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In this episode of the Real Estate Pros Podcast, host Micah Johnson interviews Caleb Keys, a successful real estate investor with a unique journey that began in China. Caleb shares his experiences in the real estate industry, emphasizing the importance of relationships, mentorship, and financial literacy. He discusses how he transitioned from managing hostels in China to investing in real estate in Indianapolis, focusing on building wealth and revitalizing communities. The conversation highlights the significance of education, taking action, and finding the right team in real estate investing.
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Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (00:00)
I actually started my real estate career in Wuhan, China, managing in hostels.⁓ out there, so I came up with a wild, crazy, hostile idea. And then I came back to my neighborhood and I grew up in the hood in the less fortunate community and I came back and bought it back. So that is originally how I started my real estate career and I’ve been uplifting as we climb ever since. So I started there and now I’m here. So started from the bottom, now we’re here.
Micah Johnson (02:04)
Hello everyone. Welcome to the Real Estate Pros Podcast. I’m your host, Micah Johnson. And today I’m joined by Caleb Keys, who’s been making some serious moves in real estate investing for the last seven years. Caleb, welcome in, man. Glad to have you.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (02:17)
Hey, how’s it going, Micah? How you doing today? Hailing all the way from Indianapolis, Indiana today.Micah Johnson (02:25)
Love that, man. I’m doing well. I’m glad to have you coming at you from San Augustine, Florida here. I’m pumped for our call today, man. In our pre-recording, you spent the last seven years building a few significant businesses here. The way you go about it, the mindset behind it, the education you give out, man, I love what you’re doing. So I’m excited to dig into it. So for folks who may not know you yet, tell us what’s your main focus right now. And then you just mentioned you’re in Indianapolis. Is that the main market that you’re operating in?Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (02:53)
Yes.So everybody, hello. Welcome to the podcast. My name is Caleb Keys. I am a international and local United States real estate investor, licensed general contractor, and also a realtor in the Midwest, specifically located in Indianapolis, Indiana. I’ve been inside of the game of real estate for the last seven years.
I actually started my real estate career in Wuhan, China, managing in hostels.
⁓ out there, so I came up with a wild, crazy, hostile idea. And then I came back to my neighborhood and I grew up in the hood in the less fortunate community and I came back and bought it back. So that is originally how I started my real estate career and I’ve been uplifting as we climb ever since. So I started there and now I’m here. So started from the bottom, now we’re here.
Micah Johnson (03:50)
⁓ Okay, I gotta stop you. Hostiles in China, how in the world did you end up doing that?Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (03:56)
So actually, man, it’s crazy story. My freshman year, one of my guys had did an internship in China. He spoke Mandarin full blown. He lived on my floor freshman year. Didn’t even know this, right? So we were cool and stuff like that. And he came back my sophomore year. He said, hey, Keys, I got this opportunity for you. I know you want to go to China very bad. ⁓ They’ll pay for everything. Only thing you need to do is get your flight over there.And I’m like, no way. He said, but it’s not typically what you would think is going to be. Right. So he’s like, I’m sending you over there to teach English, but I know the type of individual who you are, you’re going to make something out of nothing. Right. So when I went over there to teach English, my sophomore year, my homestay, look at how God works. My homestay owned hostels. Look at, look at, I didn’t have no knowledge of real estate. Right.
Micah Johnson (04:42)
Right?Mmm.
Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (04:55)
He came in, he owned hostels. So when I came there, I get to China and I’m starting to realize that everything they pay double if it’s American,Micah Johnson (04:56)
HaCaleb Keys – CEO_Keys (05:52)
right? So not even just saying, hey, this is a foreign, this is exported to them. No, like anything that is American that is attached to it, they pay double for it. So I’ll give you an example. As I’m teaching English, the parents asked me specifically to side tutor for them. This is how it happened.So I’m like, okay, well, they asked me and said, hey, I will pay you double. Well, mind you, I had other teachers with me. My other teachers, they could all speak English, but they didn’t have the American accent. That was identifier number one. Identifier number two, I walked around and I said, well, I’m noticing that clothing, our phones, everything is copied to a T. And they are, if it was an iPhone from Apple, it was double the charge, right?
So I’m like, hmm, that makes sense. So now you guys are just trying to anything that’s American, I want in on it. So then I came back, I went to a hostel, another hostel to go travel into a different city for a weekend. And we went to an international hostel. While I was in that hostel, the Chinese people that lived in that city said, we just come here to stay on the weekends. And I’m like, so you see.
