Real Estate Investing Mistakes: Rory Boone on Why Cheap Rentals Can Cost You Big

Rory Boone (00:00)
I’ll tell you a story of an investor. came to mind as soon as you said that, and I hope he’s okay. I’m not going tell his full name. His name is Kevin though, but he actually lives, I think he still lives in Washington. He was an investor in Washington and he went and bought a house back in Illinois and it’s a city called Harvey. And Harvey is like the armpits of the suburbs of Chicago. It’s like not where you want to

Oh, it has some, it has some, some, I would never buy a Harvey. I’m just keeping it 100. But he bought a house for like five grand and he had told me, and it was just random conversation. He was like, oh, I just got this property in Harvey for five grand. I was like, do you know what you just bought?

Cody Crabb (00:34)
cheese.

Hello and welcome back to the Real Estate Pros podcast by Investor Fuel. I’m your host Cody Crabb and today I’ve got Rory Boone, owner and operator of Boone Properties. Rory’s been investing since 2009 with rentals in Seattle and Chicagoland and a bigger picture strategy of using active income from deals to build long-term cash flow and time freedom for his family. I’m excited to talk about that a little bit. As you can tell from his best dad ever shirt, he’s all in on that. Love that.

⁓ Thanks so much for joining us today. This is gonna be good one.

Rory Boone (02:46)
Appreciate it, Cody. Thank you for having me.

Cody Crabb (02:48)
Of course.

So take us back to 2009. You told me you bought your first property right out of college. So I’d love to hear a little bit more about that, how you got into the industry and kind of what brings you here today.

Rory Boone (03:01)
Absolutely. Yes. So my first property I bought, was a townhome right down where I went to college at. actually purchased that property. It was back when, I don’t know if you remember back then, if you’re in the real estate field, Obama essentially they were giving out $8,000 to buy a house and the way it worked is, you you got it on your property, on your taxes. So I bought that property with the…

girlfriend at the time and I didn’t have a job at all. I mean, I was working, but I was part time. didn’t, you know, was just college student, just graduating. So we actually used her income. I just put all the hustle in. I found all the down payment assistance program and just put all the information found the property. So we bought that back in 2009 and we rented out rooms to some of the same friends or college students. Cause usually if you’re in college, you know, sometimes you don’t move out of the town right away once you graduate. I graduated in 2009.

I graduated in, I think May, we bought the property in April. So that was my first, that was my introduction to it. And I wasn’t even, I wasn’t running all the numbers and knowing all that. I just wanted $8,000. So we got that $8,000 and we split it. And I held that runoff for almost, I think I sold it maybe three years ago. it’s, was my introduction to real estate as a,

being a landlord rather than a tenant. And I actually ended up hiring a property manager that I used to rent from when I was in college. So it was a cool, cool experience. Yeah, it was.

Cody Crabb (04:22)
That must have a little satisfying too. like hello. Remember

me? Yes, I’m gonna yeah, that’s that’s pretty cool. So I’d love to hear a little bit more about your your background. You mentioned ⁓ your dad was kind of one of the reasons you wanted to get into real estate, but not because he was in real estate because he wasn’t in real estate, right?

Rory Boone (05:30)
No, exactly. No, he wasn’t in real

estate at all. My pops drove cab for a living. He was a, I guess you call it a single dad. That’s how he raised me by himself. He did move my grandmother in with us. I mean, at some point when I was younger, but he used to drive cab and you if you know anyone that drove cab, they had medallions and when Uber came out, those things just tank. So he didn’t really have a pension or 401k to ever come with it as a cab driver. You kind of…

Cody Crabb (05:55)
Yeah.

Rory Boone (05:56)
eat what you kill, so to speak, in terms of you running and cash work. Yeah, definitely.

Cody Crabb (05:57)
Yeah. Well, you’re you’re technically self-employed, right? Like it’s actually like a tier 1099. Yeah.

