Reinventing Your Career & Building Wealth Through Investing with Tommy Dee

Christian (00:01.102)
Hey everybody, welcome to the show. I have Tommy here with us today and we are going to be talking about how he reinvented his career and built wealth through investing. Tommy, I’m excited to talk with you today, man. I know we have a lot to talk about, so why don’t you just share to the people, know, your background, how you got here and just your story.

Tommy Dee (00:26.844)
Yeah, no problem. My name is Tommy D. Last name is actually Dobzik. That’s the one that my dad gave me when I was born, but it’s a little tricky to say. So I shortened it up to Tommy D. And so you can find me on a lot of social media with that. So my backstory, I was born with a, you know, most people say they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. I was born with a golden hammer in my tool belt.

My dad was a general contractor and I watched him change his career in pivot a lot when I was a kid. Only to learn when I was like 14 or 15 years old that my dad’s high school education was limited. He was dyslexic and so he had no ability to read or write. And so I always wondered about that because he was just often struggling with jobs.

But it was very mechanical, very good with his hands and configured things out pretty easily. And I recently learned that people with dyslexia usually make the best entrepreneurs because they live in a problem-solving world all the time. So, but yeah, my dad got me started. And I would say somewhere around my mid twenties, I had, I had achieved high levels of success that most people my age didn’t.

And I didn’t know what I was doing with it. And I pissed away over, you know, over $20 million. And so a lot of it into bad real estate decisions. It was 2005, 2006 when I made the money. And so by 2007, 2008, nobody was keeping it. And so I went through that experience and by the grace of God ended up in the healthcare field.

and I became a registered nurse. spent eight years, in, in the ERs, going across the country before COVID. I was a travel nurse. was, I was doing things in nursing and healthcare that, a lot of people had never done before. And it was because I understood the autonomy behind being a registered nurse. So, a lot of people, forget that.

Tommy Dee (02:51.139)
We had the American Affordability Healthcare Act, or as most people know it as Obamacare. Obamacare caused the entire healthcare industry to change. And one of the things I did was I became a super user. Obamacare made it where you couldn’t, could no longer do charting and documentation on paper. Everything had to go into a computer.

Christian (02:52.618)
huh.

Tommy Dee (03:20.46)
And so I was one of the first nursing classes to graduate with the computer sciences. And we went into hospitals and I was getting paid more than the doctors I was training. So I spent the first four years of my career teaching hospitals across the country how to use computer charting instead of paper charting. So we…

Christian (03:30.146)
Wow.

Tommy Dee (03:48.473)
From there, COVID happened, whatever. But I started investing again, I think in like 2018. I started seeing things change here in Arizona. And I jumped into doing some real estate deals that I’ve always done land. I’ve always done commercial. So the first deal I got into was a five acre with a house that I split and I turned a $300,000 investment into $2.7 million.

Christian (03:53.816)
Mm-hmm.

Christian (04:04.067)
Mm.

Christian (04:14.22)
Wow.

Tommy Dee (04:18.618)
And so when COVID happened and they mandated shots, they mandated masks, I said, okay, adios. Took my leave of absence and went straight back into construction. getting a fill. And the nice thing was I had a database of doctors that I still talk to and those guys love to invest in real estate. we did, since 2020, we’ve done 27 partner deals and made over a $30 million.

Christian (04:23.022)
Yep.

Christian (04:42.766)
my gosh, that’s incredible, Tommy, that’s a hell of a story. I will say, mean, to be an ER nurse, right, and to have all the down pits and falls, and now you have the success. I I’m curious though, transitioning, right, from ER nurse, I know you’ve been in real estate, but what made the ticker to go back into full-time real estate investing?

Tommy Dee (05:11.513)
The lockdown when they, we went lockdown and the essential worker became the blue collar worker. I was like, yeah. It was like a wake up call, like ding dong. You know, it was my, you know, it was my, it was my invitation back to the ball. You know, I lost $20 million in real estate, in 20, you know, 20 eight. And in 2018, seen, you know, things turning around and I was paying attention to it.

Christian (05:12.482)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Christian (05:17.784)
Yeah.

Tommy Dee (05:40.163)
So when 2020 came around, March, I’ll remember it like it was yesterday. In January of 2020, decided at that point I would be a general contractor by the end of the year. And in December, 2020, I started BSN Construction and had a $1.5 million investor give me money to build three houses, three custom homes.

And we built those three custom homes and turned them into the first million dollar homes to be sold in the town that they were built in.

