From W-2 to 216 Multifamily Units | How Marianna Rebelo Built a Real Estate Syndication Business

Marianna Rebelo (00:00)
Sometimes you’re right. I have to stop because we tell people always forward, ever forward. That’s why we got the name of our company. But once in a while, stop, turn around, and look at where you’ve come from. And when you can stop for a moment and say, Wow, I’ve come that far in this period of time, then make sure you turn face forward, keep moving forward.

Don’t spend time dwelling on either the good or bad.

Joseph Crooms (01:54)
Hey everyone. Welcome to Investor Fuel Real Estate Pros Podcast. I’m your host, Joseph Crooms. And today I’m joined by someone I’ve been looking forward to chatting with. Her name is Marianna Rebelo And she is here today making some serious moves.

I’m gonna let her talk exactly what she does, so I’m not gonna give it away. but Marianna, say hello to everyone.

Marianna Rebelo (02:20)
Hey everybody, glad to be here. Super excited to be on this show. Super excited to be talking to Joseph. looking forward to a great podcast.

Joseph Crooms (02:28)
Well, I thank you for the plug, but the real excitement is you. So let me let’s get right into it. So Marianna, what is your give us the short version and of your business. Tell us what it is, who it is, what market you’re you’re operating in. It’s not there.

Marianna Rebelo (02:45)
Okay. So the name of the company is Ever Forward Capital Partners. It was founded out of a need to want to educate investors, founded from a need to share with other people my frustration as a high earning W-2 earner and to share with other Main Street people, middle America, that there are better ways to invest. we started this company, my son and I, I’m a single mom. my son and I, Michael is 20. We work shoulder to shoulder every day.

And we started this a little over two years ago when I was still in my W-2 and super, super frustrated that I was looking at my retirement. And I was literally thinking, I don’t know if I can retire. When and if I can, when? And will it be enough? And I sat down with Michael one day and we looked at investments. We talked about my 401k. I opened up completely to my son because I didn’t want him to follow the same path that I followed, which was the same path my parents followed.

the path that cost my parents $80,000 right as my dad was retiring during that disaster of 2008. I didn’t want to go down that path. I didn’t want my son to go down the same path. So we’re looking at all different types of investments, crypto, gold, everything out there. It all came back to the same thing, real estate. And very long story short, it turned into real estate syndication of investing in apartment complexes.

And really, really doubling down and digging in. We don’t do student housing. I don’t do retired assisted living yet. definitely is something I believe is going to be in my future, just because I have a passion for our seniors. but we’re very, very focused on multifamily, very focused on 80 units and above, very focused on being pragmatic. my son will affectionately call me the queen of no, because most deals come to me to die, but if they get past me.

I look at them from the same lens that I would want my investors to look at and to feel the same for those that are feeling the same way that I did three years ago, feeling helpless and not knowing where else to go. So it was founded out of a desire to not only build myself a a legacy for my son, but also to get out there and say, my God, my friends and family and neighbors and everybody needs to know about this. And if they don’t, I’m going to teach them. Joseph, whether they invest with me or don’t invest with me.

I would love for them to invest with me, but even if they don’t, they’ve learned that there’s another opportunity out there. So hopefully that answered the question for you.

Joseph Crooms (05:02)
Sure, sure. Brianna, let me ask you this. When did you know, because it’s two years in, let’s talk about that first year. When did you know we can do this?

Marianna Rebelo (05:12)
I would say about two months after I started to learn. I went through a coaching program. There are several out there. and you know, I’m gonna be very transparent. A lot of people go into these coaching programs for a weekend, they get excited, they are they’re thinking I’m gonna quit my job tomorrow. I’m gonna be a multimillionaire in six months. You know, I’m at these massive fees and massive amounts of money.

Michael and I very quickly realized there’s a lot of money to be made for ourselves and for our investors, but it’s going to take a lot of work. I would say it was gonna take about two months for us to really figure out. there’s a great opportunity here, but there’s also a lot of work. so I’d say about two months into learning, did we find that out? And we realized that just like going to school, the teacher only has you for.

