He Made $1.8 Million Investing in Distressed Detroit Properties

Eric Santos (00:00)
So, you know, if if you buy, I buy four homes, I make them rentals, four rentals. And then my fifth one, I buy it to flip, And that one I buy it, I put nicer finishes in there, Farmhouse sinks, brand new cabinets, Beautiful ones in there, beautiful paint structures, LVP down on the floors, You know, I make sure that everything’s taken care of, you know, put nice appliances in there. And those are the ones that I, you know, I ask for a little bit more money. But when when it sells, you got cash in your hand. You know you’re doing something because now you got cash in your bank.

Issa Hanna (01:59)
Welcome back to another episode of the Real Estate Pro Show. I’m your host, Issa Hanna, and today I have the hardest working man in the industry. An award-winning director, but also a bright mind in real estate investing. Ladies and gentlemen, I wanna introduce to you.

Eric Santos. Eric, welcome to the show.

Eric Santos (02:18)
Is it’s so nice to be with you again, brother. Appreciate that.

Issa Hanna (02:20)
No man, beautiful. I’m so excited to have you and ⁓ super excited to talk to you about everything that you’re doing nowadays. ⁓ so before we get into it, why don’t you give everybody a little rundown on on what your business is?

Eric Santos (02:35)
You know, again, my name is Eric Santos and I wanna thank you so much for having me on, I’m I’m a real estate investor. Typically I focus on on homes that are dilapidated, what people are saying, yo man, I want nothing to do with that. Places that aren’t, you know, no nobody’s maintaining, roofs are bad, and people walk away. And me, I I see I see dollar signs. I look at these properties and I say, Okay, this is this is this is what this is this is gonna go in my portfolio. So I pick up these homes, in in a pretty

you know distressed area where blight is everywhere. And I, you know, I buy them for a good price. I rehab them, And I either rent them out or I sell them. I just, you know, I flip them. And the beautiful part is where I’m actually buying and selling these homes, you know, for since the 1970s, the population has just been going downhill. But within the last two years, there’s been investors like me in this area where for the last two years the population has actually increased. And that’s a

Big sign no knowing that we’re making a a a a positive impact in the city of Detroit, Michigan.

Issa Hanna (03:34)
Definitely. I mean, uplifting the community at the same time, building a lot of equity and being a visionary. You know, a lot of people go to Detroit, they’ll see the run down buildings, they’ll see boarded up houses. Yes. And they won’t be able to see what you see. So I would definitely want to applaud you on that. And then earlier in our conversation, ⁓ you you told me a little bit about your origin story, how you how you got into this. So ⁓ I thought that was super cool. So please share it with our viewers.

Eric Santos (04:03)
You know, I I grew I grew up w with in a big family. You know, you know, there’s there’s six boys, My mom and father got my mom and dad got divorced. So just my mom and six boys, six of us, And what had happened was when I was about twelve years old, my mom was gonna lose her home, you know, you know, she wasn’t paying at you know, so you know, I was the only one that’s I’m second to the youngest, But I stepped up, you know, and I was looking at all the paperwork. My mom only spoke Spanish,

So I would read the paperwork to my mom, mom, they’re, you know, they’re gonna try to take your home, And all this. And then you know, and I did you not pay it? But my mom, you know, she would just buy, you know, like if I needed shoes for running, she would buy the shoes, And she was just horrible with budget, you know, she just, she, you know, she just didn’t understand, you know, the checks and balances, So I helped, you know, save the house, But in that, you know, at 12 years old, I’m looking at these paperwork, learning about what interest is, amortization, 30-year mortgage, all these things.

you know, I I I knew I didn’t know what they meant, Until I became an adult, And go, man, this is the same stuff that I was dealing with my mom, And you know, so it it made sense in that aspect. Now, when I was in college, I remember walking into this pizza parlor, And you know, and ⁓ give me a slice of pizza and what ended up happening, Seeing the guy had had, you know, he had a for sale sign. I go, Hey, you selling your pizza parlor, You know, and he goes, Yeah, got much you want for it, We said, 15 grand. I’ll give you 10 right now,

I think that’s all I had in the bank was 10,000. And he agreed. Yes, right. So I end up buying this pizza parlor, You know. And the next day I’m like, what the heck did I just do? I know nothing about pizza. I know nothing about restaurants, And it took about six months, right, for me to kind of recoup my money and sell it, And that was one of the lessons that, you know, kind of steered me where, you know, you can’t just jump onto something without knowing exactly what you’re doing. You got to do some research. You got to put your time. And most of all, you got to get yourself involved in something that you know a little bit about.