Micah Johnson (06:42)
Mm-hmm, right.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (07:10)
This is your fun. Like we go out in America, we go out, we have fun, go out to the club and stuff. For them, theirs is education. So they came to this hostel just to practice with foreigners on their English.So I put all this in my head, I’m starting to think. And here was the icing on the cake. As I went back to my homestay, I’m starting to brainstorm. And he comes up, he said, man, you know, after you guys leave, I kind of have time struggling during the downtime when it’s not peak season. So I’m like, why do you have a time when it’s not peak season? You know, he’s like, well, students aren’t traveling, people aren’t traveling, so.
You know, people aren’t coming to stay in these hotels. So I’m like, so what if we, I’ve got an idea. So they pay double for everything that they have over here. People want to be around Americans. So let’s do this. I said, let’s come up with the idea. We designed all the rooms, like five American cities. So you got the experience that if you were to come to America and visit those cities.
You got the experience without actually coming to America. So we had San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Dallas, and Miami. So you got the wallpaper, the sports teams, the what to do, what type of things that you should go and see. All this was happening while they, while we, ⁓ when I organized this. So I’m like, people, this is going to bring a tremendous influx of people regardless. Right. So.
Micah Johnson (08:30)
Yeah.Right.
Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (08:53)
Thatwas an idea I did from my sophomore. I came up with it. It ran from my junior year of college until I was a senior. I graduated 2017 and went back to China until 2019. And then we ended up getting an offer to sell the business off. Yep. And so my home state, he was older. So I told him, I’m like,
Micah Johnson (09:15)
Wow.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (09:20)
you’re probably, we’re probably not going to get this opportunity again, you know, for him to be able to buy land in China, right? Cause he didn’t have, you know, in China it’s all political. So you can’t buy land how we can here. So he had that opportunity. I’m like, you take this, I’m going to go back to America and I’m going to go buy my land in my neighborhood and do the same thing. Right? So that’s how I got started with the hostility inside of China.Micah Johnson (09:43)
Right?Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (09:50)
Major shout out to Lao Chen. ⁓ Shout out to my my guy Austin Babb, man. If you ever watch this, you are the reason why I am where I am today.man, it was a phenomenal journey and yeah, I wouldn’t change it for the world, man.
Micah Johnson (10:37)
I love that, man.So no thoughts of real estate before that experience.
Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (10:48)
I always had this thought of real estate, but it was to build wealth, right? So any mentor that I’ve had, I grew up in a single parent house home. so I had a lot of male figures inside of my life. And so they would always shape me. The number one way you need to build or how you establish wealth, not being rich, but wealth, there’s a difference, is to establish it with real estate.Micah Johnson (11:03)
in some way.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (11:16)
whether if you’re buying a house, whether if you’re doing an investment, you know, whatever the case may be with real estate is the way that you’re going to build generational wealth or become wealthy in general. So that was just my thought process. And I always wanted to, I was a people person. So it was easy for me. I ran a consulting business inside of college. So for me, I love to solve problems. Hey, you told me that you got a problem with slowing down.Okay, how can I bring more people into it? What do they want to see? What do they want to know? And you know, from the Chinese culture, they’re very straightforward, very strict, very studious. And so what may appear to be fun to us over here is not fun to them. So just taking advantage and seeing that opportunity like, okay, well, I see that they would rather go and be together.
Micah Johnson (12:09)
Mm.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (12:16)
at a hostel and spend that same money that they would spend going out and having fun, but they’re spending it to be together and also collaborate and practice on their skills, you know.Micah Johnson (12:29)
Yeah. Yeah. It’s fascinating, man. I love it when that’s what I do enjoy about real estate is how much life experience fits into it. Like it’s your, we all need homes. all like in the end, every human being interacts with a home. So any life experience that you have can connect with people in the industry, no matter which section that you’re in, because it’s a human thing. It’s not anything else. It’s a, it’s a human connect beyond the math.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (12:53)
Yeah. Yeah.Micah Johnson (12:56)
Real estate is a people business. Like it’s two different things. Yes, there’s the math part. It has to be a deal, but I can give you, show you great numbers. And if you have no idea how to talk to that seller, it doesn’t matter. You don’t have a deal at all. You just got hope.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (13:08)
Yeah,you just got hope, man. So that’s the thing about real estate is one big thing that I’ve always been told is it’s not going to, it’s a long game and you have to understand people. That’s it. Relationships matter. Somebody will sell you a deal versus selling him a deal just because of the relationship they have.
