Building a Legacy: Insights from John Cavalieri on Construction Success

Dylan Silver (00:01.042)
Hey folks, welcome back to another episode of the Real Estate Pros podcast brought to you by Investor Fuel, the nation’s premier real estate mastermind. I’m your host, Dylan Silver, and today on the show we have John Cavalieri. John is the founder of Cavalieri Construction and brings over 25 years of hands-on experience in the construction industry. John, welcome to the show.

John Cavalieri (00:24.098)
Thanks man, appreciate the invite.

Dylan Silver (00:26.142)
Absolutely, absolutely. We’re thrilled to have you here. We’re actually from the same part of the country, which is rare on this show since we’re based in Texas. Sometimes we get people who are from this part of the country, but you’re in New Jersey and I’m a New Jersey native. So it’s good to have someone from the same area of the country on the show.

John Cavalieri (00:33.614)
Thank

John Cavalieri (00:42.444)
Hey man. That’s right man. Yup absolutely. We’re from South Jersey so.

Dylan Silver (00:48.401)
Yeah, yeah. I tell folks New Jersey can seem big when you live there because you’ve got, you know, the top. I was in Essex County, but then you’ve got Cape May down at the bottom and it seems like the two are almost two different cultures. But then you come to Texas and, you know, you can go from the top of Texas to the bottom of Texas. And that’s like driving from Maine to, you know, South Jersey.

John Cavalieri (01:05.262)
You

John Cavalieri (01:12.172)
I was going to say Texas. Texas is huge, right? mean, they said it’s one of the biggest states in the country.

Dylan Silver (01:18.374)
It’s got to be. mean, I’m sure Alaska’s got to speak, but they’re probably the only ones. from the top, what I like to talk about with folks is really how they got into the business. And I know before we hopped on here, you mentioned really it was it’s in your blood. So talk to us about that.

John Cavalieri (01:34.03)
Yeah, my family’s been in the construction industry or trades for, I mean, probably almost a hundred years in Philadelphia now. Union, non-union, but it just evolved over the years. Flooring industry, general construction, had family members that owned businesses, some were superintendents of big, companies. I think one of my uncles had built the veteran stadium in Philadelphia years ago. One of my great uncles, yeah.

Dylan Silver (01:59.216)
Wow.

Any idea as far as origin story, how the family got into the business?

John Cavalieri (02:06.562)
don’t necessarily, I know that my grandfather was a carpenter. One of my grandfathers was a carpenter. know that over in Italy, our family were stone masons. So that I’m sure that transferred over to here, in that particular, you know, in the construction industry, just not, not stone mason by itself. I ended up becoming, the VP of a mason restoration firm years ago. So I did into that industry.

Dylan Silver (02:29.533)
Mason restoration when that comes to mind I’m thinking forgive me for the basic understanding of like a cathedral and like literally restoring a cathedral. What is a Mason restoration?

John Cavalieri (02:42.094)
So any type of brick repointing, brick cleaning, terracotta, limestone restoration, just repointing or replacing mortar joints, any of those type of facades like in Philadelphia, New York, major cities, like you said, churches or cathedrals, any of that type of restoration.

Dylan Silver (03:00.273)
Yeah.

Dylan Silver (03:04.785)
What do they call that art deco? A lot of that I feel like is involved there. Are you familiar with that term?

John Cavalieri (03:11.53)
Yeah, I’m with that term. mean, there’s all different types of cathedrals. You have the Gothic and Art Deco and yeah, absolutely.

Dylan Silver (03:19.292)
You know being in the family business a lot of folks will talk about wanting to pass down a legacy to their children and their children’s children you you’re talking about a hundred years going from Philadelphia New Jersey you know the East Coast. Did you always know that you wanted to be a part of the family business or was it like an aha moment how did you decide I’m going to I’m going to carry the torch.

John Cavalieri (03:41.164)
Well, I mean, my business personally isn’t a passed down business, just so we’re on the same page. I created this business over the years. But I’ve been in the construction industry personally for 25 years. became a union carpenter back right out of high school. And I just knew that I wanted to follow in the family’s footsteps in that aspect. Yeah.