You know, so that right there was a it was a negative when I was going through it. But man, I tell you, it it became a very strong positive in my life of things not to do.

Issa Hanna (06:44)
Definitely, man. I mean, lessons learned ⁓ are huge. And and throughout our journey in life, we learn a lot of lessons and and kudos to you for not losing any money. You know, you made your money back. So six months. Yeah. Exactly. So that sounded like a little bit of a nightmare. Now let’s get into a real estate nightmare because every investor has one.

Eric Santos (06:58)
Lost time, but not money, right?

Issa Hanna (07:09)
And it’s super fun to hear about sometimes. So give me one that you you had and overcame, especially in Detroit.

Eric Santos (07:15)
You know, there’s there’s a t ton of them, So I’m from California, California. I got a couple of duplexes that I bought when the market, you know, went made it took a turn back in 2008, And you know, they’ve been doing extremely well. I mean, I was like, man, I I need to, you know, this this is where I need to be, you know, because the remember when I bought them, the rents were like 700 for each unit, But now, you know, they’re eighteen hundred dollars a unit, you know. So I was thinking, you know, this this is doing pretty good here, And I bought them.

they you know for fifty five thousand when the banks had all these homes right they didn’t know what to do and and they were just giving them away. And I was negotiating with the banks, You know, they w they wanted a hundred and fifty thousand. The house before the market crash was worth four hundred. They wanted one fifty. I said I’ll give you 40,000, You know, and they’re like 40,000 you I got I got it cash right now. I’ll give you 40,000. We agreed on fifty five thousand right. So I picked up my first one. There was another one in a real nice neighborhood out there in the in the central valley here in California,

We agreed on a on a hundred and ten, right? But those been, you know, those have been keep keeping me alive. Those properties. So I got to the point where I said, you know what, I need I need to buy some more properties. I couldn’t afford nothing in California anymore, You know, like that n nothing was like 2008. Now we’re talking real, you know, all the values have gone back up to normal. Where can I invest? Where where can I, you know? So, you know, I was doing, you know, online research, you what I’m saying? Up all night looking at certain things, And realizing

Man, you know, this thing Detroit, Michigan came up. I was like, you’re giving houses away over there, But I’m like, okay, but let me see what the rents are. And I realized that the rents, you know, when I first started buying, they’re $1,100 to $1,200, For a house that you could pick up for $20,000 or and you know, $25,000. I’m like, man, you know, this now this is if it’s real, So I did all my research, look at the photo, look at the land, you know, breaking down the property, tax insurance. Now the next step for me.

I’m flying out there. I’m gonna fly out there, And I’m taking a city bus from the airport through the city of Detroit. So I can look at it from the ground up, I wanted to see where my where if I was gonna invest, I needed to see what that city looked like, From the street level, Now on the bus, you know, man, I tell you, I don’t I don’t suggest anybody take the city bus in Detroit, Michigan, Because that was that was an experience all on its own, And a lot of people that live in Detroit go, Are you crazy? You took the city bus through Detroit. I go, Yeah, I did, But that’s you know.

I I had to make sure that I was gonna make a calculated, you know, investment and not just buy a pizza party like I did, you in the past. But I tell you, so I looked at everything and everything just, you know, it it looked good, you know. And so I think the the very first one, I you know, I I made a mistake, I ended up buying a duplex, Thinking like California. Hey, duplex to get double the money, But the thing that I you know, duplexes don’t work in Detroit, Michigan. I don’t know what it is, But people don’t like living next to each other in Detroit.

Or why should you have a, you know, a live in a an apartment type setting, When you could live in a single family home, right, you know, right down the block, For the same price or cheaper. So I, you know, I bought this house, you know, I think I I paid 70,000 for it. You know, I renovated it, probably put about 15 grand in renovation with new roof, all the new plumbing, mechanicals and such, ⁓ even needed a sewer line that I had to put in, you know, from the house to the back alley, So, you know, I put a little bit of money, and that was my first one. Typically always go a little higher on the first one.

and then you know, I was sh it took me like three months, you know, to get a renter in there. And I was going, man, what is going on here? So I had these renters in there for for a minute, and then when it when it would leave, I had the hardest time getting new renters in there. And I’m like, wait, you know what? I’m gonna cut this one loose. This, you know, I’ll at the at that point I’ve already had about three other ones that I purchased. And those were just boom, hot, you know, I have no two days and I had them, you know, all rented out. And then

So I I, you know, I cut I cut my losses on that ⁓ you know on the duplex. Got to get rid of the duplex and with that money I’ll buy a couple more single family homes. And that’s what I did. After being there for a while, I was picking up homes for 7,500, ⁓ not 10,000, you know, it’s 15 grand, And you know, and most of them, you know, you kind of go on there. My thing is, you know, I learned, you know, look at these foundations, you know, they all got these beautiful basements, California, nobody’s got a basement.