Rory Boone (06:02)
He’s 110 % self-employed. Yeah, so he’s self-employed. But the one of the biggest things I picked up from that is just his work ethic to go out and you got to keep working and grinding. And he had the ability to kind of make his own schedule. So he was able to come home and be able to, you know, go to my games, catch me having girls in the house when I’m supposed to. All those kind of things that you do as a teenager.

Cody Crabb (06:25)
For a teenager that must be really frustrating. You can name your own schedule. How am I supposed to know when he’s gonna get home? Yeah, I don’t know. Let’s go to your house. Yeah.

Rory Boone (06:26)
But he was able to be

Yeah, 1000%, 1000%. And we had dogs too. yeah,

one time he let the dogs in on me and I was supposed to have girls in the closet. It was funny, it was funny. But he was able to be available and be an active dad and not just be a father, it’s just paying the bills. So that was really important to me. And me wanting to give back as just a appreciative son is, I was making kind of decent money.

Cody Crabb (06:43)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Rory Boone (06:59)
working for the government for, until about 2019, when I went full time in real estate. But I knew that, hey, I want to be able to take care of him once, you know, once he’s ready to retire and do, you know, and he’s a dad, dad. So he doesn’t, doesn’t really like to ask for help or anything like that. But I wanted to be in a position where, hey pops, hey, you good. So I was able to buy him a house and everything like that. So that was, that was one of my bigger motivators before I had kids and stuff like that. So just jumping on, jumping real estate and figure this thing out.

Cody Crabb (07:18)
Wow.

Yeah,

for sure. like you said, think having an example of someone that can kind of be there, especially when it was so important. I mean, as a single dad, I can imagine especially how meaningful that was to make sure that there was still somebody there and someone present and able to go to the school award ceremonies and the stuff like that. So it’s cool that that kind of inspired you that way. then kind of how let’s let’s fast forward today to today.

today. What does your business look like now?

Rory Boone (07:57)
So now it’s more of a building systems out to take my business to the next level. So I mean, I own rental properties. I always say, you know, Seattle pays me, Chicago raised me, so I’m from Chicago area. So I own rentals there and I own a rental here as well. So I’m managing both of my properties, but I’m looking to buy multi-unit with.

Obviously, I’m sure you watched the news and things that interest rates are on the multifamily is set to, you know, they have loans that are set to be called due. So I’m looking to buy bigger multifamily units. I’m doing flipping here to kind of generate revenue that I then buy more rental properties. So I’m setting up my systems. I’ve self-managed my properties since I’ve purchased them, other than my first property that I bought down in where I went to college at Illinois State. From there, I’ve been self-managing them all.

So at this point, I’m kind of building out my systems, using AI, things like that, to be able to take on more properties on a larger scale. So I’ve been really working inside of my business to build out those systems, as well as continue to do fix and flips and things like that to keep the revenue coming in.

Cody Crabb (09:08)
Yeah, so how have you managed, it kind sounds like you are, it kind of sounds like you are kind of taking advantage of the fact that the market is maybe not the best right now to kind of use that as a pivot. Am I kind of reading that right?

Rory Boone (09:21)
Absolutely, absolutely. I understand like the blood in the water a little bit as they like to say, So it’s, it takes typically when a market shifts, it takes a little bit of time for the actual sellers to realize that the market is not what it is. So that’s like, I usually take that time. I’m still marketing, but I’m using that time like, okay, let me focus on getting my systems downed in and ready to go. So once the…

it clicks, then they’re like, ⁓ okay, yeah, this isn’t multi-offers, this isn’t what it is. You have to be more accommodating to the buyer. There’s going to be more opportunities there. And with that being said, there’s also capital that’s sitting on the sidelines. That’s like one to buy because they’re afraid or not able to find the right deals. So I’m able to kind of use my own capital and kind of bring in friends and families to buy more properties, to help them build well for their family as well as mine.