Dylan Silver (03:46.971)
Okay.

Dylan Silver (04:02.032)
I see. Okay. So you didn’t inherit the business, but you inherited kind of the craftsmanship and the trade and the idea that I want to work on properties. I want to work in the real estate space on the construction side.

John Cavalieri (04:16.768)
Exactly. Well, you know, the funny thing is that my family was primarily in the flooring industry for the longest time. And I knew I didn’t want to crawl around on my hands and knees laying floors because I did that when I was at a young age. And then I got involved with the Carpenters Union to become a carpenter. I wanted to swing a hammer and learn every aspect of the building industry.

Dylan Silver (04:23.931)
Mmm.

Dylan Silver (04:38.918)
So from the time where you mentioned out of high school, from the time where you were out of high school until when you founded Cavalier Construction, how long was that time period and what was the growth process like?

John Cavalieri (04:51.054)
So I’ll tell you, so I became a carpenter, graduated from the apprenticeship, and eventually ended up leaving the Carpenters Union to become a project manager for a masonry restoration firm in the Philadelphia area. And then I had, my career had taken off from there where I became a project manager and then grew a masonry restoration firm in Philly from, you know, nothing to $15 million in revenue in a recession.

So that had, you know, that put me into that industry for many years after that as well, before I even started my own business.

Dylan Silver (05:28.796)
So going from Mason restoration to then starting your own business, did you have in the back of your mind were you always thinking I’m going to have my own business? This is something that I wanna be in control of my time scale or was it divine intervention? How did you get to where you are today?

John Cavalieri (05:48.406)
No, I always had an entrepreneurial, you know, spirit mindset. I, it always had a hard time working for, companies. Definitely wanted to knew that I wanted to have a company of my own down the road, but I just felt like I needed to learn through other companies and other things in order to own my own business. wanted to learn about the business, you know, how the mechanics worked, how the, backend of the business worked, how the front end, know, getting it done estimates and project management.

Dylan Silver (06:18.693)
Before we hopped on here, John, I had mentioned, you know, in the real estate space, people will often, you know, broad strokes talk about the career path, if you will, of a real estate investor. You could go ahead and get a real estate license, but what I’ve been seeing more and more of is folks who are on the outside looking in, maybe, you know, they might be a teacher, they could work for the government. In my case, I was working for a car dealership. I was a salesperson at Nissan.

John Cavalieri (06:46.851)
Yeah.

Dylan Silver (06:47.007)
for a couple years and I knew that I wanted to be in the real estate space. wasn’t in my blood. I literally knew nobody like the only people that I knew in the real estate space were like realtors who I just kind of roughly knew as acquaintances, but no cousins, no, no family, nothing. And so I was buying books. I was YouTube in because we have YouTube, you know, I was going to our local Ria. And this this is a crazy story. But one of these Ria events and

John Cavalieri (07:07.267)
Yep.

Dylan Silver (07:15.864)
They said, hey, vanilla ice is going to be at our next RIA event in Addison. I was living in San Antonio at the time, so I drove all the way up from San. I want to say I paid like seventeen hundred dollars to go to that. I paid which was like the money that I had at the time. I drove up from San Antonio to Addison. Crazy story. Vanilla ice was at a baseball game. I want to say it was a Chicago Cubs game where someone was brandishing a weapon.

John Cavalieri (07:24.62)
Yeah.

John Cavalieri (07:41.518)
Yeah.

Dylan Silver (07:43.844)
This wasn’t that long ago. This is like two years ago. And so he didn’t know if he was going to be able to make it, but he ended up showing up. And I learned all about how he was buying properties under the appraised value. And so kind of bells were going off in my head. I can do this. I can do this. And I saw the life path of an investor. You go from either having money, which is what vanilla is had. So he could he could go buy these properties with cash or

John Cavalieri (08:00.844)
Yeah.