Out there you you know in the basement, you could look at the walls, how the foundation’s set up, I can see the plumbing, I can see the electrical lines, right? You could see everything from the basements, I was like, This is great. It’s almost like opening up a hood of a car, you can see right in there, So I was looking at these houses, And you know, and I said, Okay, you know, and I was looking for the weaknesses. You always gotta find some type of weaknesses because a lot of you know, a lot of times it could be just cosmetic, which is you know a good thing. Or sometimes you got, you know, some leakage of water that comes into these basements. And it happens a lot in Detroit, Michigan.

They got two really, really bad problems over there. They got bad sewer systems, They got these clay, clay sewer lines, and they got these beautiful, gigantic trees everywhere, These these roots, I tell you, they’re they’re about this thick. I don’t know if you can my right. I mean, they’re a huge, you know, they look like trees, And they’re all under the ground and they just crash right through your, you know, your clay sewer lines, And that’s about, you know, if you were to call anybody else, you know, you’re gonna pay about 18 grand, you know, to get a new sewer line put in.

I got guys, you know, we do it for like four grand, you know. So and these are the things. Now at the very beginning, you know, I was I was kind of paying these inflated prices. But after you start rolling and you start going and you start, you know, networking with other people, you start realizing what the prices, you know, what you can really get them for. And you know, so those are the things that at least, you know, why I looked at a negative and made it into a positive, And you know, and I got this this little plan where what I do as a real estate investor.

is I buy four rentals, Buy four homes, You know, the average price, you know, they’ve kind of gone up, you know, within the last four years. So I’m gonna spend maybe about twenty thousand to twenty two thousand. And I like to get my homes from these wholesalers, Wholesalers, right, you buy them, you get them way under market, right? But there’s gonna be some issues with them, So you have to go in there and see if you can afford to fix those issues, And you know, and you have to make sure that they’re not really bad ones, So I know just by looking at a roof, I got my guy doing for 4500. I if I look at the

That’s a sewer line, that’s a four grand pro, you know. Sometimes foundation problem, I like to pass on the foundation issues, Because there, you know, ⁓ I really don’t have a foundation guy. And when when I do get my pricing on foundation, you know, they’re always about 20 grand, And I’m I’m like, this it’s not cost effective for me to do it that way. So I’ll back up. It’s electrical, got my electrical guy. He used to work for the electrical company in Detroit. Now he’s my personal guy, call him over. He reinstalls electric, got my plumber guy, you repiped.

Everything was is pecs over there, You know, ⁓ you know, here in California, you know, you get you got copper piping all over the place, Over there, you know, since it’s so cold it freezes, it gets hot, I call it bipolar, man, because that weather over there, you’re snowing, it’s hot one day, it’s it’s it’s you know rainy, you know, so you it’s kinda like my ex-wife. Nevertheless, you know, I I put this PEX plumbing in there and you it’s inexpensive. It’s a little plastic, you know, pipe, but you gotta have guys that, you know, hook everything up.

Issa Hanna (14:09)
Yeah.

Eric Santos (14:25)
So, you know, if if you buy, I buy four homes, I make them rentals, four rentals. And then my fifth one, I buy it to flip, And that one I buy it, I put nicer finishes in there, Farmhouse sinks, brand new cabinets, Beautiful ones in there, beautiful paint structures, LVP down on the floors, You know, I make sure that everything’s taken care of, you know, put nice appliances in there. And those are the ones that I, you know, I ask for a little bit more money. But when when it sells, you got cash in your hand. You know you’re doing something right because now you got cash in your bank.

And with that money I could go buy, you know, another three more houses, So it becomes this cycle. Now, if you have a t you know, a tax man, right, you you he always tells you, you gotta keep buying Because that’s how that’s how you get your your tax thing down is you you have you have write offs, So you gotta keep buying to keep that write off going, So that’s one of the things that I learned over there, And you know, interestingly enough, within my first year, I made one point eight million dollars. And year. For me, that was a lot. You know what I’m saying? You

I was like, man, you and I you I had a career in radio making, you know, six figures, but never you know, never that much in in one year. So I thought I’d go, you know what, I think I found what I’ve been missing. Or I found what I’ve been looking for.

