Discover the Future of Home Ownership with Realtor Robert Dinan

Dylan Silver (00:01)
Hey folks, welcome back to the show. I’m your host Dylan Silver and today on the show I have Robert Dinan, your West Coast Florida realtor. Robert, welcome to the show.

Robert Dinan (00:12)
Hey, I thank you so much, Dylan. It’s a pleasure to be with you today and thank you for having me, my friend. Thank you for having me.

Dylan Silver (00:19)
Absolutely, I’m jealous that you’re, I’m actually jealous that you’re in Florida. How long have you been in Florida?

Robert Dinan (00:26)
So I bought in Florida in 2000 and moved full-time from New York to Florida in 08. So I have some time in here in the Sunshine State for sure.

Dylan Silver (00:38)
I’m from, we didn’t even get into this, I’m from New Jersey. I’m from Caldwell, New Jersey near Montclair Hoboken. So we kind of have this, really?

Robert Dinan (00:44)
⁓ know it very well, my friend. it very well.

I do. I have one of my partners is actually in Hoboken that was involved in our multifamily fund. So he’s in Hoboken now still. He’s packing up, getting ready to move down to the Sunshine State too. ⁓ But yeah, was out on the North Shore of Long Island in a town called Lloyd Harbor, Cold Spring Harbor, Huntington area. So the North Shore of Long Island was a wonderful place to grow up. ⁓

Dylan Silver (01:01)
Ugh, stop.

Robert Dinan (01:13)
You know, worked in the city, lived in city, worked all over, you know, that area in the past and just happy to be down here in Florida, my friend. I can’t wait to see you here, my friend. You got to come on over. Come on over.

Dylan Silver (01:26)
You may see

you may see me here this month or next month. don’t I really have to get down there. But pivoting to how did you break into the real estate space? Was it in your blood? Did you have a lot of people that were in the real estate space? How did you get into the real estate space?

Robert Dinan (01:39)
All right, well, without seeming too hokey and planned here, this is actually what happened to me. I loved Monopoly. I really, I loved the game of Monopoly. Monopoly to me was just an awesome game. And it taught me a lot of things as a young guy on getting rents, mortgaging properties, buying properties, getting the best properties, park place in Bard Walker, and then hammering people with…

with the big rents, but I really had a passion for real estate for a young age. And I think that grew out of ⁓ playing that game, but also my mother and father weren’t real estate professionals, but they were always looking at opportunities for real estate in different parts of the US.

Upstate New York in this, in the Windham area. I don’t know if you’re familiar with that space, but it was like a ski mountain area space up there. And you know, they were always had a, my dad had a wonderful fascination with, with Florida. So that’s, that’s how I ended up in Florida, but my real estate, real real estate journey really happened to me when I was still in high school. So in high school, there was a group of guys in high school that were, you know, a few years older that were, you know, friendly with everybody.

You know, all of a sudden, you know, they would still come to the parties and come to the things and do the stuff at the sporting events. And because they were in town, they stayed in town. They didn’t go away to college. They stayed in town. They got jobs with the town working for the town. But all of a sudden, you know, I saw these guys, you know, driving nice cars, having nice things. And, you know, I’m like, what are you guys doing? You know, like you selling drugs? What’s going on? What are you doing? You know, and my my buddy said to me, he said, listen,

Dylan Silver (03:28)
What is going on?

Robert Dinan (03:33)
He goes, we’re buying properties at Town Hall, on the steps of Town Hall. And we got these orange sheets and green sheets that we know they’re Liz Pendant properties. And we’re buying things right on the Town Hall steps, for pennies on the dollar. ⁓ And this is them in the late 80s doing this. So I got involved with them when I was a senior in high school.