Micah Johnson (13:28)
Mm.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (13:38)
So I think the opportunity inside of real estate, I saw financial freedom, but I also saw the opportunity to build and make something nice, right? Take something that was ran down, that was ugly, that didn’t look good, nobody wanted it, and make it into something that somebody wants and they prize and cherish.Micah Johnson (14:06)
Love that man. it’s one of my favorite things about flippers because real estate is very personality driven. ⁓ It’s a big umbrella. You can find yourself in all different kinds of niches, but you can find yourself in things that you don’t enjoy doing too. However, one of the things I’ve noticed about Vixen flippers that gives them sustainability and that just the ability to stay long enough to get the most out is what you just described. They like bringing things back to life.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (14:12)
No, don’t.Micah Johnson (14:35)
Like that does it for them. The money’s good, that’s great, but they like taking that project. They don’t mind managing people and the contractors and all the things because it does it for them emotionally to bring that thing back to life. And it’s super special, man, because I’ve done one fix and flip and it was not my thing. I realized that’s not the part of the process that I enjoy the most. ⁓ And I struggle with…Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (14:38)
Yep.Micah Johnson (15:01)
I’m not good at being inside a place and seeing it for what it can be. That’s not my gift either. So it’s like understanding again, what you’re good at inside of real estate, because it really does matter, especially when it comes to that final product.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (15:04)
Let’s see. Yeah.Micah Johnson (15:56)
know, we were talking a little bit about affordability earlier, and that’s the big buzzword right now. But affordability does not mean cheap. That is not the same thing, right?Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (15:57)
yeah.Micah Johnson (16:07)
Quality of product is all the way across the board. Affordability does not mean cheap and still to build something affordable requires you to be highly skilled. It requires you to still have everything you need in your tool belt to be successful. What really is the difference is that heart behind it, that desire to build that quality product, to put your name on it, especially when you’re doing it in your backyard, right? I love the fact that you’re back home, you’re where you’re doing it.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (16:21)
Yeah.Micah Johnson (16:36)
real estate investors in their hometown. It’s like the most heartwarming story to me because you’re literally revitalizing your hometown in a visual way, right? A lot of people do a lot of good community service their whole life, but you never can really see a whole lot of it, but real estate investors, you can see it. You can literally drive around and show your kids, Hey, I did that. I did that over there. And this over here, right? There’s like, I love it.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (16:57)
Yeah.Yeah
Yeah, bro, I ain’t gonna lie. That does it for me, man. Being able to go and see that I’m gonna help beautifying the neighborhood and bringing something that everybody used to overlook or nobody really wanted and now driving people to want to move over there to want to help with the programs that are going over there to shed the light on the taxes that get pushed to the school system.
to make the schools better. Cause that was one reason about myself is I had an opportunity to go to a township school instead of going to public. And my biggest thing was, no, I don’t want to cheat the system and say, Hey, here’s my address. And I stay over at my cousin’s house. I want to tell everybody I made it out of Indiana public school systems, which nobody would think that you can. And one of the worst high schools at that. it’s like, ⁓
You have to understand the why behind your story and why do you want to do it. So that is one big thing is I get to go back and say, look, I did this. helped, you know, put this street. I helped put these individuals up, did this house over. So yeah, man, it does. It gives it back. But I said, I know you said ⁓ one and done for you, huh?
Micah Johnson (18:24)
I love that.On the flips part man on the flips part. I love real estate lands one of my favorite things to mess with I’m not saying I’ll never do it again. I’m just saying it’s not my main thing that I enjoy doing ⁓ because but I love that ⁓
Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (18:41)
So Micah, what are you? What are you? ⁓Yeah, what do you primarily invest in?
Micah Johnson (18:45)
What were we saying?Land is my main thing. That is what I enjoy. So I grew up farming here in Florida. I’ve done a lot of properties, sold somewhere about a thousand houses in like my moving, hustling career days. But it got to the point where my ability to care was changing. My conversations with homeowners and things was changing where it was sucking the life out of me.