Christian (06:16.142)
That’s incredible. That’s incredible. So I mean, I’m curious, because you and I were speaking offline before we started recording. And I’m just curious to know where all this passion and drive kind of stemmed from, right? I know you’ve been a student of Rich Dad Poor Dad, right? mean, how did that book shape your mindset about wealth and building financial freedom that you have today?

Tommy Dee (06:21.241)
So.

Tommy Dee (06:42.712)
Well, the nice thing was that I had a rich dad and I did have a poor dad. And what’s crazy is, is even after reading rich dad, poor dad, I went to college, got into college debt and took on student loan debt so that I could survive. And so I invested in myself, I invested into my education, and I did it under the pretense that because I was going to work in difficult areas, my student loans would be forgiven.

Christian (06:43.694)
Mm.

Christian (07:06.99)
Mm-hmm.

Tommy Dee (07:12.6)
Unfortunately, that never happened. That’s okay. But I started the construction company BSN Construction because that’s the last degree I earned with student loans was my Bachelor of Science of Nursing. So the name is morphed out of BSN, meaning Bachelor of Science of Nursing, over to Better Start Now Construction. But that’s kind of how

Christian (07:21.922)
No kidding. Wow. Yeah.

Tommy Dee (07:41.493)
That’s kind of how entrepreneurs work. That’s what Rich Dad Poor Dad’s kind of about. Rich Dad was probably my first wealth building book that I ever read. I can tell you right now I’ve written, read about 150 since then. But the premise is always, you know, the foundation was always the rich dad, poor dad mentality that working with others, helping others, growing with the team.

Christian (07:54.968)
Wow.

Christian (08:00.632)
Mm-hmm.

Tommy Dee (08:09.91)
That’s the part that I missed when I lost my first 20 million was working with multiple businesses, being diversified, having a landscape company, having a laundry mat, having a having it back then. It was a video store rental. If you didn’t own a video store rental in town, you weren’t you weren’t nobody, man. Like you had to have a shop that had a little a little bit of a selection of family movies, cartoons and even the adult stuff in the back behind a curtain.

Christian (08:24.558)
Yeah.

Christian (08:34.402)
I miss those days.

Tommy Dee (08:39.338)
That was how you knew you made it, was when you had the town video store for rent, you know? the rich dad mentality, when I got into nursing was very much the same as well. Like I knew a lot of rich doctors, their brain was one track focused, medicine, medicine, medicine. And with all the changes that was going on in healthcare, I started two industries in healthcare.

Christian (08:43.458)
Yeah.

Christian (09:07.651)
Mmm.

Tommy Dee (09:08.512)
just because I wasn’t from that world. You know, one of the businesses that we started was actually what’s called a scribe business. And doctors were having a difficult time going to a computer and entering their orders because again, because everything had to be computer charted. So me and two other doctors came up with an idea of recruiting interns.

that are medical students to come in and act as a scribe back in the days of Rome and like like Athens and stuff like that. Your your your theologist, your smart people walked around with groups of people and they took notes and then he just referred to their notes for his books. And that’s literally what a scribe was. They documented all the actions of that person. We invented that business and it became a multimillion dollar business.

Christian (09:57.811)
wow.

Tommy Dee (10:04.786)
that we contracted to over 250 hospitals across the country.

Christian (10:09.571)
Wow.

Tommy Dee (10:11.08)
That was my first one. So and then the second one came by way of I was transitioning through some things in nursing. Like I said, I was a travel nurse. I was out here in Arizona. I was going to school at ASU for my doctorate degree. I was working on my pediatric pediatric practitionership and I I went to Vegas and I was I’m not a big drinker, not a big partier, but I like to, you know, I like to.

you know, support my friends when they do dumb shit like get married in Vegas, you know, so I went out there with my girlfriend. She got hammered and she’s drunk. And I’m not a big fan of like, you know, slushy women. So I was like, what do I do with her? My buddy’s like, call this place. They’ll come out and they’ll put an IV in and she’ll be all set. And I’m like. Let’s try it next thing, you know, I’m in Arizona and I started the first IV hydration in home therapy.

Christian (10:55.63)
Bye.

Tommy Dee (11:07.569)
business in 28. It was in 2017 when I started that. And so now there’s, there’s over, I think there’s over 175 practitioners across the state. And there’s like 30 or 40 shops that you can go to and get IV treatment before I did it. Before I did it, you could only go to the hospital and do it. So,

Christian (11:11.776)
No kidding.