Dylan Silver (08:12.898)
you become a wholesaler, which is what I was doing from being a wholesaler. You eventually get to a point where you can fix and flip or be a minority partner in those deals. Then you can do some buy and hold action. So that might be Airbnb short term rental or a long term rental. And then from there, especially right now, because of rates and the current market conditions, folks will go and and they’ll be note buyers. They’ll be hard money lenders. They’ll really take themselves out of

working in and on the homes and just lend money. So I’m curious from your perspective, what’s kind of the similar career path for someone in the construction space if there is one?

John Cavalieri (08:53.402)
well, as far as like, mean, you might elaborate a little bit about that.

Dylan Silver (08:59.309)
Sure, yeah, no, mean, so let’s just say I’m not in the construction space, which is true, you know, and maybe I’m thinking about being an apprentice, but one day I’d like to, you know, own my own successful contracting company and I don’t know where to start. Or maybe one day I wanna be, you know, I have a franchise HVAC company with locations all throughout the state and I have no idea how to start. I don’t know about, you know, business and so on and so forth.

Is it as simple as you know, I become an apprentice and see see who I can shadow or is there like knowledge and skill that I have to seek out outside of that that that’s not going to be handed to me.

John Cavalieri (09:37.514)
I’m saying, yeah, so, I mean, there are, I believe there’s no one…

size fits all, but I believe that if you really want to learn the business that you would eventually want to own, definitely should. It’s similar to like a franchise where, know, Domino’s, you’re going to be the, you know, the driver, the cook, the person at the register, you’re going to learn everything. So in a construction business, I feel like you’re going to want to know how to estimate, how to do the work, how to manage it, how the backend stuff goes. Now you might not get that opportunity right out the gate, but if you work your way up the ladder, you get out in the field, you learn the field.

you get into the office and that’s essentially what I did is I knew the field, I knew how to build things and then I got in the office as a project manager because I knew how to read drawings and blueprints. So there are classes that you could take. You don’t have to go into the union as an apprentice. You could always go to a community college and learn how to read a set of drawings. I think that’s very key is knowing how to read a set of prints, read a set of specifications, know the local ordinances and codes so you could do that on your own time.

Now every township and every city has different ordinances and permit requirements, but the majority of the building code is the same. And then you could work on stuff around your house and just learn how to swing a hammer and use a drill and buy the right tools and stay away from the generic tools and buy the good stuff.

Dylan Silver (11:00.313)
Speaking about blueprints and knowing the ordinances, this is actually really specific. We’re getting detailed drilling down into what people can do to, I don’t wanna say scale, but to get to the next level. Was it obvious to you that you needed to seek out that knowledge or did you come to a point where you were like, what do I have to do? I have to learn blueprints.

John Cavalieri (11:20.814)
you

No, it was kind of a natural thing. mean, in order for me to build the things, I needed to know how to read the drawings. And I knew that I was never going to excel in my career if I wasn’t able to read a set of prints.

Dylan Silver (11:34.521)
I see, I see. And so I’m imagining at this point in time, you’re working in the masonry restoration space, and you’re ripping the cover off the ball. Are you seeing other people who are going out and they’re starting their own businesses? And you’re saying, hey, I can do that? Or is it like, no one else is doing it and you’re realizing, I can do this, let me go out and do my own thing.

John Cavalieri (11:57.774)
It was still, still had, so besides the mainstream restoration field, I had gotten out of that field and gotten into another different industry of construction, a facility maintenance industry on a national level. So I was still molding my craft at the time and learning different parts of the business before I had made the a hundred percent switch to, to Cavalier Construction.

Dylan Silver (12:20.545)
So roughly speaking roughly what age did you start Cavalier construction.

John Cavalieri (12:25.582)
Um, it was back in 20, in 2013 when I had actually formed Cavalierie Group and that morphed into Cavalierie Construction just recently.

Dylan Silver (12:31.447)
Okay.

Dylan Silver (12:34.872)
Okay, okay, so if you can, talk to us about those inception days. What it was like, what were your projects like? How were you finding clients? Go ahead, go ahead.