Cody Crabb (10:10)
I want to go back to your awesome line. She Seattle pays me Chicago raised me. That’s that is awesome It’s still like a t-shirt or something. That’s that’s awesome or like Jay-Z lyrics. Maybe like kind of some I don’t know. No, he’s in New York. Yeah No, it’s something like that. Anyway, the point is it’s awesome. It’s awesome but but I want to go back to that because it’s you you invest in two separate markets and I’d love to kind of hear about

Rory Boone (10:22)
No, no, no, no. I appreciate it.

Yes.

Cody Crabb (10:34)
what’s been your experience there? mean, I’m assuming that you kind of moved to Seattle from Chicago and kind of knew somewhat both markets. I what has that been like? They’re very different locations. So I’d love to know kind of what insights you’ve got from that.

Rory Boone (10:46)
They are for sure. I…

No, definitely, definitely. They’re two completely different markets. I guess Chicago has come up a little bit because they’re starting to see new construction and stuff there, but I always say the cashflow is best in the Midwest. So rentals and cashflow like that was kind of where I focused on buying my cashflow properties. And then my appreciation, I look…

for that to be built here. So properties don’t appreciate though, I mean, I think my first, my four unit that I bought, you know, right outside of Chicago with this 2011, I think about it for 16 grand, it’s like 300,000 worth now. So that did appreciate, but like in terms of, you know, properties being worth a million dollars, things of that nature, that is mostly in Seattle. So I bought rentals here when the, where there were lower interest rates and I’m

buying here where the land value is more valuable than the actual property itself. So we’ve gone through a change in the codes here where single family, can now build duplexes, triplexes, additional houses on the lots. So the land value is more valuable. So you can kind of make your money by building something because the cost to build is lower than what the cost to sell is, if that makes sense. So that is that.

Cody Crabb (12:31)
That makes a of sense, yeah.

Rory Boone (12:32)
And then the neighborhoods are different. Like Chicago, it’s street by street basis. you can go, know, most times, you know, people are laughing when a lot of times people say, you know, you do a half a mile radius and you look at comparables. You can throw all that out the window. That’s not how it works. You literally, it’s a block by block. There are certain pockets that are better than others, but you literally have to know the streets because one block over it can be everything boarded up.

Cody Crabb (12:36)
Yeah.

Rory Boone (12:55)
And the next block over there’s an alderman that’s still on that street or something of that nature. And the values are just better. So you got to be mindful of the neighborhoods and just be, I was more informed in Chicago because I was born and raised there. Seattle, I had to literally drive all the different streets. I literally drove, it’s called driving for dollars. I drove every single block in the neighborhood that I wanted to buy. And that’s how I got familiar with the neighborhood. Also my missus, she’s from here, so that helped as well.

Cody Crabb (13:19)
Hmm. that’s definitely

helpful. Yeah. Having anybody like local. Yeah. You say, I’m thinking of getting a deal here and she’s like, don’t do that. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. So what is it that for someone listening, like

Rory Boone (13:27)
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Cody Crabb (13:33)
I’m interested in this zoning change. So just as an example, I’m from Salt Lake City. They’ve recently made some changes in the ADU laws where it’s kind of similar thing where you can build and rent out ADUs on the property of a single family house. And obviously that could bring a lot of value to someone. But I’m curious, how do they spot when changes like this happen before kind of everybody catches on and does the same thing? If that’s a thing that starts to happen, zoning

changes or law changes? mean how can people keep themselves aware of that kind of stuff before it’s too late?

Rory Boone (14:06)
That’s a good question. you gotta be listening to the, it takes it back to kind of the college days. You gotta be reading the laws and bills that are getting passed. And sometimes they’re not fully implemented yet, but they have like revisions or like final versions. And then I was hopping on those, they were having zoom calls where you can get a public opinion on it. I would get on those calls and talk to the people that was in,

that was responsible for those changes coming and just ask questions. So that’s kind of how I stayed in a know-how. then you, that’s the same thing as ADUs and DADUs is what the essentially changes. But there, when there’s something like that changes across the board for the entire state, there are certain areas that are already aware, but then there’s other pockets that haven’t necessarily caught on yet, but you can jump in and find opportunities before they start pricing it into their asking price, if that makes sense.