Christian (11:22.19)
Yeah, that’s everywhere now, man. Yeah.

Christian (11:27.821)
Yeah.

Tommy Dee (11:33.061)
But I sold out of that business, got into stem cells. I was doing stem cell therapy for a while with a naturopathic doctor. But I learned that by working with the doctors, like in which Rich Dad, Poor Dad, his poor dad was a PhD professor, you know? And so those people, have a little bit of liquid income and they tend to try and invest it in things that are safe.

and all that because they know they’re not going to teach forever. They know they’re not going to be doctors forever. You know. Well, their first payout, the student loans, when a doctor pays off his student loans, the next plannings focused on is his retirement. They literally their focus is how to get into the business so they can figure out how to get out. And that’s really where I learned about about exiting the importance to building exit strategy into your businesses.

Christian (12:00.152)
They have a plan right for the long term. Exactly. Tommy, guess the real question is.

Christian (12:22.968)
Sure. Yeah, it’s vital to your success long-term, right? mean, Tommy, guess the real question is what haven’t you done? So, yeah. Yeah, I love that, man.

Tommy Dee (12:34.811)
nothing. Like when I had a roofing company in Florida, I was a bullfighter. I went out and sold, I went out and sold my services as a bullfighter so I could hang my banner on the rodeo gates when the bulls come busting out. So I’ve done, I’ve done demolition Derby. My, my hero growing up was, what’s his name? evil Knievel. You ever seen evil Knievel? Okay.

Christian (12:44.632)
Genius.

Christian (12:49.602)
That’s awesome, Yeah.

Christian (12:57.77)
Evil Knievel, yeah, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Legend.

Tommy Dee (13:03.791)
He’s my hero. He’s my hero, not because he got dumb shit and almost killed himself. He’s my hero because he walked in the Caesar’s Palace. He told the president, the owner of the hotel, that he was going to make a ramp out in front of his his hotel and jump the fountain with his motorcycle. And he had two choices. He could sell tickets or he could. That was it. He said, I’m doing it. I don’t I’m going to either do it with your helper. I’m going to do it without you. It doesn’t matter.

Christian (13:17.368)
heard that story.

Christian (13:31.202)
It all starts with one person.

Tommy Dee (13:34.186)
And Evil Knievel literally was that way business. And so I’ve kind of emulated myself in that way that once I set my mind to do it, it’s not about when it’s about how, how am I going to build it? How am I going to do it? Because it’s already done in my brain. It’s already done. So as soon as I’m done with the, how the wind’s going to happen immediately, you know,

Christian (13:51.906)
I love that man. Speaking of two existence, right? Well, let’s talk about that too. mean, it sounds like with all the knowledge that you possess, I know you’re helping other people achieve success through Genesis Wealth, right? So let’s talk about that. What strategies do you use to guide your clients in building, you know, a strong real estate portfolio and everything else that you would advise on?

Tommy Dee (14:06.958)
34 partners, yeah.

Tommy Dee (14:17.612)
I’m going to blow your mind, it’s the simplest thing in the world and most people wouldn’t even understand it. Every mentee-mentor relationship I have starts with the gay monopoly.

Christian (14:27.264)
Interesting.

Tommy Dee (14:31.829)
I teach people how to play Monopoly because it teaches, the game Monopoly teaches three things. It teaches you how to negotiate with people. It teaches you how to structure deals. And it teaches you how to manage money.

And so if you don’t have those three principles, I can’t teach you shit and investing like you can go. Like, for example, in sales, I tell people if you can’t formulate a 10 second pitch, I don’t care where you go. You can go to Brian Tracy conferences for the rest of your life. You can go to you can go read every single sales training book in the world. But if you don’t know how to formulate a 10 second pitch.

Christian (14:49.795)
Yeah.

Tommy Dee (15:14.142)
You are not going to ever be successful enough in sales to support yourself and retire. Right. So investing, if you can’t play the simplest game in the world based on real estate and you don’t know the fundamentals of that game, then you can’t ever become a good real estate investor. Period. You’re going to struggle and then you’re going to make yourself a hero when you make it out of a struggle, when reality is getting it through a struggle shouldn’t make you a hero or anything. It should mean that you’ve learned

Christian (15:17.304)
Mm-hmm.

Christian (15:42.382)
Mmm.

Tommy Dee (15:43.924)
Now, never repeat. But there are so many people that go out there and repeat the same problem over and over and over that they make themselves think that, look, I’m so good at solving problems. No, you make your own problem, which makes you your own hero, which makes you a time waster.