By time I ⁓ was 26, we had ⁓ 16 rental properties that we had personally through the three of us. And we grew that and grew that into more. And then over time, people move, people do things, people get divorced, things happen. So we kind of moved away, but I stayed in the game, in the real estate game for a very long time. And ⁓ really was…

mostly on the real estate space in the more of the acquisition side, right? I wasn’t retail. I wasn’t doing retail sales in real estate. I was doing it for us to be able to acquire the properties and to manage the deal and the process through the deal. Because, you know, when you’re doing it yourself, you know what’s happening. You don’t have, you know, a third party. So that’s where I was. And that’s really how I got involved in the real estate space.

Dylan Silver (04:58)
Let’s talk about buying homes on the courthouse steps, okay?

Robert Dinan (05:02)
Oh, come

on, dude. It’s the thing of the past, my friends. It’s, uh, it doesn’t go down that way anymore. It was literally like an auction. Yeah. They would say, you know, 60,000, 65,000, 70,000, 80,000. And then you’d have to have, you know, um, you know, 10 % down at the time. Um, and then within two days, the, the, the full amount and, and you know, Dylan.

I’m gonna age and date myself here. But these are a time when you had personal relationships with bankers too, right? mean, when I bought my first house solo, I mean, I had a bank account since I was a young guy, because I was always working on boats and doing pools and doing certain things to make money. I was always entrepreneurial minded. I had a bank account since my dad took me to the bank at 16. So we’re opening a bank account. Put your money in the bank.

you know, and you know, I built relationships with the people in the bank. So when I wanted to buy my first house at 20 years old by myself, you know, I walked into the bank and I said to this guy, Rick, and I still remember, I could still see his face. I don’t know where he is today, but I worked it. I walked into the first national bank of Long Island and I said to Rick, I want to buy a 11 Hillcrest street in Huntington here. goes, that house by the bakery. Sure. Rob, sit down. Let’s get it done for you. You know? So, I mean,

It was that easy and that simple because they knew you had a relationship and it wasn’t all this, know, proctoral exam that a mortgage is today, you know? ⁓ please, please, you’re first born, you know, everything else.

Dylan Silver (06:36)
Yeah, so you need a blood test and you know…

It’s

really interesting, know, unrelated to this, I get a lot of different avatars of real estate investor on this show. And one of the things that I’ve noticed is a ⁓ trend toward not just affordable housing, but alternative dwellings, like this term ADU, I’ve seen pop up a lot.

Robert Dinan (07:00)
Yeah, the ADUs

are very popular these days. Yeah. Yeah.

Dylan Silver (07:03)
I

believe a lot of it is because of the hurdles that people in many cases have to jump through, post Dodd-Frank, post the recession. In order to get a mortgage, many people feel like you need quite literally a blood test in order to get a mortgage. ⁓

Robert Dinan (07:21)
And

it’s a move towards too, you know, I mean, with the ADUs, it’s really a move towards multi-generational living too, because, you know, I mean, the American dream of buying a home is getting further and further out of the shot of, you know, the younger demographic. You know, it’s the money that you need now to put down on a property compared to what you needed 10 years ago is beyond.

Dylan Silver (07:43)
Yeah.

Robert Dinan (07:51)
you know, even five years ago. you know, that’s a that’s a whole other whole other podcast still podcast.

Dylan Silver (07:58)
I was just, I

want to touch on that a little bit. was just having that conversation with my family. We were disagreeing basically and I was saying the value of a college education has been devalued slightly because college education kinda used to be somewhat of a, not a guarantee, but a pathway towards home ownership. And now that’s less and less clear because you have to jump through so many hurdles and the argument on the opposing side.

was well, know, ownership has nothing to do with education. And my perspective was like, well then why are we getting an education? you know.

Robert Dinan (08:32)
Understood,

understood. know, I mean, again, that’s a whole other podcast. I mean, you could we could drill down on that for hours. You know, I mean, is it worth it? You know, I, ⁓ I tell people now, you know, I got I have, you know, I have a younger boy, he’s four now. But, ⁓ you know, I started a little bit later in life. But, you know, I have friends now that kids are, you know, graduating college and moving into the the quote unquote, real world. And, you know, it’s like, what do they do?