Cody Crabb (14:39)
Hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Rory Boone (15:03)
So it’s just kind of looking where the market’s at and then looking at other pockets that has the potential to grow faster. in terms of, know, and understanding the value of like, because a lot of times you, a lot of people rush into that and they find out, you know, like, you know, they find out like a flag lot, which is a house right behind another house. They learn that, this doesn’t sell for as much as I thought it was, and it’s going to affect value and the existing house, if you’re keeping it there, you know, that loses value. So those things, you got to kind of pay attention to the market.

to be informed, which requires a lot of research and a lot of kind of doing the legwork to understand what’s going on. And you can use AI to help you as well, which is, I mean, can import it into different softwares and help it kind of help you understand what the data saying.

Cody Crabb (15:45)
Yeah,

that’s I would say that’s probably the number one good use of AI right now is to kind of parse a lot of data and kind of make sense of it. So I think that I mean, with all the talk of like, you know, is AI good or is AI bad? That’s probably right now the thing that it does the very best, better than humans is like look at a lot of stuff and kind of simplify it down to a level that is readable and understandable. So especially something like legal and laws and stuff where it’s not necessarily the easiest to understand, even if you’re even if

even

if you do know what you’re talking about, that’s a lot. So yeah, that’s great. So I’d be curious to know also, going back to another one of your lines, I’m starting to notice pattern here. You said, wait, what did you say? Seattle pays me, Chicago raised me, and then you said, what was the?

Rory Boone (16:29)
Cashflow

is best in the Midwest, is that what you’re talking about? Yeah, okay, yeah. I do listen to a lot of rap music, that might, it definitely influenced Jay-Z, Hov, all of that, yeah.

Cody Crabb (16:29)
Best in the Midwest. Yeah, there’s a rap song in there somewhere, so keep going with those. ⁓ Best in the Midwest. That’s definitely, that’s definitely helping. That’s

definitely helping. ⁓ So I’d be curious to know like people that are chasing that, they hear about, you know, some guy, I moved to the Midwest and I bought a house for.

$12,000 and I get amazing cash flow from it and people hear that and they their eyes turn into dollar signs and they just forget everything they knew and they do like I’m gonna go do that. What is what what is the biggest mistake?

of that. would love to, because this is one of those things where I hear people say, yeah, go buy a ⁓ giant mansion in the middle of nowhere and then you could live in a huge mansion. I’d love to kind of get some perspective on that so that people that hear that with that mindset are maybe like, hmm.

Rory Boone (17:14)
Mm-hmm.

Yes. Absolutely.

I’ll tell you a story of an investor. came to mind as soon as you said that, and I hope he’s okay. I’m not going tell his full name. His name is Kevin though, but he actually lives, I think he still lives in Washington. He was an investor in Washington and he went and bought a house back in Illinois and it’s a city called Harvey. And Harvey is like the armpits of the suburbs of Chicago. It’s like not where you want to

Oh, it has some, it has some, some, I would never buy a Harvey. I’m just keeping it 100. But he bought a house for like five grand and he had told me, and it was just random conversation. He was like, oh, I just got this property in Harvey for five grand. I was like, do you know what you just bought?

Cody Crabb (18:37)
cheese.

Rory Boone (18:45)
You’re not gonna, and he’s like, it’s fine. He had the most headaches he can possibly have. And the biggest problem with that is when you’re buying in places, you gotta understand the market and even if it’s super cheap, if…

He bought, what’s the first of all Harvey, it maybe it’s changed a little bit, but it has a history of corruption in terms of politics and the police. So I think one, in one point, one of the mayors in Harvey was like on recording, and it’s an old mayor, he’s not a mayor anymore. But he was on recording like saying, like, bring me back my dope. Bring me back on recording. This is real true story.