Christian (15:47.202)
never learn from it.

Christian (15:52.462)
you

Christian (15:58.616)
Wow, I’ve never heard of breaking down like that, Tommy. mean, Monopoly, right? I mean, playing that game. that definitely really gives me a perspective, right, on showing who’s committed, right? And it can just do something basic as playing Monopoly, right? So, very cool, man.

Tommy Dee (16:17.918)
Yeah. And again, like getting people together to learn these things where actually I’m starting a mastermind. I don’t don’t I don’t know if I can put that out there yet, but we’ve got a mastermind called Boardwalk Mastermind. lot of people think of Boardwalk like like I just mentioned, Monopoly. So, you know, that’s the most coveted piece on the board. Right. Like without Boardwalk, you basically can’t win the game. And so a little bit of the name is

Christian (16:24.556)
No, put it out. Yeah, let’s talk about it.

Christian (16:36.718)
Sure.

Tommy Dee (16:47.658)
credited to that, but the name is mostly credited to the fact that a boardwalk is is is a elevated elevated path to a greater destination. And it’s built by experts for the entire, you know, for the entire world to use. And so the boardwalk mastermind is a mastermind where experts in our fields come together and we come up with not just like real estate deals.

Christian (16:57.006)
I love it.

Tommy Dee (17:15.933)
but like product development, software development, major big investment style stuff that like the big, big, big products out there, Google and Amazon are a good example. But all of those, like all of those big businesses started in a think tank with experts.

And so I want the Boardwalk Mastermind to become a think tank for experts, but then also a place for those experts to have the vulnerability to gain understanding of how they can be better at being the experts they are. You know, and the premise behind that, that entire organization is the, is they’ll coming together and working together. So one of the things that we do is we start out our, our, we have two meetings a year.

And what we do is we start out the meeting each year, the beginning of the first meeting of the year by picking our leader, our grand poobah, by doing basically competition style monopoly playing where you’re playing with real money and the jackpot’s $30,000 at the end. 20 guys, we sit down, we play 20 guys against each other. You can even partner up. Like if you know somebody’s better at it than you.

Christian (18:28.91)
No kidding.

Christian (18:39.021)
Yeah.

Tommy Dee (18:42.202)
give them all your money and sit behind them and play with them. You know, the idea is to deal make and to negotiate and to really get into learning who each other are in a fun and safe environment while competing and energizing our brain with the hormones produced during success. A lot of people, they technically learn better when they go through what’s called cortisol dump.

Christian (19:09.388)
Yeah.

Tommy Dee (19:10.041)
You get, you know, you make a mistake and you learn like touch on my stove. Ouchy. Your body creates a hormone called cortisol that makes you remember. Right. Our body doesn’t have that necessarily for anything successful except for serotonin. So really, the only way to learn from winning is to experience the serotonin in a way that that it makes it stick. And so that’s why it’s so hard to learn from winning is because

Christian (19:11.895)
Uh-huh.

Right. Uh-huh.

Christian (19:34.392)
Mm-hmm.

Tommy Dee (19:38.5)
It creates that that endorphin rush that makes us forget what we did to get there, you know. So. Yep.

Christian (19:40.438)
Yeah, exactly. Y’all man, that’s so true. Tommy, that’s awesome, man. So let’s talk about, you know, two, you you’re a member of seven corporations as you and I were discussing before too, and three real estate firms. How do you leverage corporate structures in that sense?

Christian (20:00.578)
Contract.

Tommy Dee (20:01.572)
Contracts. Everything’s based on relationships in business. so my real estate firms, like one of them, we’re starting a fourth one. It’s going to be an equity fund that’s focused on doing land entitlements. And so right now we have an abundance of land that is available, but it’s not ready for development.

Christian (20:04.846)
Mm-hmm.

Tommy Dee (20:28.035)
And so we’re going to raise $100 million to buy over 1,000 acres of land and do the work to make it ready for development. And what we’re doing is we’re creating the path of progress. And so how I’m able to do that is leveraging my construction company, my surveying company, my excavation company, and my civil engineering company. OK? And so all four of those now provide me a contract that I put into my PPM for my land.

a landholding company that’s going to raise $100 million. And so because I’ve already got all the documentation, contracts and negotiations are done, investors can now look at hard, solid numbers to decide, is this a good deal or not?

Christian (21:09.016)
Man, that is incredible. So how many companies do you have,

Tommy Dee (21:16.609)
Currently on the books, probably 35.

