How I Transformed My Life: Homeless to Real Estate Success Story

Brett McCollum (00:00.738)
All right, guys, welcome back to the show. I am your host, Brett McCollum, and I am here today with Rob Malcom. And today we’re going to talk about how Rob went from being homeless to now a real estate leader. Before we do, guys, at Investor Fuel, we help real estate investors, service providers, and real estate entrepreneurs to 2 to 5X their businesses to allow them to build the businesses they’ve always wanted and allow them to live the lives they’ve always dreamed of. Without further ado, Rob, how are you,

Rob Malcom (00:27.882)
Man, I’m just honored to be here, Brett. Really honored to be here. It’s been great getting to know you over the last little bit of time.

Brett McCollum (00:35.754)
Yeah, man, we had a good time catching up pre show and get to know each other a lot of commonality and things that we talked about, which is exciting. I love that. But I let’s save that for a little bit for the show, too, because there’s so much to unpack. But before we got to get into all the things, give us a little bit history background, you know, catch us up to speed. Who’s Rob?

Rob Malcom (00:42.665)
Yeah.

Rob Malcom (00:51.054)
you

Rob Malcom (00:56.684)
Yeah, so I spent most of my life addicted to drugs and alcohol. Like I wasted so many years and as an adult I caught some pretty heavy charges with the law which ended up…

Making me like for lack of better words homeless and I lived as a homeless person for several years in a car Actually with the woman that I’m married to right now, which we defeated all odds and we can talk about that in a little bit later But you know, I ended up getting clean and sober. I worked at a residential rehabilitation Place that was helping prisoners come out of prison early and my job was to teach them like how to paint how to do electrical work how to do plumbing work so the

Brett McCollum (01:24.898)
I don’t know.

Rob Malcom (01:42.048)
hopefully the recidivism rate wouldn’t be so high in our state Alabama so hopefully they would learn something take it home and

have a job that they could go to. From there, I ended up getting shot. Like, whole life I had lived just this crazy life. Never had a bullet in me. And then after I get clean, after I start following the Lord, after I start doing things right, I’m standing on a sidewalk. Back then I smoked cigarettes and a car pulled up four feet from me and just unloaded five rounds. Shot me, hit me three times.

point I had this when people when you hear in the movies like your life flashes before you’re it literally does I immediately thought of these conversations that I needed to wrap up I thought about all these business things that I wanted to do and things that I wanted to do with my wife and things that that I wanted to have a family it went

Brett McCollum (02:41.868)
Yeah.

Rob Malcom (02:42.358)
And I got this new perspective and immediately I was like, hey, I can’t do this thing with these prisoners anymore. I need to start my own thing. I started a construction company and we were doing, was, I was flipping house and sell them to hedge funds for several years.

Brett McCollum (02:51.383)
Wow.

Brett McCollum (03:00.961)
Okay.

Rob Malcom (03:01.646)
and I’m just giving you the highlights, Brett. Then from there, I ended up, the hedge funds out of nowhere told us they were done buying in our city in Birmingham. I was like, what about these letters of intent? You know, I’ve got 18 loans. These are high interest, short-term loans. And they were like, sorry, we’re out. So I got 18 houses that I had to figure out how to pay off. And it was a nightmare. became a landlord over

Brett McCollum (03:04.479)
Yeah, yeah.

Rob Malcom (03:31.552)
overnight so now I know how to be a landlord. But we also changed. We changed our business model that we shifted and I was like, know, I’m not gonna allow a big company or a big group of people to be able to set my course, right? I wanna set my own course. And so we started flipping houses and selling to, for lack of better words, Joe Public. I wasn’t selling to the funds.

Brett McCollum (03:34.646)
Yeah. Yeah.

Brett McCollum (03:57.996)
Yeah.

Rob Malcom (04:01.408)
Since then I’ve set up and opened three years, four years ago we opened a brand new brokerage right in the middle of COVID.