John Cavalieri (12:49.55)
So I had actually, I actually started out in the commercial industry prior to the residential space with Cavalier Group. Cavalier Group consisted of like national facility maintenance or regional facility maintenance, I’m going to say, as well as masonry restoration. And I was in that commercial space for several years until I decided to move out of that space because of a couple of different factors, one being payment terms.

Dylan Silver (13:19.755)
And folks, you know, who are listening, me in particular, but I’m sure a lot of our listeners, people are wax poetic about commercial. I’m actually, God willing, going to be a realtor here in mid-April. I’m sitting for my license March 31st. But at the school that I went to, Champion School in Fort Worth, Texas, people are talking about how do I get into the commercial space? And it just seems like that’s the destination point. before we hopped on here, you explained, you know, actually, depending on what size you’re at,

John Cavalieri (13:34.062)
Awesome. Great.

Dylan Silver (13:49.687)
There’s potentially more money to be made with less risk in the residential space. And you talk about how with Cavalier construction, you’re actually seizing on an opportunity because, you know, there’s a lot of people just working out of a truck.

John Cavalieri (14:03.502)
Yeah, 100%. mean, we took, so from my commercial experience, I had taken the professionalism and brought that into the residential space. Because I noticed that there’s just a regular guy with a pickup truck and he slaps a name on the side of it and he calls himself the contractor. When we meet with our customers, we throw a whole…

professional proposal, pictures, full-blown proposal to these people so that they understand what exactly they’re getting, not just a one-page estimate or a quote that has a number on it and a couple lines to it. These people have a full gist of what they’re paying for.

Dylan Silver (14:42.359)
Speaking about superior processes and presentation, for folks in the real estate space who are trying to get out of the business, they’re in the business, they’re working on their flips, or they have their rentals and they’re trying to get out, the thing that’s constantly harped on is having people and processes in place. So you’ve grown a company and capitalized on this relative void.

of folks who are working out of the truck and not bring that professionalism from the commercial space to residential. How did you grow your team? What were the growing pains if any? And what’s your general philosophy about growing teams?

John Cavalieri (15:21.208)
So I feel like what we’ve done is we’ve taken people that we’ve taken individuals or I want to say partners or subcontractors that didn’t have a lot of the business experience and molded them to our culture.

basically have mentored, I’ve mentored a lot of different people to like, hey, this is how we do it this is how we would like you to do it when you’re in front of our customers. So they didn’t bring their bad habits. They didn’t really have a lot of habits. They just knew how to get the work done. A painter or a plumber or an electrician, he knew how to do the work, but we just helped him with the professionalism.

Dylan Silver (16:01.142)
And for folks listening, scaling a business, especially with COVID and with everything that was going on, definitely New Jersey was not the easiest place. I can only imagine that there was some difficult times to navigate. I mentioned before we hopped on here that earlier this week, I spoke with the gentleman who only invests in the industrial space. That’s all he does. talking about how

They actually were able to capitalize on that because of PPP loans and they had increased interest in industrial warehouse space for that which they didn’t have before so everyone else is thinking you know commercial real estate can’t can’t be doing well well industrial in this case in New Jersey the guy was from Jersey as well was was doing well and so navigating COVID navigating the years.

How have you managed to weather storms and to see your way through some clouds?

John Cavalieri (17:01.986)
You have to adapt and overcome. mean, when it came down to COVID and all that other stuff, people were looking for office space in their house. So we were renovating office space in their house. You know, now with the current, some of the current lack of real estate, people are wanting to add additions onto their house. So you had to be very versatile in your business and just go with the times, you know, where…

Like I said, with the offices, we were able to do that. And then with additions, just adding real estate instead of people wanting to move. I mean, that was just the way it was.

Dylan Silver (17:32.168)
And it’s it’s true. You know, going going from commercial to residential, bringing bring your expertise from that area about the systems and processes and presentation, right. And then also being able to pivot to, hey, there’s all this need for offices. Was there specific marketing or was there specific lead funnels that you were generating through this time? Or was it all, you know, word of mouth and

your business speaking for itself here your past jobs speaking for itself.