Issa Hanna (15:33)
No, definitely. And every real estate investor has a cool story, but that was one of the you went from pizza shop learning the lesson all the way to to from California, from coast to coast almost, from California all the way to Detroit. And for those people that are at home that aren’t familiar with, you know, Detroit and and older cities like that, these houses, a lot of them are a hundred years old. Yes. when Eric was talking about the clay pipe, the clay pipes are a

30 feet long and they attach to the sewer system in the street. Yeah. So when you have to replace this line, you’re digging out a six-foot trench 30 feet long. so it it definitely gets costly. Eric, what does the future hold for you?

Eric Santos (16:58)
You know, right now right now, interesting things tend to work, you know, themselves out, You know, the good thing is I’m I’m extremely busy because now I’ve done so much business, And I’m always an honest guy. I’m I I’m fair with everybody. I don’t burn not one person because I’ve been burned over there. You know, you get when you first move into a city, you know, contractors will come in and take a deposit from you. That’s the last time you see the guy you took off with your money, So, you know, I’m going, you know, I’m not in Kansas anymore, you what I’m saying? Or I’m not in Cali anymore. I have to learn how they do business over there. And it’s, you it’s cutthroat.

I call it the wild, wild west over there in Detroit. But nevertheless, you know, you have to really be there physically. So I I would fly out there, you know, every four weeks, right, to meet my crew, get them together. And now I have a, you know, a an honest good crew. You know, so you know, I I like to buy homes and and and you know and just kind of put renters in there or even ⁓ a lot of times they these homeowners lose their houses because of blight. They got a bad roofs, You know, they got overgrowth on the on their you know property.

They get cited. They can’t afford to pay the bill. The city comes in and takes this house away from them, Next thing you know, it’s being sold on, you there’s a land bank, they call it Detroit land bank, right? And they’re selling this person’s house now, They kick them out, boom, right? And then guys like me come in, you know, without really knowing the backstory and buy these homes, You know, so my thing, I, you know, when I realize that, you know, people are losing their homes and I’m buying them, I like to talk with the owner. I say, listen, man, let me fix this up and and I’ll see if I can work with you to buy your house back.

But I’m gonna fix it up for you, I’m gonna do all the things that that you were tagged for and so forth, And I’ll see if we can work out a deal, Where you can get your house back. So there’s been some people that you know that have gotten their own homes back, With me kind of redeveloping, re-renovating the house. And you know, it’s a win-win for everybody, you know, on that part. So I got I got now people here in California in my little circle, little area that wanna invest over. They hear my story, everybody, I want to go to Detroit, And you know, so

you know, I show them what I’m doing, And you a lot of guys fly out to when we go look at some houses and and they they see what I’m doing and of course they want to jump on board. What ends up happening is you get people who, you know, who definitely come out and will buy. Other ones, you know, they’re scared. I’m saying they’re on the fence, They just they can’t pull the trigger, You’re like, dude, come on, man. You’ve been this is what you’ve been asking for. You’re here, you know, do it. Right. But then I don’t want to seem like I’m some type of sale because I’m not selling anything to the guy,

I’m like, you know, I’m living financial freedom right now, thanks to Detroit and what’s going on. And I’m just trying to share, you know, share that that love with these guys. So you you won’t and not everybody wants to invest over there or they can’t. you know, so my thing is, you know, do your homework. Do your homework, you know, kind of, you know, do it online, go see it, go over there and visually see it, And then make a calculated decision. You know what I’m saying? You know, make a ⁓ a decision where you would when you make it, You’re gonna say, you know what, all I checked all the boxes, You know, all the boxes.

And don’t do like I did when I bought that pizza parlor, You know, don’t move don’t don’t run on a motion, You know, at least have some sense about what you’re gonna do. But it it’s for me it’s a gold mine.