Brett McCollum (04:11.222)
Good timing.

Rob Malcom (04:13.41)
You know But we have we now have 50 real estate agents working for us in that brokerage I have flipped over a little over 300 houses in in that when I set up my new model I’ve been a part of over 1200 real estate transactions Since we’ve set all this up. So very high Volume is what I’m used to doing and working under a whole lot of pressure So I feel like when things come at me because I’m already used to

working under such high pressure, we can usually figure out what’s the shift. Yeah? That’s the bing bing bing, like the real quick Rob Malcom where I’ve been and where we are right now.

Brett McCollum (04:48.823)
Yeah.

Brett McCollum (04:59.532)
Dude, what in the world, man? Yeah, that, mean, it’s like you flipped two, three, four lives, you know? Let’s back up, okay? I think that’s the best way to do it. Let’s back up, okay? I love doing this, because then it’ll help us, and obviously I wanna lead into all the real estate, okay? We’re a real estate show, we wanna talk about real estate.

Rob Malcom (05:11.054)
Sure.

Rob Malcom (05:24.14)
Absolutely.

Brett McCollum (05:27.436)
You mentioned early on, drugs and alcohol, and that was a major influence in your life. Ultimately leads you to, did you mention that it was at jail, or what happened that?

Rob Malcom (05:42.274)
got a 10 year sentence that I got so lucky that this judge allowed me to do what they call drug court.

And the thing is, there were seven of us that all got arrested at the same time, but they didn’t think, we’re pretty sure, they didn’t think we were gonna go finish it. Like it’s very hard, especially for people like us. I was a daily user, like every single day user. And the deal is, it’s 10 years. If I pop on your analysis, I’m gonna serve out every day of that. And it was just a huge wake up call for me. I was like, gosh, I’m an adult. You know, I’m not a kid anymore. What am I doing?

Brett McCollum (05:59.458)
Hmm.

Brett McCollum (06:19.372)
Yeah. How old were you back then when that was…ish? Wow.

Rob Malcom (06:19.504)
But mid to late 30s, yeah, wake up call way late in life. Way late in life. I got connected with some groups that were Christian based groups and honestly that saved my life. It saved my life.

Brett McCollum (06:28.076)
You’re a real adult. Yeah.

Brett McCollum (06:42.178)
Yeah, man. Yeah, and that’s because, mean, you know, I, you know, we talked to people, I’ve known several real estate investors with a maybe similar, you know, kind of, you know, like kind of thing. But like most people, it’s like, dude, you were a real adult, right? You know, people are like, yeah, I was an adult. It’s like, yeah, I’m older. I was 21. Like, okay, you’re not a real adult yet. You know, but like you’re, yeah. So do you know that some things like this though, that

Rob Malcom (07:02.382)
Yeah

Brett McCollum (07:11.616)
I I don’t want to like condone that that was okay that like let’s let’s say that and I don’t think you would either they’re like hey you know being a drug and alcohol user is great like of course like we’re not saying that okay but having gone through that and having that moment that happened as a as a like a moment of time a rock that you can go back to in a pillar that you can go back to me like this helped me become this yeah and the

Rob Malcom (07:37.912)
Yeah, 100%.

Brett McCollum (07:40.884)
almost people saying it a lot, like it didn’t happen to you, it happened for you. I think a lot of times God lets us come through these things where he could have allowed Rob to not have anything to do with drugs and alcohol. He could have, right? I he’s God after all. He’s God after all, isn’t he?

Rob Malcom (07:44.926)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I agree with that.

Rob Malcom (07:56.878)
It would have been a whole different story. Yeah, that’s right.

Brett McCollum (08:02.294)
But like, had that not, then maybe this isn’t work, maybe you and I aren’t even talking right now.

Rob Malcom (08:07.512)
Yeah, it’s true.