You know, what do they do? You know, is a college education the right way to go? You know, I mean, I’ll tell you right now in Florida, if you’re a tradesman, you’re running, you know, an air conditioning electric company, ⁓ you know, like the, you know, the heating and cooling HVAC systems like that, you know, ⁓ I mean, you’re, just crushing, you’re crushing. mean, the, the, the times of, you know, this blue collar mentality of, you know, you have to be, you know,

Dylan Silver (09:22)
you are.

Robert Dinan (09:31)
a super duper suit wearing professional to make money is not the case anymore. It’s just not, you know?

Dylan Silver (09:37)
I’m on

the same page with you on that one. I’m curious when…

Robert Dinan (09:40)
Yeah. mean, go to trade

school, guys. Go to trade school. Get a trade. I mean, you don’t have to use it. But you know what? Get it. Own it. And build a company around it. I mean, hire the guys to work for you. mean, there’s a lot of people out there that just want to go to work and want to do what they like to do. I want to just run the wires, man. I just want to hook up the wires. And I want to go home. That’s all I want to do. I don’t want to run a business.

If you have that background in that trade, in any of those trades right now, even automotive, you’re setting yourself up for success because people aren’t doing it. There’s a lack of people doing that. I think, it’s maybe first, second, maybe third generations were going into it. I can tell from my experience with my

my network, but a lot of people aren’t going into it. And as you get into second and third generation of even business ownership, what happens? You see a downturn. You always see a downturn when you have mom and and pop leave and Joe and Mike come in to run the shop now. And there’s always, seems.

not always, I shouldn’t say always, but most times you do see a decline in business and you see a decline in quality of work and or the hospitality side of things too.

Dylan Silver (11:11)
Yeah, and to your point, private equity is coming in and they’re seeing this as an opportunity because this is an area which is ripe for innovation, right? And so if you scale a business or if you have, if you’re looking to sell your business, there’s so many private equity groups that are gonna come and would love to make an offer on HVAC, electrical, any type of trade.

Robert Dinan (11:21)
yeah.

⁓ please. Yeah.

mean, even the, I mean, there’s there’s a, there’s a, there’s a couple of big ones down here in Florida, not to mention any names, but you know, ⁓ one HVAC company has, you know, ⁓ a baseball stadium, you know, for the, the minor leagues, you know, named after them and, they’re just picking off the mom and pop shops, you know, and, and, and getting those customers and building their book, right? I mean, it’s, it’s the, it’s the same way when we talk about, you know, the real estate space and, and how the,

Dylan Silver (11:53)
Yeah, I mean, that’s…

Robert Dinan (12:02)
You know how the builders now are holding back properties, right? The builders have built communities now and they’re not even selling the communities. They’re not even selling these communities. They’re just doing full rentals on full communities, you know, just renting out a whole community and brand new builds and move in today and you know, we’ll give you deals and what are they going to do? They’re going to hold, right? They’re going to hold those properties.

Dylan Silver (12:13)
Landlord.

Yeah.

Robert Dinan (12:27)
until the market ticks back up where they’re gonna be making that three, 400 % that they wanna make these builders. And all they’re gonna have to do is what? Clean it up a little bit, maybe throw a coat of paint on it because the roof is good for years. The HVAC should be good for years if it’s maintained. The appliances should last for X amount of years. mean, there’s lifetimes on everything now. Things don’t last, mom’s fridge doesn’t last for 45 years anymore. But there’s…

There’s just a huge movement in that space too with the builders to just rent out full communities because again, to your point earlier, the lack of affordable living and if these builders take a little bit of a haircut on the rent, at least they’re getting something and they’re getting people into the space too because at the end of the day, they’re not naive individuals. They’re going to try to flip these people into the home.