45 minutes to an hour, or your professor has you 45 minutes to an hour, but the rest of the work is you. So if you’re going into it to become a general partner, you have a lot of work to learn. If you’re going in as an LP, you want to partner with somebody that’s skinned their knees, somebody who’s really done the learning. So I’d say about two months in is when Michael and I realize this is the real deal for us. This is what we’re going to learn. and this is the path that we have that we have to take to make it successful.

Joseph Crooms (06:25)
We’ll get into that a little more. what is your volume or book of business that you’re at now and you say, okay, we’re set. We can, we can really and and how did you find your niche?

Marianna Rebelo (06:37)
Okay. So we are at 216 units right now. and the way we found our niche is super unusual. I was definitely asset management. That was everything that I felt was going to be my strength because coming out of a background of 20 years in inventory, logistics, and healthcare, numbers are my thing on spreadsheets, seeing how much we are spending, how much are we making, and really seeing where we can improve a process.

That to me is asset management. I could see it. I could see myself walking property saying, you know, why is this railing loose? Why is this, you know, this is a tripping hazard, seeing the things that people may not know or look at, and then looking at how can we optimize the business to get it to perform even better. So that was asset management for me. For Michael, it was acquisitions, talking to brokers, finding the deals, et cetera. And then quite literally, we became capital raisers almost overnight.

And as my son calls it, it’s not raising capital, it’s raising awareness. So I want to clarify that. What happened was we were introduced to a team that I had known quite for quite some time. I had actually taken an asset management course with one of the GPs that I respect a great deal. And they came to us with an opportunity. And I thought, I’m not liquid right at the moment, but I would love to tell other people about this. That’s how much I believed in the deal.

and long story short, Michael and I raised quite a bit of capital for that. Super excited. And people were saying, you know what? You’re capital raisers. I’m like, no, no, no, I’m an asset manager. That’s my goal. That’s what we do. And sure enough, deal number two came around. Same way. great opportunity, great team, great numbers, great projections, great everything. And I thought, geez, I’d like to raise capital for this because this is again another opportunity.

Literally, if you were if you walked into the bank and your bank, Joseph said, we are offering a 12% CD to all of our customers that sign up within the next month, you would feel obligated to tell people in your circle of influence. Now, I’m not saying that real estate’s a guaranteed investment, but what I’m saying is that when you see something that’s good, that really has a great opportunity, you would tell other people. If you saw an amazing stock.

again, it even stocks have risks. We know that. But if you saw an amazing stock, you would tell your friends about it. Same thing that Michael and I felt. So we joined with two teams and we raised capital. Again, like Michael says, it’s not raising capital, it’s raising awareness. When you explain to prospective investors really what the numbers are, really telling them what the pitfalls are, really telling them and teaching them so that they understand better. The example I give is.

If you go the doctor and you’re diagnosed with Larisia syndrome, you you’d panic. my gosh, that’s a terrible thing. But if I told you, Joseph, that means your your your your butt went numb. That’s literally what it beats. All of a sudden the fear is gone. So a lot of main street people out there today, middle America, are afraid of it because they don’t know any, they don’t know enough about it. And that’s what we want to do. So we are capital raisers. We partner with other people. where do I find that we will get to the point where I say, okay.

We’re good. We can coast now. I don’t think I’m ever gonna find that. Because again, the goal is not just to make money, the goal is to continue to educate. I may die on that hill, but at least other people will know what this is all about and have an opportunity.

Joseph Crooms (10:45)
Marianna where is most of your property at?

Marianna Rebelo (10:49)
Is it right it’s in Tyler, Texas, and in Tulsa, Oklahoma, heavier in Tyler than Oklahoma. But those are the two areas we’re in right now. Again, we’re look we are working on a closing a property right now in Arizona and hopefully closing some properties in Houston. But and once those happen, then the whole thing is gonna flip. And I’m gonna say the biggest amount is Houston.

Joseph Crooms (11:11)
Why Houston and why Oklahoma?