Brett McCollum (08:08.738)
Like, yeah, so that’s really, yeah, and then, so I didn’t wanna gloss over that, because I think there’s so much power in the fact that what you went through to overcome to even just serving out that drug court sentence of, how long did they give you for that, by the way? 18 months. But 18 months when you’ve been using every day. It may as well have been 100 years.

Rob Malcom (08:25.208)
It was 18 months.

Rob Malcom (08:30.272)
It was, it was, it was so hard. It was so hard. But I mean, I had to constantly tell myself, hey, if I mess up, I’m going away for 10 years. Like I had done some really dumb stuff. I got really lucky. I got really lucky. The judge that I was in front of.

Brett McCollum (08:35.735)
Yeah.

Brett McCollum (08:51.84)
Yeah, but it taught you a lot about yourself too, I’m sure, right? That like, you know what? I can do it.

Rob Malcom (08:57.952)
And I think that’s the basis for me being able to shift during hard times. Because I was able to come up through that and you know a lot of times you know I don’t realize to looking way back like I was blaming everybody for everything back then. But I was able just to pull my boots up and figure things out. I had to.

Brett McCollum (09:03.712)
Mm-hmm.

Brett McCollum (09:19.01)
Mm-hmm.

Rob Malcom (09:19.246)
And that translates into business, you know, once you’ve been through something extremely hard like that it transfers right into business

Brett McCollum (09:21.922)
Truly.

Brett McCollum (09:28.79)
Yeah. And then you had mentioned too, and those choices lead to homelessness. You know, we kind of, we let off the show how Rob went from this to that, you know, so it leads to homelessness, you know. How old are you at this point? Like you’re homeless in a car. How old is, how old are you?

Rob Malcom (09:47.222)
Yeah, it was right after my charges. I didn’t, when they came in and raided our apartment, I wasn’t able to rent anything. Nobody was going to trust somebody that was all over the news. You know what I mean? Like it was, it wasn’t happening. But I was still, before I started that drug court, I was still using some and just, I was down, way down. So yeah, I moved into my Mitsubishi Eclipse with my girlfriend, who’s now my wife. And we lived in that Mitsubishi

Brett McCollum (09:50.326)
Wow, okay.

Rob Malcom (10:17.186)
Ibushi Eclipse for almost two years. It was nuts.

Brett McCollum (10:21.164)
Wow.

Two years, man. We talked a little pre-show too, as a teenager, living in an environment like that. But as an adult that’s responsible to that, it’s a different thing. But my heart goes out, man, because I’ve lived it with you at some point, right?

Rob Malcom (10:39.98)
Yeah. So look, I got clean.

Rob Malcom (10:47.01)
Yeah, I can remember she was my girlfriend at the time, Shannon, and we had gone and begged for money and we got off the, this dates how old I am, but we got off the 99 cent meal thing at McDonald’s, right? And we split a cheeseburger and we looked at each other and she goes, this is the best cheeseburger I’ve ever had. That kept me going, you know what I mean? Instead of just going, we only got a half a cheeseburger. It’s the best cheeseburger I’ve ever had.

Brett McCollum (11:17.142)
That’s so, okay. We weren’t gonna go here, but now we are. I think it’s, and you know, I was talking to somebody yesterday, and it’s the moment we lose gratefulness for even the half of cheeseburger.

That’s when we’ve lost. But like, being able to, and you being able to recollect that, now fast forward to today, that’s another pillar to stand on too, of like, you know what? Like, I’ve been grateful with little, and I can be grateful with much, but if you can’t be grateful for the little things you have, how in the world can I expect to be grateful for when I have more? Man, that’s powerful, man. We could stay on that for a while.

Rob Malcom (11:39.032)
Yeah.

Rob Malcom (12:00.631)
It’s true.

Rob Malcom (12:04.846)
One of my coaches told me…

Brett McCollum (12:05.186)
Because honestly, that’s what we have to really focus on because there’s no doubt out there right now that real estate is a difficult market out there navigating what’s going on in the world today. There’s no doubts about it. But I think if anybody’s listening to this, if they can rewind back and go, man, most people probably can’t relate to living in a car for two years and doing that. Most people cannot relate to that.