And a lot of the build, what a lot of builders have, right? A lot of builders have title company, financing, everything built into their own system. So it’s like, we’re a one-stop shop. You don’t want to rent it? Great. You know, three years from now, we’ll give you the option to buy. You know? So it’s a whole new market change too, to go back to your private equity stuff, because private equity is stepping in and, you know, I say this with caution, but… ⁓

They’re trying to make America a place of renters, renting. Yeah. And ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dylan Silver (13:57)
Yep. That is 100 % what’s going on. And I see it. You know, and

to your point, the subdivision, I was speaking to a builder who does subdivisions two weeks ago, and he was saying that he’s looking to start being the owner of these as opposed to just building and then selling them. And so this is not

the first time that I’ve heard this and it’s really a huge shift because you’re thinking well every time you see you know here in Texas I see you see DR Horton I’m forgetting the names of the other big ones on top of my head

Robert Dinan (14:32)
Yeah, you got Pulte, D.R.

Horton, you have plenty of other big ones out there. You got the Ruttenbergs, there’s a multitude of the national builders that are… And each one says they’re the number one builder in America too, right? the ⁓ Taylor Morrissons of the world, right? I mean, that’s another big one too. You’re gonna see, I think we’re seeing a big shift. ⁓

Dylan Silver (14:38)
Yeah. And so.

Yeah, they’re popping up everywhere.

Robert Dinan (15:02)
you know, again, back to our earlier discussion on what home ownership looks like in the next five, 10 years in the US.

Dylan Silver (15:08)
looks like.

Yeah.

It’s going to be very interesting. It’s definitely ripe for innovation. I want to ask you, ⁓ when you move down to Florida, 08, 09, right? What an interesting time to move anywhere, but definitely Florida. I’ve seen the movies and I’ve heard the stories. Florida was kind of in many ways the hotbed of you want to loan, you have a pulse, here’s a loan. And so what was it like? wait. ⁓

Robert Dinan (15:25)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That’s what caused, that’s

what caused 2007, eight, right? Um, well, well, so I, um, you know, owning property in Florida at that time, you know, again, I, I bought in Florida in, in, in 2000. And when I bought in 2000, you know, 98, 99, you know, being in New York city, I mean, there were business owners, there were restaurant guys, they were hotel guys.

Dylan Silver (15:40)
Yeah, what was it like?

Robert Dinan (16:02)
that were like, I’m selling everything and I’m going to Florida, I’m buying because now’s the time to buy. And there was this like, you know, again, this is 25 years ago, but this is like, there was a time where I was like, shit man, excuse my language, you know, but Florida is going to sell out. You know, like I got to get a piece of Florida, you know, I got to get a piece of Florida. And that was like, you know, everything that was going on, you know, for lack of a better term on the street, right? I mean, that’s what was happening. And I was seeing.

successful entrepreneurs, successful business owners, successful just hoteliers just dumping everything and pumping into the Florida marketplace. I remember one guy was like, take whatever you want out of here, bro. Take the chairs, take this, take the plants. I’m out of here. I mean, it was wild. then when I purchased again, it was a higher marketplace. And it was…

comparably to 2007, eight, but it was a higher marketplace. Florida has a little bit more of a cyclical move than most markets. It really spikes high and then drops down to where it should be. But when you buy high, you always want it to go higher. So, I never ran into anybody who said, I’m sorry, I bought my property 20, 25, 10, 15 years ago, right?

Worst investment I ever made. You tend not to hear that. I think it’s just that 08 stuff when it was happening, the reason I came down was I had a gentleman who was lending money in the private equity space, for lack of a better term, as a wholesaler yourself, to the fix and flip guys. ⁓

You know, he said to me, hey, you still have that place in Florida on the West Coast. I said, I sure do. And it was, was January in New York and, ⁓ you know, January, New York’s not a pleasant time. So he said, well, you go down there and give me some, you know, broker price opinions on properties down there, because I’m going to be lending out money to these places. And I, I need to see if there’s home, if there’s actually a home on the property, if there’s a, he’s, he’s based out in New York too.