Christian (21:18.254)
Man, that’s incredible.

Tommy Dee (21:23.051)
So, but I manage and run, I manage and run about 11 of them, directly seven of them, but I have managers, I have partners. Like I said, I have over 30 partners that I do business with. A couple of my businesses are, actually, I’ve started companies and then hired a CEO, CFO, CEO, and I stepped down to just director. And it’s because it worked out better than.

Christian (21:24.334)
Mm-hmm.

Christian (21:31.054)
Mm-hmm.

Christian (21:44.428)
Wow. So.

You have so many businesses, right? So I’m curious, I mean, what type of systems and operations do you put in place to be able to manage that many businesses? Obviously teams are important, right? It’s the lifeline of your business, right?

Tommy Dee (22:03.346)
totally. You got to remember, when I was a registered nurse, I would work in busy hospitals. And one of the things that I felt I was really good at was prioritization and delegation. So that is key to survival in the health care industry. Prioritization and delegation in the emergency room is the difference between life and death. You ever heard about a person dying out in the waiting room? I can tell you right now.

Christian (22:12.408)
Yeah.

Christian (22:26.627)
Yes.

Tommy Dee (22:31.211)
that they didn’t have any prioritization and delegation in that ER if people are dying in the waiting room. You know what I mean? So in running companies, I run a company much like I ran my ERs in that every one of my companies is like a patient. Every one of my managers or partners is another nurse or another doctor, you know? And so the way I handle my business is now versus when I did before I got into nursing.

Christian (22:35.606)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I’m following you

Tommy Dee (23:01.152)
is through how I deal with each individual business on its own merit, on its own batch. And then I also, I manage them just like I did back then. I’ve incorporated AI a lot into my business. As a matter of fact, I’ve been able to create three virtual employees that

that have been able to free up actual human beings to go do stuff that’s way more important. And I’ve been able to create a program in AI that has given back to me somewhere between 60 and 80 hours a week.

Christian (23:47.118)
16, 80 hours a week. How is that possible? How did you learn about that?

Tommy Dee (23:57.055)
I’ve been using AI for about three years, you know, and you got to remember, I don’t look like your average computer nerd, but I can build websites better than some of the website people out there selling them for 10 grand. So. Yeah, right. Like, you know, when I walked in the room, most of the time people were worried was either janitor or the doctor. But when I told them I was a nurse, they were like, huh? You know, so I’m used to that. I’m used to it.

Christian (23:57.528)
Yeah.

Christian (24:05.57)
Looks all deceiving,

Christian (24:17.454)
huh, yep. That’s the way to be though, right Tommy? That’s the way to be. You know, I’m curious too. mean, again, you just, you’ve built so many processes, operations, AI, you you’ve built so many teams within your companies. I’m interested in knowing what do you look for when you’re hiring somebody? What can people look for when they’re trying to make a hiring vetting decision on people, right? Because.

Tommy Dee (24:25.536)
Right.

Tommy Dee (24:42.719)
The last thing I do is hire people. I don’t hire people anymore. I’ll honest with you, I’ve gotten to a point that if you’re not my partner, we’re not working together. I want you to have skin in the game. If you’re getting a paycheck out of one of my companies, it’s because you’re in the company now. I don’t, you know, if I go and do a job, I’ll get bids from people, but they get paid piecemeal. I never pay anybody by the hour anymore. I used to pay people by the hour.

Christian (24:43.694)
Mmm.

Christian (24:49.272)
That’s it.

Christian (24:55.042)
Got it. Got it, got it.

Tommy Dee (25:11.133)
way back in the day and when I had my roofing company in my early 20s, it’s where I learned it. Everybody I paid by the piece provided me with a better product and better service than anything ever before. When they knew they were making a certain dollar amount for the day, they had a choice. Do a good job and not have to come back tomorrow or hurry up and get it done and then have to wait for my paycheck because I have to go back and do it again and again and again and again. So I hold people accountable.

Christian (25:20.184)
Really.

Tommy Dee (25:40.528)
If you didn’t do your job, you’re not going to pay check. If I got to get somebody else to come in and do what you didn’t do right, you’re not going to get paid. Period. So I no longer take people on the vetting process for that is really simple. Tell me what you’ve done before and tell me what you can do now. And if you don’t speak the right language, it’s just like, listen, are you going to buy like tacos from somebody who can’t speak Mexican? No, no. You know, that’s the last place you’re going to buy a taco.

Christian (25:43.106)
Right. Right.