Issa Hanna (19:48)
You definitely gotta think about it first. And we spoke about this earlier in our conversation. But ⁓ the one thing good about real estate is you can speculate pretty good. ⁓ and especially somebody like you who has a lot of knowledge and then has been able to build such a such a team around them, a strong team. You mentioned you were flying to Detroit ⁓ every week almost every month, yeah, until you were able to put together a team. So

For people who are just getting into this ⁓ property business and and looking to build the team and foster business relationships and whatnot, ⁓ what advice do you have for

Eric Santos (20:22)
You know, building a team, that’s that that was like the most difficult thing that that that that I had experienced. But you know what? You get your stripes after a while, You’re gonna get burned. You know what I’m saying? I you know, that’s that’s you know, I hate to say it like that, But you know, that it’s gonna happen, And and sometimes those are just your your learning experiences, How how you grow because you realize, okay, I’m not gonna do this anymore. I’m not gonna give a deposit. So I t I told my guys when I first started working with them, you know, I would say, listen, you know, I’m not gonna give you a deposit.

Saying I go if you want to trust me, you know what I’m saying? You know, you know, if you don’t trust me, fine, you know, you can go about your business. But I’m telling you, if you, you know, you can do the job that you say you can do, You know, I’ll take care of you. You know, they they want to get paid, you know what I’m saying? I want to get the the you know, the the work done, you know what I’m saying? So we both need each other, It just there’s that trust factor thing that comes in there, And you know, and so me, I I need to be there all the time, So I was flying out there, you know, and for anybody knows I got I got this pass from Frontier Airlines, like five hundred bucks a year.

You c I can fly to Detroit for 16 bucks, So I can come back and forth for sixteen dollars each way. Look into that, man. If if you know, if if somebody needs to, you know, to learn how to get over to wherever they need to go. And they fly everywhere. Yeah. So my thing is w now, once that guy did the job without the deposit, And he knew I paid him, here’s your money, And I told him, Hey man, I appreciate you doing this, You know, I got 14 other homes, What? So now right he keeps starts working on my other homes and I’m keeping them busy,

Issa Hanna (21:29)
So anyway.

Eric Santos (21:43)
So and that’s how you start building a crew. And so you start building a crew that you have to be there. You know, it’s got to be that mutual respect and trust. And, you know, and and my thing, you know, I I I talk to him, you know, just like I’m talking to you. We just, you know, you gotta really kind of get into the, you know, the the the human act you the human factor. Can’t just be all business, business, business, You gotta really know, you know, I I know his daughters, I know you know what I’m saying, the where he lives, yeah, all all these things, We you know, when I come to town, come on, man, let’s go grab a beer, you know, we’ll go over, you know.

They got this great place called Green Lantern Pizza. man, I tell you when I like Detroit, I like I like that pizza. We go there and have a good time, you know. But so so building a crew. Building a crew is gonna be your greatest challenge. Anyone can go buy a home, But you have to know how to build a crew, If you can’t do the work yourself, And I can’t. I’m I’m not you know, I know what to look for, but I I don’t do the work myself. I you know, so I have to come out of pocket and I need to hire a crew. Now I got a such a good crew, I got two crews, you know.

And so I got them working on, you know, on multiple houses and a couple of my guys from California that have finally invested and bought a bunch of houses over there. They use my crew guys. You I s I said, all right, you know, so when I’m slow on my homes, I send them over to his house and, you know, and we we got it going that way. So, you know, so building a crew, I think, is one one of the most important aspects for me that I’ve noticed in in real estate purchasing.

Issa Hanna (22:58)
Definitely you did the road work, you you built it from the ground up and and now you’re keeping them happy with your with your other friends who are investing. And you’re and you’re you’re you’re not gatekeeping the secret. You you’re telling your friends in California like, Hey, yeah, Detroit’s a gold mine, you might not think so. So And Cleveland. Cleveland, Ohio as well. Definitely.

Eric Santos (23:18)
You

know, there’s some great spots over there, you know. And I I was buying in Cleveland, you know, for some time. I didn’t like their water the their water bill because a lot of times, you know, and that was the reason I pulled out of Cleveland, ’cause they it’s almost like a the water bill follows the the the homeowner, And it was it was so high that I was like, man, it’s not cost effective, you know. So, you know, you learn and you you know, and and you just remedy your mistakes, So I kind of pulled out of but I have a friend that’s, you know, that owns a hundred and twenty five rentals in in Cleveland and Ohio,

And ⁓ he was like one of my mentors before I really got started, you know. So when I was doing my research, I seen some things online of him. So I went over to meet him. I you gonna do after I go to Detroit to this city bus, look at the you know, I’m gonna fly over to Cleveland real quick, Which I did, spend a few days with him, you know, tak take a ride in his truck and see how he’s doing things, And it kind of and and it mesh with, you know, how I how I was thinking of doing things, And I would pick up some pointers and you to this day, sometimes if I get in a jam, you know.