Marianna Rebelo (11:14)
Okay. So for Oklahoma, it was just middle America. Lots of opportunity for growth as far as work is concerned. The two things that I like to see at the top of the list are education and healthcare or medical. I don’t like to see any one big thing like a military base. military if that’s the biggest employer in a town or if a manufacturer is the biggest in town, that makes me.

Super, super nervous. I know a lot of operators sell that idea. I I just I’m afraid because once those close, I lived in Massachusetts and Quaker Fabrics in Fall River, Massachusetts closed and it was devastating to the area. For those of you in Massachusetts, you understand what I’m talking about. So if a hell in that particular area, lots of medical, lots of education.

Real good grounded area. It’s also outside of a nice residential neighborhood. It happens to be an apartment complex that sits right outside of a nice neighborhood, really nice neighborhood. So it gave families an opportunity to be able to live in a suburb outside of Tulsa or within the Tulsa, I guess, city limits, without feeling like they were in the city, but yet close enough to the highway to be able to get to and from work. And as far as Houston is concerned,

Houston has always been really an up and down roller coaster. You know, when it’s high and hot, it’s high and hot. When it’s down, it’s brutal. but there’s one thing that Houston will always need, and that is good workforce housing. somebody actually said something to me that was really profound. the types of properties we’re looking at in Houston right now will be very transparent, are not the B class that we usually look for. This is more like a C class neighborhood. Actually, it’s a

B type neighborhood, but it’s like a C C minus property. So it has potential. But somebody said something to me that really hit a nerve. And they said, Marianna, even people who don’t make a lot of money deserve a good place to live. And that hit hard for me because I’m the type of person that I will do whatever I can to not just take care of my family, but I need to be able to walk with my head held high and look at tenants and know that we’re doing the best we can for them because they deserve it.

because I know what it’s like to be a struggling single mom. I know how much that hurts and not to ask anybody for help and do it all by myself. So there’s a lot of hardworking people out there that deserve a good place to live. So Houston just struck a nerve for me. these properties just happen to be a little bit on the rougher side, but they’re in really nice neighborhoods. Again, it’s still a work in progress. We still have to see if it’s going to fly or not, but that’s why I chose Houston. again, not one of the my first buy boxes, but it was just a a

A decent operator, good properties, just needs some love. And I think I have the ability to do that because I did it before in my previous job. I took insurmountable odds where they said, I don’t think you could pull that off. The team’s not big enough. And I said, Hold my water. Let me show you how this is done. a six month project needs to launch in three months. Yeah, I can do that. So hopefully that answered that.

Joseph Crooms (14:13)
Yeah, sure. Michael’s your son’s name, am I correct?

Marianna Rebelo (14:15)
Correct.

Joseph Crooms (14:16)
Okay, so what has been the key to you and Michael’s business running smoothly?

Marianna Rebelo (14:22)
This is going to sound strange, but it started probably when he was eight or nine. Michael and I started playing video games together. I have this is a pretty popular question. How do we manage every single day? So when Michael was real little, he did not have access to any social media whatsoever. He didn’t have a phone, he didn’t, he had a tablet, but it wasn’t really connected to the internet. And one day he just wanted to play Jurassic Park. And I played for a little while with him.

And then next thing you knew it, he wants to play Transformers Earth Wars. so those of you who are Transformers, you know, Optimus Prime, you know, Alita, Alita One, et cetera. There you go, you know. I’m definitely on the spot, not the Decepticon side. But anyway, I I love you guys anyway. He started to play that, and I realized there was open chat rooms in there. So I said, Okay, mom’s gonna play this game also because I want to make sure if my son’s in chat rooms, I want to make sure I’m in those chat rooms.

Nobody knew that I was mom, but we played. But what happened was him and I started to grow in the game and have a lot of fun. But I utilized that video game and I highly encourage parents to do this. You know, your kids shouldn’t be just playing a video game all by themselves in another room. You know what? Maybe it’s tough, but for you to learn those controllers, figure it out. You know, if you can figure out how to drive a car, figure out how to use controllers, even if it’s a basic game, but it gives you common language with your child.