Right. wasn’t doing, I couldn’t actually care anymore. And if I can’t care, then I’m not just going to take from you even because I know how to do it. Like I got a rule there very hard stop. And that’s where I’ve shifted back to. Okay. I grew up farming and a lot of land, how to use it. So I’m currently in studying phase, honestly, about how to acquire large tracts of land and then make a cashflow using different strategies, whether that’s renting it to farmers, putting pine trees on it for the short term and long term.
That’s where I’m studying, man. And again, it’s, it’s fun because I’ve been in it 14 years and I just got to bounce along, find that thing that does it for you, log into it and it’ll keep feeding you again. That’s what I love about real estate. It’s big. has room for growth. You can find yourself in it. Um, yeah, man, absolutely. So
Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (20:00)
Yeah,Micah Johnson (20:00)
You do some work withCaleb Keys – CEO_Keys (20:01)
man, I love it.Micah Johnson (20:01)
schools too. What I’ve noticed about your stories behind it, you have the heart to teach too. Education and letting people know what’s going on. Even where you, the main thing you said you want to folks to take away from this is, is learn and take action. Tell us a little bit about how you do work in the community. And for someone listening to this, let’s say they’re on the fence, not sure how to get started. What’s, what’s that thing you would want them to know to get them in the game?Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (20:27)
⁓ the biggest thing I will say is you can use, there’s two ways to answer this question, right? You have, when I first started the game of real estate, everything that I’ve learned thus far is from trial and error. So I just went out there, I put my head first and I just went to go do it. Right. However, now that I look back on it, there are a couple of things that I wish I had knowledge on.Micah Johnson (20:33)
ThankCaleb Keys – CEO_Keys (20:56)
that I could have done better. So for example, getting in different peer groups and understanding and getting involved in those. And so we’ll talk about that later, but being around the people who are inside of your realm to gain wisdom and gain experience. So I will say I’ve gotten thus far, ⁓ thus fast because of listening to wisdom, right? So I have a good mentor, shout out to David Hayes, man.has always taught me about the financial literacy aspect, right? And so when I first came into real estate, I didn’t know how to get loans. I was coming fresh over from China, didn’t have W-2s, and before that I was in college, so I didn’t have a job, right? But I had the capital to be able to invest. So learning how to deploy your capital, right?
and knowing how to leverage it. So instead of me buying my property outright, I could have took that, got a hard money loan. That would have cost me a sliver of what I had. And then I would have been using somebody else’s money and I could have bought three, four other projects at that time. Now, do I recommend doing that until you get your components together? No, right. But now looking back, that is one big thing that
financial literacy aspect that I wish I would have had. Another thing is you can learn from YouTube, but being on YouTube all day doesn’t actually do the action of it. So you can learn, you can study, you’re going to have to make your first mistake. You’re going to have to take your first lesson. Anybody would tell you if they…
not telling you that they didn’t lose money on their first deal as a real estate individual or a real estate investor. They’re not telling you the truth, right? But my first real estate deal helped me to where I am today. My first deal, I did it all the way down to the studs and I did a 20 by 20 add on. So not only did I basically build it, build another house, I basically built another house. I had a poor foundation and
Micah Johnson (23:04)
He went for it.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (23:11)
do that stuff for the add-on frame, roof, siding gutters, everything for the add-on and inside the house, I took down the walls all the way complete gut. So I basically rebuilt the house. So in that manner, I then gained the network. So I became the contractor. I became the realtor. So when I hired the first group of contractors, I learned very quickly.Those are the most important people to your point of gain. If they’re bad, get them out quickly. So I had a partner on my first go around. I kept telling him, now my first contractor was my uncle. Did he know how to do the work? yeah. But did he move on his own time? yeah, he did. Right? So that’s a prime example of don’t hire your family because you know they know how to do the work. Don’t just listen to anybody because they give you a number, right?
He told me he can get it done. I believe it was like 60 grand back then. I should have knew that it was like a hundred grand, I’m building a basically a new house, right? So that was one big thing that I would suggest to people is like, Hey, build your team, build your network. Don’t be so fast to rush and get there and take your time with it. Right? Cause I know for me after
I did my first slip, I took off. I started banging them out. Why? Because I took the good crews and I created a contracting company. So that way I can control the speed of the work and the quality of work. Right? And then I became the realtor so I can do what? Find my own properties, buy my own properties and sell my own properties. Right? So monopolize it and figure out different streams of revenue.