Cody Crabb (19:02)
Mmm.

So that’s not exactly the, yeah.

And all this is running through

your head as you’re hearing where he bought.

Rory Boone (19:23)
Yes, all of it, because

I’m born and raised right out, see what mean? All in that area. So he told me where he bought it. I’m like, you’re you’re in, finna, you just signed up for a PhD in landlord and real estate, but you don’t even know it. And I told him, I’m like, you may not wanna, that’s a rough, you’re so rough. He’s like, I have five, man. He was like, I called the police, no one comes.

Cody Crabb (19:27)
Yeah.

Rory Boone (19:45)
was like, this ain’t Seattle, bro. This ain’t, you just bought in the trenches and you didn’t realize what it is. But at the same token, so you got to understand the neighborhoods and understand where you’re marketing. You don’t go buy something because it’s cheap.

Cody Crabb (19:52)
That’s crazy, yeah.

Well, hold on, you can’t just leave it there. Is that

all you know about that story? Like, where does that story end? Did you hear anything more after that?

Rory Boone (20:03)
He got rid of it finally. He’d end up getting rid of it, but it cost him a lot of money to get out of it. But he literally, was, was, he, was, I’m sure he got a lot of lessons on where to buy and where not to buy, buying that property. ⁓

Cody Crabb (20:05)
⁓ my god.

Yeah, yeah, the number one lesson I always hear

is know your market. Like don’t just buy because there’s a deal somewhere. So if anything, that just is a perfect example of that. Like, hey, it’s near Chicago. Sounds kind of on paper maybe a little good, but someone that lived there would ask you, hey, what do you think of Harvey? You would have been like, do not buy that house. Yeah.

Rory Boone (20:27)
Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

People think they hear cheap and they automatically assume, this is, I gotta make money on it. cheap. And I mean, I grew up in a neighborhood in or pay centers that even to this day, the market is super hot. And I seen a property listed and it’s still, I still wouldn’t touch it. And then I still wouldn’t buy it in a park. And this one interest rates was like two and a half percent. I still wouldn’t touch anything in that area. Cause it’s, you can make money in the hood, but it’s just, comes with.

It comes with variables that if you’re not willing to put up with that and deal with that, or if you’re not built for it, that’s not for you. So a lot of times people see cheap and they just assume, I can go buy there. You got to understand what you’re getting yourself into.

Cody Crabb (21:15)
So I’d be curious, so what kind of stuff do you look for then when you’re looking?

Rory Boone (21:19)
For me, for what depends on where if I’m looking for rental properties, I’m looking for cashflow, but I’ve like, for instance, I went to Tennessee. I’m in a process of trying to buy two houses on one lot in Tennessee area. It was close to my sister. And I went and physically seen the market. I’ve seen what the neighborhoods is. I did a drive around to get a better feel for like, okay.

don’t buy on this part of town. If I was gonna buy something for cashflow and I’m looking at kind of areas where the, I think the big thing that people are not paying attention to that’s gonna cost a lot. Insurance is going up significantly. If you own rental properties, you notice that and property taxes are going up significantly in a lot of different states. those things that even if your property is paid off free and clear, it’s gonna be holding costs. So you really, so you gotta keep those things in mind. So I’m looking at places where the…

The property taxes and the insurance is not crazy and the laws are landlord friendly. When I see those things, if I’m buying for cashflow, now, when I see those things, now I’m looking for job growth and all those other things that people typically look for. That is what I’m focusing on, but I’m still going to check out that market to get a vibe of.

Cody Crabb (22:14)
you

Rory Boone (22:27)
Okay, where are the pockets or at least know someone in the market? I mean, if you can’t go look, go physically see it, know some like have boots on the ground that can can steer you in the right direction and they don’t have a financial gain from it. Sometimes people go with someone that’s like, they get paid to tell you this. Well, it may not, it may not be the best information if that makes sense.