So I explained to Michael one day, we were actually having a conversation about how the devil will come after you as you grow in your success. And I hopefully I’m not overstepping by talking about religion here a little bit. But I was explaining to him when you’re in HQ 10, when you’re headquartered at level 10 and you take out a level four, there’s no excitement to that. But if you’re in HQ 10 and you take out an HQ 16, you’re super excited. I said, Well, the devil’s the same way.

He’s not going after if he’s HQ 10, he’s not going after HQ four. He’s going after HQ 10, so or HQ 16. So as you grow, I would use those the video game to give him more and more analogies. And sometimes we’ll even reference that now with properties where we’ll talk about that base was totally destroyed. Goes way back into his childhood, but it was that first ability for him and I to be able to communicate well. I was using his language.

So now what him and I do is he feeds off my strengths, I feed off his strengths. His strengths as deaf are are gonna be social media. No question about it. His strengths are gonna be more along the lines of technology, even though he’s all self-taught. This young man was not, hasn’t been on social media prior to three years ago. Didn’t have a Facebook account, didn’t have a TikTok account, Twitter, had none of that. I was a pretty stern mom. This is all new to him.

But yet he’s adapted and learned it. He became the face of Everford Capital Partners. Cause when I was working with my W 2, I knew I couldn’t. And I literally looked at him and I said, This is you. You have to be the face of Everford Capital Partners. So I lean on that strength. He leans on my organizational strength and he leans on my ability to stay uber calm when things really start falling apart. in a crisis, I’m your girl.

I’ll fall apart later, but if it’s really hitting the fan, whether it’s personally, mo emotionally, professionally, on a property, at my W two, he sees me very calm, taking pieces apart, figuring out how to do that. That’s not really Michael’s strength. So Michael leans on me. So we actually feed off of each other.

Joseph Crooms (18:25)
So let me ask you this. You know, there’s there’s always a time when things don’t always go the way you plan. Do you mind sharing with us a time when Michael may have got frazzled, but you had to take things apart and get it back online?

Marianna Rebelo (18:42)
100%. So actually, and it happened not that long ago, you know, where he stopped and he said, everyone, so anybody that tells you they don’t have discouragement, I think would lie about other things too. I really believe that. As optimistic as I am, as optimistic as Michael, and as upbeat as we are, we both have our moments. But he had a moment not that long ago where he’s doing podcasts and interviewing guests, and then he just looked at me and goes,

What am I gaining from this? Like, am I gaining any traction from this? You know, it’s a lot of work to schedule these. It’s a lot of work to do the post-production. Is it helping our investor base? Are people learning from what I’m doing? You know, I don’t see you know, I’m not growing exponentially with the hundreds of viewers and followers, et cetera. He goes, Is it really worth it? And he was, I can’t really say down in the dumps, but he was, he was down in the dumps.

And I looked at him and I said, you know what, Michael? I said, here’s a hard truth for you. I said, you may not see a lot of subscribers. You may not see a lot of likes and thumbs up. I said, but people like me, very pragmatic, Gen X, have some money to invest. We’re watching in the wings. And I said, I’m going to tell you why. I said, I’m afraid to hit like sometimes on someone’s post. God’s honest truth, because sometimes I’ll hit like because you know what?

Dude, man, you got great content. You know, Tom, this is a great video. I just want to say, nice job on that. And then sure enough, here comes the vampires into my text. Hey, thank you so much for liking my video. I really appreciate it. What did you like about my video? I get it. I know that we’re all starting to head towards AI doing all the work for us, but I can’t even say click like or love on a video without a lot of people just coming in from all different directions. Can’t I just say?

I liked your video. I place a comment. I say, you know, hey, 100%. I totally agree with what you’re saying about the market. I’ve seen this, this, this, and this. The next thing you know, here is somebody, either a VA or an AI coming in and just loading up my. So now I don’t do it anymore. I don’t hit like. I don’t hit subscribe. I don’t hit I don’t put comments because I just simply don’t have the time to answer everything. I said, Michael, you have a certain group of people that are watching.