But what you should be able to take out of that, if you guys rewind it and listen to what he said is, this is the best cheeseburger I’ve had. Because let’s be honest, a 99 cent cheeseburger from McDonald’s is not the best cheeseburger you’ve ever had. Okay? But what it represented was I have food that I can eat today and I’m grateful. And it may as well be the best cheeseburger I ever had.

Rob Malcom (12:40.835)
Yeah.

Rob Malcom (12:45.012)
It was awful. Yeah.

Rob Malcom (12:58.646)
It became a thing for us. That’s what we did when we were splitting food, when we were that broken homeless. was the best salad we’d ever had when we were splitting, whatever it was. that really, I mean, some people think that sounds dumb, but that brought us through. It brought us through.

Brett McCollum (13:17.398)
Yeah, I think we need to go back to more of that mentality though. You know, if like, I’m struggling right now, but this is the best podcast I’ve ever hosted. know, like this, you know, this is, we have to man, like it’s tough out there, you know, but let’s be grateful for what’s in front of us. You know, I heard a pastor preach a message recently and this is a cool story. He basically is like, you know, when it’s nighttime.

Rob Malcom (13:26.958)
Yeah.

Brett McCollum (13:44.714)
Let’s use, if you’re listening guys, follow the metaphor if you can, okay? It’s nighttime, you cannot see past where your headlights show, correct? A lot of representation of our businesses today, maybe for some of us. Like, it’s dark, I can barely see in front, I don’t know what’s coming. Because it’s dark in front, I don’t know what’s next. But I can see in front of my headlights. And it basically is like, you can drive from, in Birmingham, I’m in Gainesville, okay? So we live.

Rob Malcom (13:54.574)
Mm-hmm.

Brett McCollum (14:13.098)
I know the drive, I’ve done it, it’s about nine hours. Okay? So we live about nine hours apart. You can drive nine hours through the night and make it to your destination. And the idea that he said is you gotta look forward, not far. You know, look forward, not far. So do the thing every day, like be grateful for the half a cheeseburger, be grateful for the salad, be grateful for the things that you have today. And you get through these things. You know, and I think you’re living proof of that, man. Like I just, I don’t wanna spend

Rob Malcom (14:26.968)
Yeah.

Rob Malcom (14:38.88)
Mm-hmm.

Brett McCollum (14:42.806)
I don’t want to spend a ton of time hanging out there, so let’s move forward a bit. You started your own construction thing, you started flipping houses, you’ve done how many of these houses at this point, now what is that, kind of what walks through some of the transition of now I’m starting to flip houses, what does that look like for you?

Rob Malcom (14:46.2)
Sure.

Rob Malcom (14:59.374)
Okay, yeah, after we decide, when I say we were flipping houses to hedge funds, we were doing 85 a year, so it wasn’t like a few. But I do want to tell you how I got into that real fast if you don’t mind. So I was doing maintenance on some apartments and it was for a property manager and I saw this guy walking around and we were in a class D neighborhood, okay?

Brett McCollum (15:09.484)
Yeah.

Brett McCollum (15:13.411)
Go for it.

Brett McCollum (15:23.553)
Okay.

Rob Malcom (15:25.396)
and I saw this guy walking around who clearly didn’t fit in. He just clearly didn’t fit in. And I bet my business partner at the time, said, hey man, I’m gonna bet you 20 bucks. That dude over there is from Utah, right? Just out of those, just how weird is that? You know what I mean? And so we made the bet and went over there and talked to him. The guy was from Utah, but that guy, yeah, yeah. He was an acquisitions manager for a fund.

Brett McCollum (15:42.774)
No way.

Brett McCollum (15:48.076)
Okay.

Rob Malcom (15:48.842)
Now look at the time we had bought one house we had bought our first house we had already done the work but we didn’t know what to do with it we were so naive in the business.