I need to see if there’s a home on the property. need to see if there’s AC units. I need to know there’s no holes in the roof. So I came down during that time and stayed until March and was doing like 10 to 15 houses a day doing broker price opinions on properties and living the dream. Living the dream. was getting paid a significant amount of money to do these broker price opinions. And I told the guy, said, you’re paying me $500 a house, my friend. I said,

You know, that’s crazy. I go, you know, you’re my buddy. don’t, it’s like, I feel like I’m taking advantage of you. said, don’t worry. It’s built into the loan, my friend. So you’re good. So, you know, doing that many houses a day. And, and, you know, at that time, ⁓ in the real estate space was, you know, was a gift. It was a gift because everything was going sideways. You know, you had large investment firms going out of business that you’d swore they were going to be around for another hundred years. ⁓ so.

Dylan Silver (19:15)
Did

it feel like a movie?

Robert Dinan (19:17)
You know, I don’t know if it was a movie. It just, it just felt like it was, should all go away and it didn’t, you know, it just felt like it should all disappear. And, you know, it was going to be like a magic wand was going to be waved because, you know, it was just, it was chaos, complete chaos. ⁓ you know, especially, you know, for, you know, like, you know, all those guys I talked about moving down to Florida, pumping all their money into these properties.

You know and leveraging themselves out, you know, I mean, I hope none of them got too badly hurt But I mean they were selling big properties big businesses. I mean and deploying a ⁓ ton of money down here, you know and During that time again, they were buying at the height. So You know, and then we have that drop and you know, Florida didn’t didn’t have that dip that a lot of other places in the world did like, you know, Nevada and

other places that just went down to zero, right? mean, empty neighborhoods, we didn’t have that because people still want to move to Florida. People still love Florida. The benefits of Florida are amazing. You have no income tax, which is great. mean, on the 2026 docket, DeSantis has the possibility of eliminating property tax. So you actually own your property and you can be homesteaded in Florida too. So.

Dylan Silver (20:29)
Yeah.

Robert Dinan (20:41)
You know, if it’s your primary residence, they can’t go after you. Just like, you know, OJ got away with his house down here. Um, you know, they couldn’t touch it, even though, you know, he owed, you know, the people a ton of money. They couldn’t go after his, primary residence. So when you’re homesteaded, you’re protected and you have no income tax. And if they, they go into this, no, you know, property tax or, or less of a property tax, I don’t see them eliminating the whole property tax, but, um, it could happen, but I don’t see that.

But I mean, if they can eliminate a little bit of that to make up for right now what’s happening here, Dylan, is the increased insurance rates, which you got a lot of people from up north running scared because that’s all they hear. Insurance is crazy. Insurance is crazy. It’s not that crazy. It just depends on what’s relative to you. What do you think crazy is? But you look at taxes up north compared to taxes here and

Dylan Silver (21:37)
Okay.

Robert Dinan (21:38)
Yeah, it’s, know, I I look at, you know, when I left, when I sold my property there in Huntington Bay, I mean, we were at, we were at $25,000 a year, just in property taxes. mean, I moved down and sold the house, moved down to Florida. said to myself, I gave myself a $25,000 raise. Yeah.

Dylan Silver (21:55)
Yep.

That’s exactly how it is. That’s exactly how it is. then just, you know, the the climate, you know, I’m in Texas, and I think that the the Florida Texas connection is there. There’s also some friendly competition. I think Florida has our weather beat, which I think a lot of Texans listening to this, they’re to say you’re crazy. We got great weather over here, too. But there’s just something there’s something about the Florida weather. It’s unbelievable. Having been through there and traveled through there out the Fort Lauderdale area.