I said, look at your view count. I said, you know, when I first started doing TikTok, let’s see, I left my job, my W-2 in March, April, May, June, July. So like four months ago, you know, I had like 10 people looking at my video. But I didn’t worry. Now it’s up to, you know, anywhere between two and 300 per day looking at a video that I post. But what really is catching my attention is the number of people that are looking at my bio.

Because it shows. And I have anywhere from 10 to 12 people per day looking at my bio. And these are people that I tell Michael, these are the quiet people that are watching you in the wings and appreciate what you’re doing. So for me, watching Michael start to become frazzled and say, you know, is it all worth it? Is just to calmly step back, look at the facts, look at where you are now, and look at where you were.

Three years ago. We literally had a conversation this morning. He said to me, You know what, mom? He said I was, I became overwhelmed in the shower yesterday morning because I had just wanted to be able to have an opportunity to interview some big names and have some really, you know, important people on my podcast, but I didn’t have any traction. And I was always thinking, you know, am I ever going to get there? And he said, and just realized just yesterday morning, I’ve interviewed Adam Tagger, Robert Kiyosaki, Russell Gray.

Rise 48, he says all of a sudden all these big names are coming to my podcast. And he said, Sometimes you’re right. I have to stop because we tell people always forward, ever forward. That’s why we got the name of our company. But once in a while, stop, turn around, and look at where you’ve come from. And when you can stop for a moment and say, Wow, I’ve come that far in this period of time, then make sure you turn face forward, keep moving forward.

Don’t spend time dwelling on either the good or bad. So I would say for Michael, it’s just to simply break it down and take him out of the environment. I recommend that to any of your listeners. If you’re in the heat of it at your desk, at a conference, in a meeting, get up, walk out of the room just for a minute. Excuse yourself and say, Hey, I just got to step out for a minute. That’s literally what him and I did at a conference at Limitless. We just, I said, you know what? Let’s get outside. Let’s take a quick walk. By the time we came back.

He and I were energized. So do all of your listeners out there, don’t be afraid to step away. Sometimes that’s what listen, Jesus went to the garden to pray by himself. So who am I that I don’t do the same? So sometimes you just gotta step away from it and just, you know, get into your own head for a minute and just, I got this.

Joseph Crooms (23:25)
Thank you for saying that, Marianna. So that’s the kind of stuff people don’t talk about enough. And honestly, what separates the folks from just dabbling from the ones who stay in the game for long term. Let me ask you this. What are you most focused on scaling next? And what’s your next real goal?

Marianna Rebelo (23:43)
my next big goal is to automate my systems as much as humanly possible. I am going to, without a doubt, scale my business through AI. I know there are a lot of people that have already created systems out there. I get it. I’m I’m Uber excited. Capitalist Pro has done an amazing job for me. They’re my CRM company. They’ve done an amazing job kind of doing a plug and play for me. And I’ve been

kind of riding that roller coaster of plug and play, but probably about a month ago I thought

I gotta dial this in more. I really have to dial this in more. I have to know and truly understand what investor engagement means. Because one of the things that we ran into when we were looking at our CRM, we have some people that have got super high scores, but then I realized the reason they have super high scores is they had discovery calls, and those discovery calls were to be on Michael’s podcast. So now it’s actually deciphering what in my CRM is real.

And now starting to label it student, potential investor, podcaster, broker, insurance, tax man, break it down that way. And I could tell somebody, Joseph, to do that for me, but they don’t know who these people are. I can’t assign this task to somebody because it’s going to be, well, who’s Tom? Excuse me, who’s John? Who’s this person? How do you know this person? Are they a student? Are they?