John Cavalieri (18:01.518)
Definitely. It’s definitely a mix between repeat and referral business as well as utilizing your Google presence or your, you know, your online presence. But then also what I’ve noticed is.

Yeah, that’s all great to use Google presence and ads and all that, all those, all those fun things. But I feel like people do business people they like. So meeting people in person and getting referrals, like going to join a BNI group and being in front of 20, 30 other individuals and networking events where you’re handing out your business card and you’re shaking their hand and they’re seeing who you are. People aren’t able to do that.

know, Googling somebody and I never relied on that ever in my life. It was always old school business with new school technology.

Dylan Silver (18:45.886)
completely agree, John. And, you know, for me, it wasn’t until I realized that people have to be fanatically networking, especially if you you you’re completely new to the space, like I was, you can’t just kind of lackadaisically read a book, watch a YouTube video, and think that you’re going to be handed, in my case, a wholesale deal, it’s just not going to happen, you’re not just going to scroll through Facebook marketplace, and find wholesale deals like it’s

John Cavalieri (18:52.087)
Yeah.

Dylan Silver (19:12.205)
I have a mentor. It was an old boss, Frankie, if he ever is listening.

John Cavalieri (19:18.176)
I have an old mentor named Frank, he actually passed away, that’s funny. That is wild, man.

Dylan Silver (19:24.843)
Yeah, that’s how it works. But Frankie, Frankie would say, look, man, it’s a contact sport. It’s a contact sport. If you want to find distressed properties, you’re not going to do this just through, you know, picking up the phone as much as you would like to. Sure, you could buy leads, you know, those are going to cost you $250 per and then you have to convert them. But, you know, the best way to do it is you see a house that’s distressed, go up and knock on the door.

You know, see what kind of business you can drum up for yourself. And I have to say the first six months of me being in the real estate space, I wasn’t doing enough. And then to fast forward to now, you know, I’m going to networking events twice per week. I’m hosting five of these a day. And I’m realizing that I still don’t feel like I’m doing enough. I’m like, I see other people where, you know, they’re the inverse. They’re literally charging for their time, like tens of thousands of dollars for a day.

And I’m like, that’s unbelievable. Like the people come to them. So now I’m flipping it on its head and going, OK, before I thought I could go to, you know, one real meeting a month and, you know, say that was good enough. Now I’m like, I need to be living rent free in people’s heads. I need to see, you know, when they scrolled through their social feed, they’ll see two posts by Dylan Silver and that, you know, my past book of business that they’re saying, hey, if you need, you know, to move a property quickly that they’re going to reach out to me.

John Cavalieri (20:49.004)
Yeah, no, absolutely, man. mean, listen, granted, do use current technologies like we use AI technology within the back end. We’re able to tie in.

That’s another thing that we do is we’re able to tie in our existing systems like our accounting software with our estimating software and our website where we automate a lot of stuff and we make it very easy to work with where we’re not doing things. That’s another thing that I teach my people that are with me like my my partners is that we help them with all their back end.

you know information and help automate it so that they could have one time to actually be on the job and working not have to worry about invoicing and all these other fun things and they could also have time in their own life and enjoy enjoy a life with besides just working.

Dylan Silver (21:35.079)
John, I know no one has a crystal ball here, but I like to ask my guests with AI, which you mentioned, you I think a lot of our listeners probably aren’t aware of how much this has infiltrated all business. you think, you know, maybe, you know, interacting with people, you see it a lot. Like I used to work in the automotive space. So dealerships are using AI to text customers, but you just mentioned AI on your back end in a construction business. How are you using it now? And then also where do you maybe see it going to?

John Cavalieri (21:46.946)
Yeah.

John Cavalieri (21:56.013)
Yep.

John Cavalieri (21:59.779)
Yep.

Dylan Silver (22:04.516)
in the next couple of years in your business specifically.