I’ll call him. Hey man, what do you do? You know, I got I bought this house, but it smells like dead dog in this, There’s some house you pick up and it’s got a nasty stench, And I didn’t know how to get rid of it, So go, hey, just buy this thing called Oregon, you you all this and this and that. If it’s a carp, pull the carpet, you gotta replace, you know. So he would give me some pointers on how to, you know, how how to remedy certain situations and move forward on that part.

Issa Hanna (24:34)
Definitely for those ⁓ and for the viewers at home, ⁓ Cleveland, Ohio, Detroit, great rental markets if you’re willing to do the work. ⁓ we’ve got a we’ve got a bona fide ⁓ star of Detroit right here investing in Detroit. So if you guys are looking for a nice city to start off in, definitely a great city, but do your homework like Eric said. ⁓ Eric, if people wanted to get a hold of you.

Eric Santos (24:58)
Yeah, sure.

Issa Hanna (25:01)
In Detroit, ⁓ in California, anywhere that you’re doing your business, maybe they wanted to buy one of your nice houses that you’re that you’re flipping, where could they get a hold of you?

Eric Santos (25:10)
Couple places. I’ll give you a I’ll give you a website. I have a I have a movie website, But it has all my my my numbers, my email address on there, So it’s Cheo C H E O Chao the Movie dot com, cheothemovie.com And you know, I’ll and I’ll give you my email address if you want to contact me direct. It’s Eric with a C, E-R-I-C, and then Jazz. I used to be a jazz announcer on a radio station. So J A Z Z and the number nine one. So ericjazz91

@aol.com I think I’m the last member of AOL.

Issa Hanna (25:42)
I actually know a few people still have it. I I might still have mine too. ⁓ and I wanted to get into this because he mentioned movie and I mentioned in the beginning ⁓ producer, and you guys are like, producing what? ⁓ Eric is an actual award-winning producer who’s produced his own movies. Eric, give us a little bit about the new movie you’ve produced.

Eric Santos (26:04)
You know, I tell you know, I’m working on my second one now. This was released probably about five years ago. But it’s a it’s a great movie. I I got, you know, out of New York, you know, I got best director and ⁓ best writer. I was actually in here in California, we got this thing called the Chinese Theater. All the big stars come out back in the fifties, And they put their foot handprints in the cement, So they played my movie there. I won this award. They played my movie there at the Chinese theater. I cut a couple other states. I think there was actually one. No, it was in Atlanta. I got an award there for our best film.

⁓ you know but you know it’s it my thing was you know i i i tend to you know the because sometimes the real estate could you know kind of fog up your brain so my outlet right was you know writing right you know writing scripts and you know and i had this story for since i was a kid so i wrote this story right on you on youtube you can find it right it’s called fill your heart f-i l or fill your heart right ⁓ the movie dot com and you can get it you can watch it for free or if you have amazon prime right chao right just c h e o

Can you can watch it for free there if you got Amazon Prime. Or if you don’t, you have to pay a couple bucks just once to watch the movie. But you know, it’s about two best friends growing up in my old neighborhood, One one was a you know, a c like a DJ, but he was really talented. He can knows how to make music and compose all this music. And he’s a has a buddy of his that he grew up with that’s not as talented, So the guy who’s not as talented, right, ends up stealing the music ideas of his, you know, of his best friend, And goes out and gets himself like a multi million dollar, you know, recording deal.

Right. You he goes out there and so the one who actually had, you know, the talent, He kinda falls away, you know, into drugs, alcohol, thinking that, you know, you know, he had no talent. But he never knew that his buddy stole his music, You know. So you know, the movie kinda kinda figure out if there’s some type of redemption factor, you know what I’m saying? And that’s what you guys gonna have to watch the movie and find out. So jailthemovie.com, ⁓ you know, or or or on Amazon, C H E O. Jail.

Issa Hanna (27:52)
Make sure you guys check this movie out. ⁓ Eric, I enjoyed interviewing you. You’re a true renaissance man of the real estate world. A very, very, very ⁓ interesting guy to to talk to. So I appreciate you coming on my show.

Eric Santos (28:06)
Thank you so much for having me here. I really appreciate you doing

Issa Hanna (28:09)
No problem, no problem. And then if you guys enjoyed my conversation with Eric, make sure to like and subscribe. I talk to people every day who could bring us different knowledge on every aspect of the real estate business. Until next time, the real estate pros are out.