Micah Johnson (24:52)
Boom.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (25:06)
in this one lane of what we call real estate, ultimately, right? And so, Micah, you were talking about this earlier. It’s like, hey, I went from this field inside of real estate and now I’m over here, right? But real estate has ⁓ such a big realm ⁓ that people don’t even know about, you know? So that’s what I was saying.Micah Johnson (25:26)
Right.Right. I love that, man. It’s so true too. And I will second the fact of fine mentors, fine people actually doing the business, right? YouTube’s helpful, but you can’t ask it questions and work with people who are doing this. And it’s not just about the knowledge that you get from them. It’s how they make you go into action. It’s hard not to take action when you surround yourself with action takers.
That was a ⁓ huge life changing moment for me when I got into my first group. When you surround yourself with action takers, you take action. You can’t help but do it. It’s why they always say, you’re circled, the five people you hang out with the most are the most important. What are they doing? If they don’t do anything, you’re not doing anything. It really is true. And that is step one in real estate, education. I couldn’t agree with you more. Learn.
Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (26:14)
Yep. ⁓Micah Johnson (26:22)
Making an offer is about step 10 or further in. It is not what you’re doing first. There’s so much before that where you can set your life and success up from people like us who’ve learned. We’ve walked the road. We’re not just making it up. These are life earned lessons where you can cut off years and make way more money by listening to wisdom like you’ve been saying. Real estate’s not a mystery. People have been successful at it.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (26:49)
I’mMicah Johnson (26:51)
for a century now or more, right? It’s how do you build the process? And like you were saying, what are you building? If you don’t know what you’re building, you have no idea what to build. You’re just making stuff up and hope’s not a strategy.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (26:53)
Woo!Yeah, yeah, and I completely agree, man. think another thing is, one thing that I tell people is making sure the people that you are learning from are accredited and they’re not trying to charge you X amount of money for wisdom that they’re not even doing, right? We have seen this from everybody starting in 2020, 2021.
to the people who are no longer doing podcasts or doing stuff like Micah, Micah’s still here. As you can still see, Investor Fuel is still around doing what they’re supposed to do. You will see that a lot of these podcasts are not around, no shame to anybody, but understanding, are these people really in it to help the people and educate people? Or are they just trying to make a quick, fast buck, right?
Understanding who you’re learning from can they show you this can they actually show you property that they are? Walking into right now not showing you a Ferrari that they’re driving down the street or I got this news Rolls Royce Selling you our lifestyle marketing. Do you go on their Instagram photo? And do you see on their social media? Are they at their property? Are they at a work site? Are they do they got they boots on are they in the field real deal?
You know, those are the type of people you want to learn from, not somebody who’s saying, yeah, give me five grand and I’ll teach you. And then they can’t even show you a project.
Micah Johnson (28:40)
Exactly.Exactly. And you may named it that particular time here. We just lived through created a lot of gurus who got great at selling courses and are terrible at real estate. And if you’re working with a coach and they are not actively doing real estate, then they cannot teach you anything. And that’s no offense to them. Real estate changes too fast. If you are not actively doing it, there’s a reason I don’t coach single family real estate investors. I don’t run a business that does it every day anymore.
That’s not what I’m doing. So why do I, I don’t have the right to tell you, even if I know a lot, I’m not going to tell you cause I’m not doing it day in day out boots on the ground, know what’s going on. Cause that’s who can teach you. That’s the one you want to learn from. Like you’re saying, because they actually have something to say. They’re not, they’re not living and dying on the fact that they need to sell that course. And the ones that typically create courses that are really good at it, they have that teaching heart.
They got good at real estate and they just naturally have that hard to teach people and they want to share. And it usually wasn’t a goal to start a coaching company. It was just so many people started asking. They’re like, okay, I got to charge for this. My time is too important. Right? Like it’s this natural byproduct of being awesome. It’s not like this second thing that you’re going after. And I’m with you, man. I get hyped up about it, but learn from people that are doing it. Don’t take their opinion. One of my favorite books is the richest man in Babylon.
Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (29:43)
Yeah.I see.