John Cavalieri (22:07.118)
So, I mean, it’s funny, we really have introduced it in our, where we tie in.

from our website leads, which ties into our invoicing system, it ties into our proposals, everything. I mean, we even use it for blueprints to get a budgetary number out to a customer. If somebody gives me a set of blueprints, I could put it into a program where it spits out a budgetary proposal with a good number. And I’ll back it up. I’ll look at the number and see how it is per square foot. But we’ve utilized that technology extremely. we’re actually creating, believe it or not, we’re creating a

business that will help small business contractors with their backend with all their automation that’s in the works right now.

Dylan Silver (22:49.99)
Wow, that’s awesome. As far as creating a business, I speak with a lot of people who talk about like strategic relationships. There was a guy just on the podcast before this who talked about he went from Wall Street to then using his ability to raise capital for investments in the finance space to then someone approached him about, you can do that in the finance space. Why don’t you help raise money for

real estate investing and we can take down deals together. So the one guy was involved in fixing and flipping and then he got the guy who knew how to raise capital and they were effectively matched after that and they’re taking deals down all across the country at scale, effectively a hedge fund if you will, for that type of thing. And so do you have any similar

feedback on the importance of these strategic relationships and having someone in your back pocket who you might be able to use down the line.

John Cavalieri (23:54.69)
Yeah, so we form many strategic partnerships. For instance, like on our design build team, we have architects, engineers, we bring everybody together. And that also is impressive to a customer when you could say, hey, listen, I have an architect, I have an engineer, I have a surveyor. We have all that. And then…

You know, we also have strategic partnerships with realtors and mortgage companies. I just did a presentation at a mortgage company where in front of 50 or 60 realtors, giving them some insight and some construction knowledge. And now I have relationships with 50 or 60 more realtors as well as the mortgage company. And they’re going to utilize me for the two or three loans as well. So, you know, those are, I feel like if you’re educating out there and you get in front of group of people and you’re able to add value to a person’s

Dylan Silver (24:32.837)
Yeah.

John Cavalieri (24:42.544)
You know their knowledge to them then they’re going to utilize you they’re going to call you and I probably handed out probably 30 business cards yesterday just for that particular event

Dylan Silver (24:51.473)
You know, the funny thing that I’ve noticed about being in real estate is I thought when I was in automotive that no one would want to give me the game, so to speak, because kind of like when you’re working in the automotive space, I sold cars for five years at the tail end. I was working for Nissan. They have this saying like, be dumb. Like you don’t have to know what you don’t need to know, you know? And so you don’t need to know about.

how this is financed. You don’t need to know about the approval process. You need to know the bare minimum to get the deal through the box and to take care of your customer. And that’s good enough. And so in the real estate space, I truly feel like I have a thirst for knowledge that’s enabled me to get into this chair where I’m at right now. And that’s the only way that I’m here. And I’m surprised that whenever I typically go and ask someone for advice that they that they give me the answer. I’ll be at a meetup and folks will be talking and

John Cavalieri (25:33.025)
Mm-hmm.

Dylan Silver (25:45.144)
I’m like, I should be paying this person for all the game that they’re giving me. Have you found anything similar in the construction space or are people maybe a little bit more like, tight lipped with giving others advice?

John Cavalieri (25:54.412)
No, believe it or not, some of these networking events and some of these things that I’ve gone to in the past have been people that have recommended me sharing their insight or sharing their connections like this, you know, one person in particular, they had said, hey, listen, you should go to this networking event. You should meet these people. Hey, I’ll put you in front of this mortgage company. You could do a presentation like they are offering their help because you know what? Down the road that

I might not have business for them now, but down the road when somebody’s talking to me and they need their services, whether it’s title services or whatnot, I’m going to refer them right away because I know that they thought of me and they were a giver and they weren’t necessarily saying I need to receive something right now, but down the road, I’m going to think of them. They’re planting seeds and it’s all about planting those long term seeds. never know what you’re going to because I helped out another contractor the other day where they were trying to sell to me. I’m like, listen, you need to do this, that, the other. And I was just helping them. I’m like, look, you

might become a competitor down the road, but I’m just trying to give you a hand, you know, and trying to help you give you some guidance.

