Yep, yep.

Dylan Silver (28:32.32)
you may want to look at, what are some non conventional ways that I could do these deals creatively, you know, and where do I go? Well, you go to Jason. Speaking of which, we’re coming up on time here, Jason, where can people go to get ahold of you?

Jason Palliser (28:52.786)
Well, you can find me on Facebook. We have a YouTube channel called no flipping excuses Or the best easiest way is just a schedule call on my personal calendar You can go to the number two WWW dot the number two day blueprint dot-com because one of the big companies I just called an off-market attack and I always get made fun of because I get excited I’m like we’re gonna suffocate a city 34 ways without a budget blah blah blah, but one of the big companies are like geez

In two days, you walked us through your operations map. In two days, it was a blueprint. So it’s just the number two day blueprint dot com. Pick a time that works for you and you could schedule a call with me or just shoot me a text message. 3 1 4 7 4 9 37 37 and say, Hey, I’m interested in destroying my city and we can talk like it’s fun.

Dylan Silver (29:47.018)
You know, there’s so much I could dive into here. We didn’t even get it able to talk about negotiation, which was a topic that we had had said before the podcast, they would really get into here a little bit we hit it. the lead engagement for me as a wholesaler is is so a I’m grateful that there’s people like you out there that are doing it because I didn’t know, you know, all I knew is what I knew. And it’s the same thing that you said that everybody is doing. And even in my heart, I’m

there’s got to be a better way. So folks, if you’re if you’re a wholesaler, if you’re doing fix and flips and finding your leads the same way that everybody else is and you’re looking for, hey, how can I, you know, be the doge of my own assets? How can I reduce my expenses but still get even more or higher quality leads? Hit up Jason. And you know what? I got stuff to learn from this, too, because I have lots of lots of questions. My my ears are peeled wide open, but

That wraps up another episode of the Real Estate Pros podcast by Investor Fuel. And until next time, thanks for coming on.