Cody Crabb (22:40)
Yeah, yeah.

You’re never gonna believe this,

but my insurance guy said that he can get the cheapest price. Like he can get the very best price.

Rory Boone (22:54)
Yeah.

Cody Crabb (22:56)
Yeah,

it’s like that. Yeah. I was going to say I noticed a pattern because you bought in Seattle where you said you had someone that you knew there. Then you said you’re looking at Tennessee where you said your sister is close there. That’s definitely wise, think, especially like you said, to not have a financial stake in it. To kind of just get a vibe. Does this seem like a good area to you? What have you heard about this place? That you can get a lot of information from someone that’s

there. They’re not even in real estate but they just kind of know the area. So just a few more questions as we’re kind of winding down here.

Rory Boone (23:28)
Yeah, yeah.

Cody Crabb (23:35)
I’d be curious to know, you said that driving for dollars is super, super important. I’d love to know kind of what are the red and green flags you see? So like if, let’s say you have a neighborhood you’re looking at, you’re thinking about it, you’re like, okay, I’m gonna go drive this neighborhood. What are some things that you might see that are like, okay, that’s good, that’s a good sign? And what are some things that you could see that are like, I might do a quick little reverse out of this subdivision right now and never come back.

Rory Boone (23:58)
Yeah, get well, the first thing I see if I see crackheads all over the place, I’m probably not wanting to buy there. I’m driving it and I’m seeing those kind of things. look. But it’s also I mean, my my level of of risk and what I want to deal with, if I have to conceal and carry to go pick up rent, I don’t want to buy there. That is how my that’s how I set my threshold. So.

Cody Crabb (24:03)
Like we’ll try another neighborhood here. Yeah. Yeah

That’s a pretty low threshold to be honest.

Rory Boone (24:24)
So that is how, if I got to conceal and carry to pick up my rent or go check on my properties, I don’t want to buy in that area. So I’m driving for dollars. I’m looking for opportunities. I’m driving neighborhoods. I’m looking for like, is there boarded up houses? If I’m buying a rental property, like I was just looking at one earlier this last week, last week I went and looked at, and if I’m buying as a rental, I’m also looking at the neighbors right next door. Are they hoarders? Do they have a lot of junk? it’s going to affect the clients that I…

Cody Crabb (24:45)
Mmm.

Rory Boone (24:51)
kind of tenants I can get. And there’s also going to be like roading issues and stuff like that. I’m going to get more calls, it’s to be more costs to me. And then, you know, I can’t expect to ask for premium and they’re like, dude, they got Sanford and Son right next door. How are you going to ask for that kind of money? that make sense? So I’m kind of looking for those kinds of things if I’m buying for rentals. If I’m buying for like cashflow or development, I mean, for like flips or development, I’m kind of looking at, you know, I’m trying to looking for like smaller houses and bigger lots. You know, sometimes I’m looking for like, you know,

Cody Crabb (24:54)
Yeah.

You

Yeah.

Mmm.

Rory Boone (25:19)
house to maybe have an alley off the back where I can, they’re probably doing a dad who play like you’re doing in Utah, where you can build another house off the back and kind of, ⁓ create, you know, equity that way where I could sell off one and keep one and maybe create cashflow or create a big, big chunk of money.

Cody Crabb (25:33)
like irregular lots where

the houses may be placed weird, stuff like that, you mean?

Rory Boone (25:37)
Yeah, yeah, correct. Like maybe it’s further up on the lots, it’s further in the front or like for here, certain areas you can go up to like 1200 square feet, like the biggest you can build a dadu and some of them is like a thousand square feet. So in some of those, some areas I might look for a house that’s less than that square footage, but further than a lot, because I can convert that one to the dadu and then build a bigger house on the back. Does that make sense?