Well, they’re a student and a loan broker. Well, they’re mortgage broker and a real estate. I need to go in and one by one by one, I have to do this. So the first thing that I’m looking to scale is my CRM. Because Michael and I are really good at getting people into the CRM. The CRM to me is the the furnace, if you will. And then all of my pipelines, the workflows, if you can imagine, is the ductwork. And then

It doesn’t work if you don’t have ductwork. You’re only going to get heat right there in the furnace. But if you want to warm up whatever, your your brokers, your realtors, your whatever. And then Michael and I happen to be very, very good at putting the wood, gathering the wood and putting it in the furnace. So to scale our CRM and our AI is definitely going to be the next is my step. That’s currently what I’m working on right now. in fact, I was thinking about literally going.

To hotel for a week. him and I and my mom, my 84-year-old mom, my beautiful queen, goes with us, but to go to a hotel for a week just to drill down and work on this with no distractions. But that for me is going to be huge. that’s been a pain point of mine for a while. I got a great CRM. It’s just like having an amazing sports car, but I don’t know how drive it. I am ready to drop this puppy into fifth and just see how much rubber I can leave on the road behind me. And I’m going to maybe do a little drifting around the corner there.

Maybe a little fish tailing, but let’s see how this sucker’s gonna handle going around a U t a hor a hairpin turn, which I like to drive.

Joseph Crooms (26:37)
Okay, all right, I see you driving now. Marianna, I know a a lot of people listening are early in their journey and are looking to level up. I think they’ll benefit from this from hearing this. When it comes to building relationships, and you sort of dovetailed into it a little bit, and growing your network, what’s made the biggest difference for you?

Marianna Rebelo (27:02)
The 90 10 rule. No hesitation. Let me explain what that means. If we have somebody that’s local that I’m interested in, that is interested in investing with our company. the first thing I like to do, and and I know not everybody can do this, but you can tailor it to however you want to do it. We actually invite them for lunch. And that started purely accidentally, actually with Ray Hightower. He’s one of the Warriors. Wanted to get to know him. I was new to Arizona. I didn’t know the restaurants. And Michael turned to me, he goes, Mom, he goes, Ray is scheduled for

We’re supposed to meet him for lunch tomorrow. And I said, Michael, I don’t know where any of the restaurants are. I don’t know what to tell. I said, you what? Just invite him here. We have to eat lunch anyway. Just bring him to the house. Okay. And we literally had linguini with clam sauce. My mom, my beautiful queen, made linguini with clam sauce, nothing fancy. And it was an amazing opportunity. And it was like God stepped in and said, This is your superpower. We spent the first 90% of the time that we were together at the table.

Talking about anything other than business. The last 10% was business. So very important. Now we adopted that to be the way we talk to our investors. The investors that have sat at our table, or if you’ve met at the diner, one of them we met at a diner, the first time we spoke, 90% of what we talked about had nothing to do with business. I wanted to know about him or her, about their life.

About their husband, their wife, where they’re from, their kids. I want to know you as a person. I want to know that I want to work with you for the next four, five, six years. I want them to know that they want to work with me. And then the last 10 minutes or 10 side, 10% again, is we touch on business. The next time we get together, it’s reversed. It is 10% about them, 90% about business, about the opportunity we’re working on, the deal we’re and the second time, by the way, it could be virtual, could be online.

Could be on a phone call, could be over a cup of coffee. but that’s important to me because sometimes that first meeting is the last.

I’ve met investors where I don’t we don’t click. So those of you who are out there, don’t be starving to get every single investor out there. There are going to be times where you just don’t click with this investor. one of the biggest investors we walked away from was a $500,000 investor. Just we did not click. And I knew I could not do this with you for the next five years. it’s a tough thing to do to be able to tell investors, you know what? I don’t think this is an opportunity for you. I don’t think this is a good working relationship for both of us.

I’ll keep you in mind if we see something that I think might be a better fit for you, we’ll certainly let you know. Something changes in you when you’re able to say that. But during that first 90% of that time of building that relationship, ladies and gentlemen, get to know your investor. Get to know your general partners. Get to know the people that’s doing that are doing your acquisitions, your underwriting, your capital raising.