And this guy goes, oh, this is what we’re doing. And my business partner says, oh, man, we’re looking for guys like you. We sell houses to, you know, to funds. And he’s like, well, how many can you give me? And my partner goes, I don’t know, eight or 10. We can probably do, we can probably sell you 10 a month. Now don’t forget, we’ve only bought one. And we didn’t know. And I’m looking at him like eight to 10, maybe 10.

Brett McCollum (16:18.346)
What did you say?

Rob Malcom (16:21.196)
He goes, he flies, so he took our information, flies home, connected us with one of the people in his office, and we started out. They told us what they wanted, and we went and got them. They were buying about 10 a month for a while. It was great. But it was great until it wasn’t. They just came out of nowhere and said, we’re done, we’re not buying houses.

And I had a pipeline where I had borrowed back then we were borrowing the money to buy the house, renovate it, put a tenant in it. And then they were buying based off of the amount the rent was, right? I had projects in every aspect of that.

And they were only three months. They were 90 day loans and they were high interest. And when they said that, I was like, some of these were already at the end. I didn’t know what to do with them. So we became landlords. We eventually got rid of all of them. But yeah, it was a, it was tough. That’s what put us into flipping houses, like the traditional way where we’re selling them to the public. Um, I started focusing on a neighborhood here in Birmingham called Norwood.

Brett McCollum (17:22.434)
Okay.

Rob Malcom (17:29.774)
and it is a hundred year old neighborhood It was a in it of itself was a victim of redlining back in the day and you know The values of the houses were down. So I was buying houses eight years ago in this neighborhood for like fifteen and twenty thousand dollars And I could only get them. I could only sell them for about ninety. That was about it

And so we figured out a way how to get this month. The last one I sold, and this is eight years later, I sold for 470. Same neighborhood. We flipped 56 houses in this neighborhood. but there’s a lot of relationships that go in, you know, you have to start meeting with a lot of people that actually can either help or hinder, you know, and appraisers are one of those, you know,

Brett McCollum (18:06.017)
Wow.

Brett McCollum (18:17.345)
Right.

Rob Malcom (18:20.862)
I had found a guy who was working at a local bank writing mortgages and I just started asking him how many people are, how many appraisers are in your wheel, right? And he was telling me about five. And I asked him to give me all their contacts.

So I knew that he was going to be able to get this job done as a mortgage, no matter what. Right. And so I went and talked to all the appraisers and really felt comfortable with a guy who lived in a neighborhood such as the one we’re talking about and knew the struggles. And so I asked if he could give me a subject to appraisal. There’s no contract.

There’s no way he can lose his license, but I’m going to do this much work. Can you give me this valuation? You see what I’m saying? And then the next week, can you give me this value? The other piece of that was I had to call the lender and say, if a deal falls apart, can you take it back over? How, how old can the appraisal be that I have? Can you use it? And it was like 90 days. So we figured out how to get an appraisal without a contract, put it in a desk drawer.

following, then you put the house up for sale and man it was such an up-and-coming neighborhood. deal over deal was falling apart because their appraisal piece wouldn’t couldn’t figure it out. I would tell the people on every deal, hey look if your client really really likes this house call that number on that sign right there and he’ll do it.

Brett McCollum (19:45.164)
Yeah.

Rob Malcom (19:55.318)
And as soon as they called, would shove that appraisal over to his office and the deal would happen. So the neighborhoods started crawling like this instead of like this. that took a lot of time to figure out, but man, I mean, this is one of those neighborhoods though, super close to downtown Birmingham. It was gonna happen at some point anyway, you know, where

Brett McCollum (20:03.787)
Yeah.

Rob Malcom (20:18.818)
People in their 30s don’t want to live over the mountain or way out in the suburbs. They want to live closer to downtown and this is the best spot for it. So I keep saying this one that I’m actually here. My wife and I bought a house in the neighborhood. We were flipping in. We live there. So that was a lot of little gold nuggets that, you know, we were able to share with other people on how to turn some of these up and coming neighborhoods faster.