Cody Crabb (26:00)
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That’s actually pretty clever because that way you kind of get all the benefits a little at a time instead of having to do everything all at once like that.

Rory Boone (26:08)
Yeah, and then it’s a smaller house you’re buying. So they’re more likely to be more reasonable on their asking price because it’s a 900 square foot house or a thousand square foot house. It has a little bit bigger lot. then I pay, I don’t have to beat them down completely on a price. Obviously you want to get a great price on it, but now I can build a bigger, I can convert that house and call that the dadu or ADU. And I can build a single family behind it.

and make it that way. And if it’s on a corner, even better, since now it has its own even access. So doesn’t even feel like it’s a behind the house. So that’s kind of what I’m looking at when I’m driving for dollars for those kind of play.

Cody Crabb (26:43)
Awesome. I think this has been a really great episode in just terms of little, I never thought of that. Like you’ve had so many little ones where I’m like, that’s really smart. So thanks so much for sharing all this. Just to kind of close this out, know, let’s say someone is in the Seattle market or the Chicagoland market, or maybe even kind of this, you said in Tennessee, ⁓ if they’re kind of looking to get into this stuff and they kind of want to, they like your vibe, they want to work with you, who should reach out to you and kind of how can they do that?

Rory Boone (26:52)
Sure.

Yeah, I you can find me, Be Wealthy with Rory on Instagram, if you’re wanting to work with me or if you’re like, I mean, I put out resources and stuff for people that you don’t have to, you don’t need me. I mean, you can, I’m happy to work with people and partner with them, but I try to put out stuff that can be helpful. So I made a book, contractor playbook, where you can go find, a lot of times people always. What? ⁓ okay. All right, man. Do that. there you go.

Cody Crabb (27:28)
you gotta do the podcast thing and hold it right up to the camera. We gotta see it. We gotta see it. Yeah, there you go.

Rory Boone (27:37)
So I published this book last month and it was really for people, people always, every time like I’ll do events, like when I’m doing my flips and stuff like that, I’ll host like in live tours of my properties and I’ll share just, hey, this is what I’m learning. This is what went wrong. This is just the real, like not all the fluff, like, hey, this is what I thought the cost was gonna be. This is what it is. And the question that all these people ask, it’s like, where do you find your contractors? How do you get your contractors? did it, I mean, everyone’s always asking that. And I’m like, okay, well, I’ll just, it’s in the book.

Cody Crabb (27:51)
Hmm, I love that, yeah.

Rory Boone (28:05)
This is how I find my contractors, how I hire them, this is the whole process. So I did that because it was like, all right, well, this is one piece of the puzzle. You got to find a good deal, if you put the, it’s kind of like, if you find the right opportunity, but you don’t have the right team, it’s still not going to work. You know what mean? so this is, so that’s finding a deal. You got to also find a team. So I did that as to, hey, this is how I, this is how I find my contractors. So, you know, cause everyone’s, that seems like a big thing.

Cody Crabb (28:21)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rory Boone (28:33)
That people’s already exing that so that’s that’s the best way to if you want to reach out to me You can reach out you can find me this is on Amazon Just search the contract to playbook or if you want to reach out to me I’m on I’m on Facebook be well through it Rory Rory boom and an Instagram and tick tock as well So just feel free to inbox me. I’m a pretty open guy

Cody Crabb (28:51)
Awesome.

Thanks so much. Yeah, that seems like it’s going to be super valuable. We get that question a lot too about about contractors because it’s just like, how do I find someone that I can trust? So it’s great that you’ve kind of got this this resource out there. Thanks so much for hopping on today. This has been really great. And thank you, listeners, for hopping on as well. If you got something out of today’s today’s lesson, today’s episode, it was kind of a lesson. Go ahead and give us a like, follow, subscribe, all the things so you don’t miss another awesome conversation like this one. It has been a pleasure. Thank you so much for chatting with us today.

Yeah,

Rory Boone (29:22)
Sure, thank you. Thanks for having me.