I go there like five times a year. Downtown Fort Lauderdale for my money’s worth rob is maybe the nicest area of the country. I was in downtown Fort Lauderdale and I was talking to someone who I just met and they said, you need to go to Boca. I’ve never been a Boca. And they said, they said, Boca, if you think this is nice, Boca is really the nicest one that you ever gonna, other than like Honolulu, this is as nice as it gets being an American. So I said, okay.

Robert Dinan (22:25)
Yeah, yeah.

at Boca Raton.

Yeah. So, so,

so let me give you the flip side of that. So you’re a New Jersey guy. I’m a New York guy. People usually choose the path of least resistance, right? Especially if you’re coming down from up North, right? And you’re, you’re, you’re driving, right? You take night, you take 95 down. That’s why New York, New Jersey, it’s like little New York, little New Jersey on, on the East coast of Florida.

right? ⁓ Just because it’s the path of least resistance. And, ⁓ you know, it was a ⁓ booming market for years. The West Coast of Florida being on the Gulf of Mexico side, ⁓ that is, you know, was for many years, for many years, like a deal, a deal to be on the West Coast of Florida, you know, from a purchasing price point, right? We finally caught up, we finally caught up to the rest of Florida, I think, I would say,

1617, I started seeing the prices really match where they should match the other side, because I mean, if you’re down even down in Naples on which is West Coast, right, even down in Naples, you could go down to Naples, you’re looking at a million dollar house there, you come to the West Coast Sarasota area just to use Sarasota. And, you know, instead of paying a million, you were paying, you know, 6700. You know, instead of buying a condo for, you know, 600, you were buying a condo for 400.

Dylan Silver (24:12)
Yeah, 40%.

Robert Dinan (24:18)
⁓ you know, and you know, Sarasota is, is, you know, that’s, that’s, that’s all changed, right? mean, pricing and I kicked myself in the rear end deal and for not buying, buying more properties, but, ⁓ don’t discount the West coast until you come here. ⁓ and on that note, I’ll, I’ll be very brief here, but my, my parents owned a house down in Florida from, from, you know, a condo for many years on the, ⁓

Dylan Silver (24:28)
Yeah.

Robert Dinan (24:44)
on the East Coast of Florida in a place called Indy River Plantation, Hutchison Island. A wonderful, wonderful spot in the world, the ⁓ sailfish capital of the world, actually, ⁓ if you’re a fisherman. I was a surfer. I always liked to surf. I liked being in, and I like fishing. I liked being in 2,000 feet of water and still seeing the girls on the beach in bikinis, right? ⁓ Without going, you

miles and miles offshore. So when my parents were coming down in Florida, they were buying in the late 90s before I purchased. I said to them, if you guys are going down there, I’ll go with third in on the property. Mom, me, and you, we’ll go with third. A third, a third, a third. And we’ll purchase the property together. So my dad ended up calling me. ⁓ And he said, Rob, we found the spot. We found the spot.

Dylan Silver (25:15)
Yep.

Robert Dinan (25:40)
And I said, great, where is it? it on Hutchison Island? it in Indian River? Where is it? Where is it? And they said, no, we’re in Venice. And I said, I thought you were going to Florida. I said, where the hell is Venice? And they’re like, it’s part of Sarasota County. It’s on the West Coast. I said, the West Coast? Why would you want to be on the West Coast? What are you talking about? That’s terrible. And my dad said, do you trust me? And I said, I do.

Dylan Silver (25:53)
Yeah.

You

Robert Dinan (26:08)
Of course I do. ⁓ it was extremely, again, extremely, extremely eye opening. And ⁓ I wouldn’t go back to the other side. I’ll go over there and visit and see my buddies and go fishing and stuff. But as far as living and lifestyle, the West Coast is absolutely fantastic. So if you can make a trip to see me, buddy, come see me. I’ll take you out fishing.