Dylan Silver (26:51.493)
Yeah.

100 % you know the way I ended up sitting in this chair that I’m in now is a crazy story. It’s almost like if I told someone this it just sounds unbelievable the amount of stars that had to align. I didn’t know what I was doing in wholesale. We this is in San Antonio Texas and I was working for a company God bless them but they ended up really kind of dissolving or not operating any longer going under and.

We had this contract in Azle, Texas, which is west of Dallas, west of DFW. And I’m on Investor Lift, which for those who aren’t familiar, it’s this online tool where you can go to find real estate investors who are operating in a specific area. And so I found a guy in the DFW area who was buying these types of properties and I texted him the information on the property and I said, hey,

What do you think about this? And he texted me back, know, you really don’t know what you’re doing. Your photos are terrible. And you know, I’m not interested more or less. But at the time, I was, you know, really gung ho and fully in on I’m going to learn how to wholesale. So I just badgered him and badgered him and badgered him and we ended up becoming friends somehow, which I don’t recommend that to everybody. But I was utterly relentless about him buying one of my deals.

He never bought one of my deals, but what he suggested to me was move from San Antonio to Dallas or to DFW, which I did. And then he found out that I was in DFW and was kind of shocked that I took that advice. And he’s like, you know, we should do we should start doing some deals together. So since then, we’ve done four assignments of contract. He actually bought one of the deals that we had in Weatherford. And I’m filming this out of the office on one of his ranches. And so it’s like

John Cavalieri (28:42.498)
Nice.

Dylan Silver (28:44.036)
Literally a cold call for a property that he was not interested in is is how I’m where I’m at and by the way The the owner of this podcast Mike Hambride who owns investor fuel Posted somewhere. Hey, I’m looking for some someone to host a podcast my mentor Ryan saw that and said hey, you know Dylan might be a good fit for this and so it’s like You can’t you you can’t make this stuff up. It’s literally about

John Cavalieri (29:07.246)
That’s cool, man.

Dylan Silver (29:11.843)
you know fanatically networking and putting yourself into that position and in your case you know like you you could have easily said I’m this is my family business you know I’m just gonna follow in their footsteps I’m not gonna do anything radically different but instead you took it to another level.

John Cavalieri (29:25.036)
Yep, absolutely 100 % man. I just want to be able to leave a legacy for my kids as well. That’s the main goal is I want to be able to say, all right kids, here’s a company I built and we already have some of our kids that want to take over and learn the trade. Actually, we have one of our sons who wants to become a realtor at 18 and become a carpenter right out the gate. So he’s getting ready.

Dylan Silver (29:49.517)
That’s awesome, man. And we talked a little bit before hopping on here just about, you know, handing down a business. And I think a lot of folks are in a position where either they have a business and their kids aren’t interested or they have a business and maybe the kids show some interest, but it’s nonetheless a responsibility to take over a business, you know? And so to have someone who’s excited and ready to go out of the gate, you know, be a realtor,

John Cavalieri (29:56.557)
Yep.

John Cavalieri (30:03.597)
Yep.

Dylan Silver (30:19.362)
carpenter, you know, that’s awesome. And I think it’s a testament to what you’ve been able to do to show, you know, the next generation, hey, this is out there for you. Can you take it to the next level? You know, there’s 100 years of Cavalieres. Can you make it to the next 100? And we can, you know, put our mark on New Jersey and Philadelphia.

John Cavalieri (30:38.114)
Yeah, man, that’s awesome, man. We’re definitely excited for that.

Dylan Silver (30:41.806)
100 % well we’re coming up on time here John how can folks get a hold of you?

John Cavalieri (30:44.27)
Our website is www.cavaliericustombuilds.com and my email address is john at Cavaliericustombuilds.com

Dylan Silver (30:56.482)
Well, folks, that wraps up another episode of the Real Estate Pros podcast brought to you by Investor Fuel, the nation’s premier real estate mastermind. I’m your host, Dylan Silver. And until next time, thanks for watching.

John Cavalieri (31:08.462)
Thank you.