Micah Johnson (30:12)
Don’t get opinion on Jules from the Brick Maker, right? Talk to people actually doing what you’re doing.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (30:16)
MayMan, I will tell you so much brother that that is the number one struggle. And I think that is the reason why the market is the way it is right now. Like so much high inventory is because you have these gurus that are teaching these people right. And the people aren’t really learning the most important pieces of the real estate equation. Like contractors, you need to have your con. That’s the first thing that you need to have.
all the way together before you start any project because the contractor costs you money in several ways. Timelines, delays, ⁓ having to repay for work. These are that’s the big equation that you barely hear real estate gurus talk about. But you get these individuals who take their course, they go buy their first property, but then they find out they got to go through three, four contractors, you know, instead of
And matter of fact, I’m going to drop a gym for you guys since I tuned in. The best way to find a license or a ⁓ contractor that’s really doing work in the field, there’s several ways. Yes, you can go to your Facebook groups, right? That’s the novice way. Yes, you can go ahead and go to the meetups. That’s the novice way. But going to your city website, going to see
Micah Johnson (31:24)
Enough!Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (31:47)
who is actually pulling the permits on there and you can develop a solid team. Now, some people are gonna be expensive, some people are gonna be moderate price, but here’s the thing, if you can understand and they understand the difference between a homeowner and an investor pricing, they know that, right? A plumber knows that, an electrician knows that, a HVAC, a framer, they know this.So understanding that you can go onto these websites and get the quality that you want, and you just have to do the explanation. Hey, I’m an investor. I’m not your regular homeowner. Once they hear that, they understand, OK, my price difference has to have a difference, right? And that’s a way that you’re going to find the quality without having to worry about, I got to double pay for this work? Go and get three, four people off of those lists. That way, you know that they’re doing their
work up to code, right? Because they have to get it checked by the city people. So you know that they’re doing their work correctly, that they have a license and bond because they wouldn’t be able to have a license if they didn’t have the insurance and all. All of the stuff that you got to cut out without asking those questions as a novice investor, you just go do that simple thing and you’ll be able to find it. How are they going to be on your budget? That’s where you’re going to have to figure out on your own. But you know.
That’s a major gem that a lot of these gurus don’t talk about and don’t tell people, you know.
Micah Johnson (33:21)
So true, so true, man. Thanks for sharing that with us. I’ve really enjoyed our conversation today, Caleb, man. You starting in China with hostels to bringing that idea back, creating what you have today, multiple businesses going, working with folks. So for those out there listening and watching that’d be interested in learning more about you, following along what you have going on, what’s the best way for them to find you?Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (33:44)
You can find me on Facebook, Caleb Keys. You can find me also on LinkedIn at Caleb Keys. If you want to follow me on Instagram, ceo_keys. And so I’m the vice president for earn your leisure university and earn your leisure is a financial literacy platform. You can tune in, find us on YouTube or the university at EYLU, but it’s a financial literacy platform that’snot just about real estate, but for a total about how to create, build and create generational wealth. So if you want to learn about stocks, if you want to learn about ⁓ investing, if you want to learn health and wellness, know, networking, AI, what is AI, even how to work on it. ⁓ This platform, 8 a.m. Monday on YouTube. And we go over stuff like this for free.
You know, and these are guys that care about the community, that care about people’s wellbeing, ⁓ that isn’t asking for money. They’re making everybody money, which is the funny part about it, is that they’re making everybody money and not asking for none, right? So that’s the thing that I love about it. Yeah, yes sir.
Micah Johnson (35:03)
win-win man. Come on, that’s good. I appreciateyou sharing that. For those listening and watching, check our show notes. We’re going to have all Caleb’s social media links there. Like I always say, when you, when we bring a professional on that’s truly good at what they do, check them out, follow along with them. There’s a reason we find high quality people and bring them on the show. It’s the story we’re trying to share the real side of real estate, the everyday day in day out. Can it be this glorious life?
Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (35:09)
youMicah Johnson (35:32)
100%, but that is built by getting the little things done each day. So Caleb, thanks again for being with us, man. Enjoyed our time. Thanks everybody for watching, following along with us here. You got value out of today’s episode. Please like this episode, share it with someone else you think could get value out of it. As always, please don’t forget to subscribe. We appreciate every single one of you that follows along with us out there. We’ve got more conversations coming up with operators, just like Caleb out there building a real business in the industry.Caleb Keys – CEO_Keys (35:38)
Thanks.Thanks.
Micah Johnson (36:02)
Thanks again for joining us. We’ll see y’all in the next episode.