Dylan Silver (26:29)
Okay, so if I’m in…

If I’m gonna, I, let’s just talk about living. Let’s not talk about investing, but just living. West Coast, Florida, I wanna have the absolute best living as far as weather, as far as happy people, as far as, you know, ⁓ restaurants, so on and so forth. Where’s the place, where’s the area that I go to in West Florida?

Robert Dinan (26:38)
Yeah. Yeah.

So you’re a younger guy. for you, I would say the average age in Sarasota is 42. So let’s look at that. As you move a little bit further south down into the Venice area, it used to be in the high 70s. Now it’s in 62 years old. But that’s all changing too. That all changed.

Dylan Silver (27:06)
Okay.

Robert Dinan (27:21)
you know, with COVID, you know, I had more people coming down here asking me about school districts than I ever had before. No one ever asked about school districts. You know, it was always like, my kids are growing, I just want a nice place and I want to play golf or I want to just, you know, play tennis or I just want to go fishing, you know. I had the big house, I don’t need the big house. But for young guy like you, man, I would say that, you know, that St. Pete area. Yeah, St. Pete area is probably

Dylan Silver (27:46)
Same feet.

Robert Dinan (27:50)
the spot. mean, you’re talking about walkability downtown there, ⁓ parks, recreation, waterfront, ⁓ know, festivals, nightlife, you know, beyond your expectations. ⁓ You know, a bunch of different, you know, you have all the sports stadiums there, you know, right there in the, that area, you know, in the Tampa Bay area there, you know, you have the Bucks, you have the Lightning, you have, you know, Rowdy’s soccer team there.

And you have the race too, right? Baseball, so a few years back, we won all three. ⁓ I always say in Florida, if you’re in that St. Pete area, it’s like you’re 30 minutes from anywhere. In 30 minutes, you could be really anywhere. You could be on Clearwater Beach. You could be St. Pete Beach. You could be out on Treasure Island or some of the other barrier islands. ⁓

Dylan Silver (28:34)
Yeah.

Robert Dinan (28:47)
For you, man, I would say that St. Peter, yeah, absolutely. Hands down, hands down. If I wasn’t an old married guy, I’d be living down there myself, my friend.

Dylan Silver (28:49)
Well, guess what?

I’m so sold on this, I’m gonna, as

soon as we get off here, I’m gonna go look at Spirit. Everyone doesn’t like Spirit, but I love Spirit Airlines. I fly with them all the time. It’s the cheapest way to get anywhere, I feel like.

Robert Dinan (29:07)
Yes,

spirit and Allegiant into St. Pete Airport, St. Pete Clearwater Airport too. ⁓ yeah, absolutely, absolutely. But they fly right into the small boutique airport PIE right in St. Pete. So it’s a great spot, great spot to fly into. And Tampa Airport, don’t get me wrong, Tampa Airport’s fantastic. mean, they’ve done such a great job with that Tampa Airport and I travel quite often. So it’s a great spot.

Dylan Silver (29:13)
A Legion, I don’t- I have to look at if they’re in DFW, I’m sure they are, I just- I’ve never heard-

Well, I’ll be down there, Rob.

Robert Dinan (29:37)
Great spot.

Dylan Silver (29:38)
We are coming up on time here, Rob. Where can folks go to get ahold of you?

Robert Dinan (29:42)
⁓ well, if you like to reach out to me, you can always visit my website, ⁓ the dinan group that’s T H E D I N A N group, g r o u p e.com. ⁓ or you can, you know, reach me on any of the social media platforms, of course. And you know, as always, I’m Robert Dinan, your Florida realtor. And I’m happy to help anybody answer any questions and investing in the multifamily space and or.

know, resort space as well as, you know, residential or commercial investing. So happy to help. And Dylan, thank you for, ⁓ for having me on today. was a wonderful time. We shared some great thoughts.

Dylan Silver (30:21)
Yeah, thanks for coming on.

Robert Dinan (30:23)
Absolutely, my friend, absolutely.