Christian (25:51.79)
Mm.

Christian (26:01.262)
No. No.

Because you know they’re not authentic, Right? Yeah.

Tommy Dee (26:11.132)
Right. Like it’s not going to happen. I used to have a saying that I could tell what kind of roofer you were based on how you climb the ladder. So plain and simple. That’s kind of what you do when you’re in business and you like let’s say you’re an absentee business owner and you need to find managers that can run your business. The last thing you want to do is hire the last thing you want them to be as an employee. You want them to be a partner, even if you’re paying them by the hour.

Christian (26:16.195)
Mmm.

Tommy Dee (26:39.421)
You have to make them feel like they own something. When I worked in hospitals and I worked in quite a few because I was was bouncing from hospital to hospital. get them trained up, go to the next place. And so as a trainer in in in doing electronic medical records, I would have to sit through orientation for every hospital I worked at. So out of 40 orientations, the number one thing they all said was that every employee that they had

They expected what’s called stewardship, ownership, right? A steward on a boat is the person that goes down with the boat even after it sinks. So like they’re there to be the steward. If you’ve ever been on a cruise, that’s what a steward does. They’re like, how can we serve you? How can we service you? This is our boat. You’re our guest. We’re here to help, blah, blah, blah. I think that’s probably, to answer your question, one of the biggest things that you have to put into an employee is stewardship.

Christian (27:15.886)
Mm-hmm.

Christian (27:20.726)
Yep, exactly.

Christian (27:26.21)
Over Deliver.

Christian (27:36.226)
Wow, right. So you want them to buy in a vision even bigger than yours sometimes, right? They have to believe in it, right? And I think that’s so important because I a hundred percent agree with you, right? If you buy someone by the hour, you’re now telling them that’s their worth and that’s all their worth, right? And I just think that it can cause a lot more problems long-term. So that’s a really interesting approach that you have, Tommy. I appreciate you sharing that, man. Tommy, I wish we had honestly another hour and a half though to talk.

because I know we could do it. But unfortunately, we are running out of time. So I want to give it back to you now just to let people know, you know, where can they find you? Right? How can people work with you? And I’ll let you take it from there.

Christian (28:25.25)
No worries, we’ll edit that out. No worries.

Tommy Dee (28:31.221)
There you go. So people can find me. If we go if you go on social media, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, I think I’ve got an ex account. any anything like that, it’s blue collar million dollar. Blue collar million dollar. I wrote two books recently.

Tommy Dee (29:04.878)
Alright, try that again. I wrote two books recently. One of them is called the Blue Color Revolution. The Blue Color Revolution is a guide to AI for blue collar workers, people in the trade, HVAC, plumbing, electricians, framers, roofers. Like I give about five or six examples of how to use AI to make their lives easier.

So check that out on Amazon. The other one is called Triage. Triage Code Blew Your Business. Triage Code Blew Your Business is a crisis prevention and crisis management book. I wrote it because after Covid, I started the company right after Covid. And the reason why I was able to accelerate was because I had a lot of businesses around me, support businesses going out of business.

And I started understanding why they were going out of business was because they had no crisis management plan. And in the emergency room, we have an algorithm. We call it triage. You come in, we determine how severe you are, and then we move you into the system. And so that’s how we handle an overflow of people coming in the front door. We’re able to use critical thinking skills to sort through life and death situations.

And in the business world, life and death is the life and death of your business. And so if you don’t know how to take your company’s vital signs, if you don’t have a crisis management team, if you don’t have some tools on how to even assess your crisis, then you’re going to go out of business. So I wrote the triage, Code Blue Your Business, and that was released on my birthday this year when I turned 50. So those are the places you can check me out.

Christian (30:44.845)
Yeah.

Tommy Dee (31:00.726)
I’ve got on my TikTok, that’s where most of the stuff happens. I built houses on there. If you go way, way back into my TikTok account, you can actually go on there and watch when we built our first million dollar home. So you can book an appointment with me on my Stan store. Links are on all my bios for my Stan store. So if you get on my Stan store, you can join a podcast or you can join a webinar there. have a

a five week course on there and then I also do one on one mentoring.

Christian (31:31.672)
Wow, you heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen. Tommy, thank you for your time, my friend. I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation. I know the audience is going to gain nothing but value in this as well. So thank you again, Tommy. I really appreciate it. Awesome. Awesome. Well, take care, everybody. And as always, we will see you on the next episode.

Tommy Dee (31:47.735)
Hey Christian, I appreciate it.