Get to know these people on a personal level. See how they treat other people. This is uber important to me. This is something I’ve taught Michael since he could understand words. Never, ever, ever ignore the invisible people. Who do I mean by the invisible people? You’re walking down the hall in a hallway in a hotel. That person that’s got their head down doing something, cleaning, etc., to them, they’re invisible. Nobody sees them. I see them. My son sees them. My son will walk past them and say good morning. And if they don’t say good morning, he will actually back up.

And say to them good morning to make sure they understand he’s talking to them. Now I say that because if we’re in a restaurant and this perspective, GP doesn’t treat that waiter or waitress well, we’re not doing business. We’re just not. Because I don’t, I want to know what you’re gonna do when I’m not around. I want to know how you’re gonna treat our investors when I’m not around. I want to know how you’re gonna talk to the property manager when I’m not around or the maintenance department when I’m not around.

Those are all clues. So for all of the listeners out there that want to start building relationships. And if you’re shy, that’s okay. Start tagging with people that aren’t. Say, hey, can I, you know what? I I’m used to being in the shadows. Do you mind if I tag along with you as you move around? And start learning from them. And for heaven’s sakes, for heaven’s sakes, go read the book, How to Win Friends and Influence Others. If you read it already, go read it again.

I’m serious. Go do that. Especially in today’s artificial world. That book means more now than ever before. People are starving for genuine human connection. Get out there and connect with them. It will mean the world to them and it’ll make you feel even better.

Joseph Crooms (31:19)
Marianna, I am speechless. that was tremendous. Can’t

Marianna Rebelo (31:24)
Thank you.

Joseph Crooms (31:25)
fake that. Relationships are everything, pure relationships. are in this space mean a lot. All right, before we wrap up, if someone wanted to reach out, connect with you, Michael’s information, collaborate, learn more about how to get in touch with you guys, talk about the podcast as well, use this platform to advertise everything that you need. So

Marianna Rebelo (31:48)
Give it to us. You can find us at EverForwardCapitalPartners.com I know it’s a mouthful, but on there it will give you access to if you need to have a if you want to have a meeting with myself, do you want to have a meeting with Michael? You can schedule on there. There’s also a place where you can get our free book. we’re also about free education. I’m sure eventually there’ll be a time where we have to separate the education, but right now we’re offering our free book. It’s a 58-page

investor book, I guess you would call it, but it’s a little bit about my life, how I got into the business, how Michael got into the business. But it’s a lot of education talked about ARR, IRR, cash on cash. A lot of the words that sound Greek that you maybe people don’t want to ask or they feel uncomfortable asking or they just don’t know if the information they’re getting online is accurate. Grab our book. Like I said, it’s free. It’s 58 page PDF that you can download. There’s also places we have articles on there, but it’s everforwardcapitalpartners.com.

com is where you can find just about all the information about us that you’re looking for, including Michael’s podcast of the Ever Forward Mindset.

Joseph Crooms (32:48)
Thank you. that was tremendous.

Marianna Rebelo (32:51)
Thank you.

Joseph Crooms (32:52)
Marianna, I appreciate your time. your story. Tell Michael I said hello. And I already feel like I know him. So we need more people in spaces who are doing it the right way. Thanks again for being here, Marianna.

Marianna Rebelo (33:07)
Joseph, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. And I wish all of your I wish all of your listeners the best in the world. As my son would say, build yourself better and bigger every day. Live better, live bigger every day. And God bless all of you. Thank you so much for having us on the show.

Joseph Crooms (33:19)
Well, for those of tuning in, I know you got some value from this. And and I really hope that you would subscribe one to the things that Marianna poured into you. And but make sure you also subscribe to this channel as well. We got more conversations coming from operators just like Marianna, who are out there building real businesses, helping real people and communities. we’ll see you at the next episode of Investor Fuel

Real Estate Pros Podcast. And Marianna Tell everybody we’ll see them soon.

Marianna Rebelo (33:54)
looking forward to it. Hey, have a great day, everybody. Thanks, Joseph, for having me on. I appreciate it. God bless all of you. Let’s build bigger and better.