Brett McCollum (20:37.708)
Wow.

Brett McCollum (20:46.69)
Yeah, but the ability to navigate it and pivot and all right, here’s the roadblock. Okay, it’s just a roadblock. How do we navigate the roadblock? you know, that’s, mean, that’s a lot of flipping houses, right? Like, you know, like it’s not just simply, you know, let me go in there and paint it, put some new flooring down and get, hey, let’s get some new appliances and it’s just gonna work. Yeah.

Rob Malcom (21:07.244)
yeah, the problem solving is as much. Yeah, there’s as much problem solving as there is, you know, painting and trim work and putting new roofs. Like that’s the easy part. The hard, the hard parts, the all the other stuff.

Brett McCollum (21:18.38)
Yeah.

All the other stuff, yeah, and there’s a lot of other stuff. I mean, I’ve been on the other side of, you know, official, like building officials shutting you down for 10 months. And then finally when they greenlit us, the man, I’m so polite. said, hey, sir, what happened? You know, I so nice to him. And he goes, can I, basically, he can I be honest with you? I was like, yeah, like I wanna learn, I wanna know so I don’t mess this up again. He goes, I just didn’t like what you were doing.

It’s a great light.

Rob Malcom (21:52.568)
There’s a lot of that out there, man. It’s just unfortunate.

Brett McCollum (21:55.106)
And yeah, and so like, that hurts, right? And you stop and on the other side of that, I roadblocks, man, like things that are out of your control, things you can’t, you know, but you got to work and pivot and just work.

Rob Malcom (22:06.638)
Do you know what I figured out on that? Like there are, there are.

inspectors that will not work with certain people. They’re just there are and so we’ll know we’ll figure out who the inspector is in what area and in the morning you’ll call for your inspection ask for that inspector and if they transfer you just hang up and then call the next day until he’s because in our area they only work three days on two days off three days on two days off so at some point he’s not gonna be there and then you get another and speak call in your specter and get somebody that can work for you.

Brett McCollum (22:32.226)
yeah.

Brett McCollum (22:39.042)
That’s, I mean, yeah, and you probably learned that, by the way, the hard way of going and figuring out who that person that you don’t want, right? Yeah, I mean, that’s what we call, like, if you got, like, it happens. But fast forward, you’ve done all the stuff, you’ve navigated this, you’ve had all these different things happen. Today, Rob, what are you working on now? What’s life looking like? Catch us up there.

Rob Malcom (22:42.062)
Zip.

Rob Malcom (23:01.366)
Yeah, so last year we worked on, we wrote a book and it’s our entire story, all the gory, it’s pretty rough read to be honest. We wrote that book and then I built a course to help people in my area flip houses. There’s just so many people that are losing money and not doing things the right way and not understanding exactly what we were talking about. It’s more than putting a roof on and putting some paint on. You have to understand the whole.

And if I can teach people to understand the whole, that’s where I am now. I’m 53 years old, you know, like I’ve seen it, I’ve done it, I’ve been here and I want my neighbors and the people that live around me to feel some of the same success. If they’re going to be in it anyway, they might as well learn how to do it right. So we’ve done that. We built that course and I, I just started buying airbnbs. I bought houses and transferred them to airbnbs started last year.

Brett McCollum (23:52.247)
Yeah.

Rob Malcom (24:01.42)
We have 18 No, I have 18. I was have 13 Airbnb doors And that’s fun. And so I’m building a course on how to run a successful Airbnb business as well. That should be out later

Brett McCollum (24:16.78)
Yeah, man. Dude, bravo, seriously. it’s a, no, because like it’s such a, and I can tell though from talking to you even before and now during the show, like, it’s not lost on you.

where you came from, like you should be the statistic.

Rob Malcom (24:36.994)
Yeah, that’s right.

Brett McCollum (24:38.806)
You know, and I think that’s really like one of reasons why I don’t think, you know, biblically, it’s like, God’s known to respect our persons. We hear that, you know what mean? Okay, sure. But I also believe God honors people that, you know, behave like, you know what, like, I don’t deserve what is this. And I’m gonna make the most out of it.

Rob Malcom (24:58.422)
I agree, but if you believe that everything’s God’s, then we’re just managers of His stuff, right? And so if you just sit on it, are you doing what you’re supposed to be doing, right? Like I constantly have to shift and figure out how to do the best. I have to be the best manager of what I’ve been given.

Brett McCollum (25:05.751)
That’s it.

Brett McCollum (25:17.868)
Well, and I’m not, okay, we’re not gonna go super preachy or anything like that, but there’s a, know, Jesus always spoke in parables, you know, and it’s the parable of the talents. You you’ve got the one who gave 10, two, the one who gave five, the one who gave one, or was it three, whatever. But the one, like, he went out, the one with 10 doubled it, and he blesses him. Great. The one five, he doubles it, and he blesses him. And then the one with one sat on it, and rebukes him. And he said, why didn’t you do that? Why didn’t you do it?

Rob Malcom (25:21.506)
you

Rob Malcom (25:27.726)
That’s right.

Rob Malcom (25:43.086)
Yeah.

Brett McCollum (25:48.256)
These other guys like, why didn’t you? And the answer was, well, I didn’t want to squander or lose.

Rob Malcom (25:53.218)
I was scared. I listened to somebody on one of your podcasts just a week ago and he was talking about fear and that’s exactly what I was thinking about when I was listening to that podcast.

Brett McCollum (26:03.116)
Yeah, yeah, there’s a principle for a reason. Like, you can look back and go like, hey, you know what, if you have the ability to do it, that is also now your responsibility.

Rob Malcom (26:14.276)
Yes!

Brett McCollum (26:16.832)
You know, and it’s like, once we grab a hold of that as entrepreneurs, like that is not a, by the way, I was not a natural born entrepreneur. Okay. Like this is something that was developed and now I’m like, okay, well now this is my, this is now a responsibility. You know, not for me or for my family, but for the other people that eventually are going to be impacted by this, those 56 houses in that community that may not have been touched or may have been touched. Those that you have a responsibility, you know, like

And I just think it’s really special that you did that, man, that you’re leading from the front of all this stuff, man. It’s just really cool.

Rob Malcom (26:53.846)
I appreciate I lost you for just a second, but I think I know what you were saying.

Brett McCollum (26:57.762)
Yeah, okay. I was just saying, man, I really appreciate you leading from the front of this and showing people like, you know, what good leadership looks like and you’re doing it, Yeah. Yeah. Well, Rob, how can people get ahold of you and connect with you?

Rob Malcom (27:05.678)
Appreciate that. Appreciate that.

Rob Malcom (27:11.822)
would say go to riseuponline.info. It’s got our book, it’s got our course, and then they can contact me directly from there. Riseuponline.info.

Brett McCollum (27:21.686)
to that rise up on like guys will put in the show notes too. But man, I encourage you guys go there and do that. If you’re and I don’t care where you’re at connect with Rob, but if you’re in Alabama, if you’re in. I’m telling you like I’m Rob, I don’t want to put your business out there, but I can I just think I’m guessing your heart here. If you’re anywhere in proximity and you have an opportunity to get a link schedule at some point where it makes sense, spend, spend five minutes with the man.

Rob Malcom (27:49.304)
you

Brett McCollum (27:50.26)
and I’m telling you, won’t walk away sorry, okay? So Rob man, thanks for being here today, sharing your story, sharing what you’re at, what you’re doing. I appreciate it.

Rob Malcom (27:57.836)
Yeah, this was fun. Thanks for having me.

Brett McCollum (28:00.226)
Guys, again, great episode today. I appreciate you guys listening, and we’ll see every one of you on the next one. Take care, everybody.